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Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC)
#14048931 - 03/01/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://hometownsource.com/2011/02/28/klobuchar-9-other-senators-introduce-legislation-to-ban-sale-of-synthetic-drugs/
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Klobuchar, 9 other senators introduce legislation to ban sale of synthetic drugs
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar and nine other senators – including Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) – introduced bipartisan legislation that would ban the sale of harmful synthetic drugs that are being sold and marketed as “bath salts.”
The bill would add two chemical substances, methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) and mephedrone, to Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act and prevent them from being sold to consumers. The chemicals can have a similar effect on the body as cocaine and methamphetamines and have been used as ingredients in certain bath salts that have been sold online and in convenience stores.
“The synthetic drugs in these bath salts pose a serious risk, especially since they can be easily purchased online and at stores around the country,” Klobuchar said. “When misused, these chemicals can have dangerous effects and it’s important we take action to remove these substances from products that are accessible to consumers.”
The dangerous ingredients in the salts, MDPV and mephedrone, can be snorted, smoked, and injected to receive a dangerous high.
According to reports, calls to poison centers across the nation have skyrocketed in recent weeks as the drug has grown in popularity. Many of the products, sold under names such as Cloud Nine, Ivory Wave and Blue Silk, contain MDPV, which is not approved for medical use in the United States.
Klobuchar is a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism, which has jurisdiction over issues relating to drug control policy, and she has been a leader in strengthening drug safety standards to protect consumers.
Last year, Klobuchar introduced the Secure and Responsible Drug Disposal Act of 2010 with Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) to provide patients with safe and responsible ways to dispose of unused controlled substances. The legislation, which was signed into law in October 2010, helps reduce the risk that teenagers will gain access to expired or unwanted prescription drugs in homes by permitting individuals and long-term care facilities to deliver unused drugs for safe disposal.
Can't wait to see what the cost of a Kg of peevee is about to drop to.
I bet you'll be seeing $5 grams of drone hitting the streets within a month. 
Thanks, jerks! 
Seriously, though... the DEA is either making a huge mistake, or a calculated move, to improve the black market. Why? Because this crap is probably WAY easier to synth than most of the drugs they're already fighting. 4-mmc is, at least.
I've only seen one MDPV synth online. Not sure how easy that could be done kitchen-style. (But I'm all ears, if anyone knows. j/k)
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: CidneyIndole]
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is mephedrone still legal in america?
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: ukshroomer]
#14049490 - 03/01/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ukshroomer said: is mephedrone still legal in america?
yup. and sold in head shops and gas stations in almost every state. America is still surfin the ivory wave.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: ShroomDoom]
#14049513 - 03/01/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomdoom I remember you as a mescaline poster (your avatar, sig and name are etched in my memory now).
Have you used Mephedrone? Do you use non-natural substances?
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: Humility]
#14049579 - 03/01/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Humility said: Shroomdoom I remember you as a mescaline poster (your avatar, sig and name are etched in my memory now).
Have you used Mephedrone? Do you use non-natural substances?
I don't use mephedrone or any Rcs.
I will take acid once in a blue moon but thats at fests and such in the summer.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: ShroomDoom]
#14049655 - 03/01/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright m8, sorry to sound so but I've seen you make posts before and it didn't sound like you were that "experimental" in your drug usage, you always seemed more like a spiritual/entheogenic user than anything.
I was curious so I asked. Thanks for answering brah.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: Humility]
#14049785 - 03/01/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah, this stuff has been a huge US business for a while.
Technically 4-MMC has been prosecutable all along (before I get protests, yes there have been at least 1 or 2 4-mmc charges... specifically, I believe "imitation controlled substance.")
Most people ignore this, though, and you can still buy a gram online with a credit card and have it mailed right to your door.
On the other hand, MDPV was previously only analogous to the shedule V Pyrovalerone, so that one was very legal and easy to get.
I think this one is going to get much bigger before they legislate it, and MDPV will (with mephedrone) eventually end up on the black market. Those with capital and no scruples would do well to start sourcing now. It is the most addictive substance I've ever seen.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: Humility]
#14049798 - 03/01/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Humility said: Alright m8, sorry to sound so but I've seen you make posts before and it didn't sound like you were that "experimental" in your drug usage, you always seemed more like a spiritual/entheogenic user than anything.
I was curious so I asked. Thanks for answering brah.
I've greatly enjoyed his mescaline posts as well. Always very intriguing and informative.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: CidneyIndole]
#14050093 - 03/01/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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CidneyIndole said: yeah, this stuff has been a huge US business for a while.
Technically 4-MMC has been prosecutable all along (before I get protests, yes there have been at least 1 or 2 4-mmc charges... specifically, I believe "imitation controlled substance.")
Most people ignore this, though, and you can still buy a gram online with a credit card and have it mailed right to your door.
On the other hand, MDPV was previously only analogous to the shedule V Pyrovalerone, so that one was very legal and easy to get.
I think this one is going to get much bigger before they legislate it, and MDPV will (with mephedrone) eventually end up on the black market. Those with capital and no scruples would do well to start sourcing now. It is the most addictive substance I've ever seen.
mdpv can be considered an analog of the various methylenedioxy phenethylamines.
I really hope the people selling this shit get fucked in the ass. I believe anyone should be able to get drugs (at a certain age) but they should be made FULLY AWARE of what they are getting and understand all risks instead of "THIS SHIT WILL FUCK YOU UP MANG"
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: bbl337]
#14050256 - 03/01/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I remember reading someone post that it might get vague consideration for having an "MDMA skeleton" (i believe this is the phrase they used) but that it is a bit of a stretch to make.
(Not so clear as, for example, comparing 4-mmc to methcathinone)
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: CidneyIndole]
#14050428 - 03/01/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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FUCKING AWFUL NEWS
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: Society]
#14050484 - 03/01/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm glad methylone is also not targeted. Methylone is way better IMO.
Also note that jdub250 escaped the cannabiniod ban. The best in each class remain legal?
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: AnastomosisJihad]
#14050684 - 03/01/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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as long as they don't touch the trypts, I can live!
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: McTwist]
#14050880 - 03/01/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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McTwist said: =[
as long as they don't touch the trypts, I can live!
My primary concern is that in some markets, 4-mmc and mdpv are being sold right along side drugs like 2c-i.
So if there are investigations of vendors that carry both...
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: McTwist]
#14051280 - 03/01/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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McTwist said: =[
as long as they don't touch the trypts, I can live!
Fuck that.
I refuse to live at complacent ease in a society that defers individuals the freedom of choice and reign over their own body. I live to fight against the War on Drugs and the prohibition of any substance- be it LSD, meth, or nicotine.
I encourage everyone shed his or her cultural prejudices about substances, whether synthetics or non-psychedelic drugs, and the join the fucking resistance.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: Society]
#14052547 - 03/02/11 01:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't see this bill having much steam. Otherwise the mainstream media would be talking about it more. The DEA is perfectly capable of making up the law as it goes along without help from congress. They just banned a bunch of cannabanoids why not these? Thank God Methylone isn't in there, I want to try that like a mofo.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: CidneyIndole]
#14878482 - 08/05/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Does anyone know if mdvp has any actual use as a bath salt? good for your skin etc...?
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#14878567 - 08/05/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good question.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: AnastomosisJihad]
#14878907 - 08/05/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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AnastomosisJihad said: I'm glad methylone is also not targeted. Methylone is way better IMO.
the senate bill does exclude bk-MDMA.. but not the house bill (HR-1254)...the final bill that passes will no doubt include all the drugs named in all 4 bills.. plus a few others...
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Also note that jdub250 escaped the cannabiniod ban. The best in each class remain legal?
wrong-o bucko...the bill does not specifically name jwh-250.. but rather bans all the cannabinoids based on the broad structure of the drug..as is done with indoles in the UK...
its also worth pointing out that the DEA has the power to ban any of these drugs at the drop of a hat.. but not even they saw fit to do so...congress is acting at the behest of private for-profit prisons that are losing their drug offenders market to legal drugs...
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#14880821 - 08/06/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sulfurshelfsean said: Does anyone know if mdvp has any actual use as a bath salt? good for your skin etc...?
If you get a good dab of MDPV wet and apply it to, say for example, leather, it will eat through the leather like an acid.
I've seen it happen.
So yeah... pretty funny that it's sold as "bath salts."
Maybe for exfoliation-type-action. Y'know...getting rid of some of the dead skin. lol
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: CidneyIndole]
#14881205 - 08/06/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Had a dose of mephedrone last night. Such a clean, perfect mind and body feeling.
I am already missing this one.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: CidneyIndole]
#14932577 - 08/16/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, I was just wondering where the hell they got the idea to market it as such.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#14958377 - 08/21/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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For those who are interested, here is the bill: H.R. 1254: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 S. 839: Combating Designer Drugs Act of 2011
Here is the bill enacted previously, also mentioned in the article: S. 3397: Secure and Responsible Drug Disposal Act of 2010
Articles that mention legislation being introduced, without linking to it or at the very least mentioning the name/number of the bill, are next to worthless IMO. Such poor reporting, and just as bad as popular science articles that don't reference the newly published whitepaper whose research the article is based on!
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: Society] 1
#14960996 - 08/22/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Society said:
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McTwist said: =[
as long as they don't touch the trypts, I can live!
Fuck that.
I refuse to live at complacent ease in a society that defers individuals the freedom of choice and reign over their own body. I live to fight against the War on Drugs and the prohibition of any substance- be it LSD, meth, or nicotine.
I encourage everyone shed his or her cultural prejudices about substances, whether synthetics or non-psychedelic drugs, and the join the fucking resistance.
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: dshow]
#15043462 - 09/07/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now it's official.
"DEA Moves to Emergency Control Synthetic Stimulants...Except as authorized by law, this action will make possessing and selling these chemicals or the products that contain them illegal in the U.S. for at least one year while the DEA and the United States Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) further study whether these chemicals should be permanently controlled."
http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr090711.html
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Re: Possible U.S. FEDERAL BAN of MDPV and Mephedrone (4-MMC) [Re: Man De Novo]
#15045718 - 09/07/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuck.
Thanks for post.
Guess we have "30 days or more."
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