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Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck.
    #14048607 - 03/01/11 01:46 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

For some reason they never seemed possible to me.  To be totally honest I was always a little curious about them.  Maybe that's why I went ahead anyway today when I really couldn't tell myself WHY i was eating these mushrooms.  Something just felt off about it today but I decided that I would press on.

What a big mistake that proved to be.  It's like being chewed up and spit out by your own brain.  Like a computer anti-virus scan being performed where you fail every fucking check.  Processed.  Rejected.  Reduced to nothing, laying on your side with snot in your nose and tears in your eyes on a nice day.

What a horrible feeling.  Everything feels wrong.  Even when you're able to pause and enjoy the trip for a moment that only makes you feel crazy because just a second ago you were all upset.  What are the chances my ex-girlfriend would text to reminisce on old times, mention that she wonders if she'll ever be truly over me, etc at that moment. 

I genuinely like myself.  I am generally well liked by others.  I've got my share of things to sort out in life, as most 23 year olds probably do.  Still, what a shock it is when the mushrooms turn your own brain against you.

In the time it took me to write this out I can already feel myself and my positive side coming back.  I can almost brush it off already.  However, I'm still a little shaken. 

It is absolutely humbling to realize the awesome power that my own mind contains.  As shitty as that experience was that is still pretty incredible to really realize.


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- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #14048659 - 03/01/11 01:54 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Oh, it sucks.  It's like your own personal tour of hell that lasts forever.  That usually means its time to take a break or eat some cactus instead.


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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #14048696 - 03/01/11 02:02 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

I find it's very beneficial to delve into the negative side of things once in a while, it keeps you sharp and reminds you that trippin is not just sunshine and rainbows.

The negative should be thoroughly embraced just like the positive it is a part of the whole after all, all though it can be difficult at the time and feel like hell so I def feel for you OP, what helps for me(dunno if it will do anything for you) is to realize that it's just my ego classifying things into good and bad experiences, once you let go of that urge to classify then it  becomes just another experience. That is if you believe that sort of thing:cool:

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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #14048702 - 03/01/11 02:04 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

The way I approach these situations is to let go and just give up. That basically indicates my ego loss. After that happens my bad trip eventually mellows out into a positive spiritual experience.


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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: joemolloy]
    #14048740 - 03/01/11 02:10 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Thankfully the trip was a short one.  Didn't seem like it at the time but it was.  And the come down was very abrupt.  It very much felt like being chewed up and spit out and slobbering and fucked.

"Your own personal tour of hell" is very accurate though.  Every nuance of it is designed from the part of your brain that stores the "what-could've-beens".  I'm content in my life that's why that was very surprising.  I really think my ex-gf texting me is what sent me the wrong way.

I appreciate that outlook Kundalini.  When you're in it though I think it would be hard to keep that in mind.  Looking back on the experience now I really do appreciate it just as much if not more than any other trip I've had.  It feels somewhat more personal.  Like a stern talking to from your father when you're a little kid that's filled with lessons to carry with you your entire life.  I'm not hoping for another any time soon thats for damn sure.

It also has me thinking about the trip sitter aspect of it.  I love showing my friends the fun and beauty of psychedelics.  I consider myself a pretty awesome guide through the experience and luckily I've never had to deal with a really rough trip like I just had.  Man, would it be difficult to talk someone back from there though.  Glad I have this experience under my belt though for when that time comes. (If it must come at all.  I still blame myself for proceeding when I knew I shouldn't.  I do believe these things can be avoided with some simple precautionary measures.)

Live and learn.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #14048753 - 03/01/11 02:14 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Just be glad you didn't take a megadose, it would have been 1,000,000x worse.

Bad trips happen it's part of the game.

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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #14048783 - 03/01/11 02:20 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

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I can almost brush it off already.




If you want another even worse bad trip, then "brushing it off" is just the ticket.

Dont brush it off. You were shaken to the core of your being, or at least damn close to it.

You like yourself, but this time you failed the selflove/self acceptance test that every session poses.

Live closer to how you really feel you should live. Reach within and accept yourself even when you are imperfect and not up to the standards of your ego.

Thats a way to grow through psychedelics, and your next session will be a test to see how far along the path you have come.

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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: Asante]
    #14048804 - 03/01/11 02:24 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Can't you just give him a magical potion or some eye of newt, so he doesn't have bad trips anymore?

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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14048807 - 03/01/11 02:26 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

There is xanax for that purpose.


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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: Asante]
    #14048809 - 03/01/11 02:27 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Thank you Wiccan.  That is very wise advice.

Sometimes it's hard to live closer to how you should when you're not sure about some things though. 

Particularly related to my ex-girlfriend.  Even keeping it touch makes me feel somewhat guilty because I have a new girlfriend I want to be fair to her.  And I do still have some feelings for my ex.  She was my first love, only girl I ever lived with, so it's only natural.

I've been waiting for the day that situation was going to bite me on my ass.  Today was that day!

*Not trying to turn this into a psychiatrist session here about my ex and what not.  Just in order to be open about the bad trip I had to give that piece of info.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

Edited by Shpongle1 (03/01/11 02:30 PM)

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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14048822 - 03/01/11 02:29 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Respect the teachers or they will bend you over. Some of us have to
learn this the hard way.

Take your time to reflect on the trip, it will take you weeks if not
months I know it took me that long. Do not try to understand it at this
point. Just accept that it has happened, and try to learn from the
experience and grow as a person.

Might I also suggest a book that helped give me insight to the workings
of a trip for spiritual/mental growth.

http://www.amazon.com/Mushroom-Wisdom-Cultivate-Spiritual-Consciousness/dp/1579510361/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299015227&sr=8-1


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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14048870 - 03/01/11 02:39 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Out of curiosity OP how much did you eat?


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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14048888 - 03/01/11 02:41 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

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Can't you just give him a magical potion or some eye of newt, so he doesn't have bad trips anymore?




It doesnt work that way, bad trips should happen when they occur, and at such a time you should dive headfirst into them to grow and become stronger. Bad trips often are the most fruitful ones in your personal growth.

The things that make bad trips so atrocious are you knicking yourself, rejecting yourself and fighting with all your strength that which you already know but not dare to face up to. Once you cease struggling and accept it, the bad trip will end, this can happen while the trip in fact is still on the rise.

A bad trip is not a sentence to be condemned to suffer until the drug wears off. If you manage to unblock yourself, it can turn around just like that and 100 seconds after crying your heart out you can roar with laughter that feels truly divine and echoes through the cosmos in glory.

Once you hit rock bottom and say: "OK God/Universe, you got me: I give up. Smite me with whatever you have in store for me." the only way you can go is up.

You will never be "beyond conflict", but THESE conflicts you can rise beyond.


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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14048898 - 03/01/11 02:42 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Close to an 1/8th.  I tripped with my girlfriend for her first time a couple weeks ago and we split one mushroom out of that bag cause I thought we could use a bit more on top of the amount we had already eaten.  So basically a fat 1/8th of Syzygy minus one mushroom.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14048900 - 03/01/11 02:43 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

All of my trips thus far have been bad trips. (Mushrooms)
I never get deterred, because I'm quite hopeful to see the bright side soon, but I'm four trips in and all of them were quite bad.
You do learn a lot from them though!
Well, that is if you're not vomiting everywhere and feeling suicidal like I usually do.

Good to see that you can brush it off easily though, and also that you're not going to give up after one negative experience.

Happy tripping in the future my man!
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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: vulcAn]
    #14048910 - 03/01/11 02:45 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Vulcan, how about halving the doses you take?


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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: Asante]
    #14048940 - 03/01/11 02:49 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Meditation is key while tripping mushrooms. It allows you to center yourself and not focus on whats happening, but embrace it and allow it to become you.


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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: Asante]
    #14048963 - 03/01/11 02:55 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Vulcan, how about halving the doses you take?



First trip was 3. Absolutely ripped me limb to limb.
Second, thought I dosed WAY too high and took 2. Felt FANTASTIC for the first hour, then I hit the peak and wanted to kill myself.. seriously.
Thought maybe if I killed myself all of the thoughts would get out of my head. Felt like how I'd imagine Schizophrenia to feel.
Third I took somewhere between 2.5 and 5g.. was attempting to take a 5g tea dose but got way too nauseous after drinking one cup and a bit of the next. Nausea made me hate everything and then I lost all visual effects and just started thinking like a maniac.
Fourth was just.. bad, but it didn't have a lot to do with me so much as set/setting and mostly the bad decision to trip with two quite terrible friends.

I don't think a 1g dose would even be worth it, personally.


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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: vulcAn]
    #14049005 - 03/01/11 03:01 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

You'd be surprised my friend.  Some of the best trips I've had were just splitting and 1/8th with someone close to you.  More is not always better!  That's a fact.

I hope you find the sweet spot soon man, you seem like a good guy.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: Coming Down From First Bad Trip. Fuck. [Re: vulcAn]
    #14049025 - 03/01/11 03:05 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

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I don't think a 1g dose would even be worth it, personally.




Try 1.75 grams, on average with cubies that should be 10mg psilocybin, that could do a whole lot for you.

Most of my trips are 0.25gr-1gr.


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