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Re: New Bonaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14053250 - 03/02/11 08:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wait... what? Are you claiming they can transmit away from the scanner?
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Re: New Bonaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: DieCommie]
#14053273 - 03/02/11 08:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: Wait... what? Are you claiming they can transmit away from the scanner? 
no... I'm not making that claim at all but every ham radio operator on the planet says they can
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Re: New Bonaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14053295 - 03/02/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Unless they are powered by a battery, they are passive and cannot transmit on their own without an external field to power them up.
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Re: New Bonaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: DieCommie]
#14053334 - 03/02/11 08:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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the scanner can transmit as well as receive, the signal can be relayed around the world... the chip only has to sit there
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14053343 - 03/02/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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SS32 said: Yes, a dataset of nameless numbers with no link to the person those numbers represent
you buy a tracking device, use a credit card because you had to buy online, they mail it to you, they had to have your name and address, you have to activate it, again, probably online where you'll enter your name again and probably other info like an email... yeah... completely nameless
i was just talking to my friends about this, and im glad i went before all this bullshit started. how effective do you think it would be if everyone( i mean everyone) removed and destroyed their bracelets upon entry? i wouldnt recommend saving them and taking them back to your house.but i guess it wouldnt matter because they will be mailed to you beforehand.
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Olympus Mons]
#14053349 - 03/02/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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what about gate privileges, you know, to pass in and out, cant do it without the chip
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14053354 - 03/02/11 08:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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what do you mean gate privileges, like going into centeroo or entering and exiting the festival?
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14053370 - 03/02/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why would they care what everyone of the people was doing? And why invest in processing all the data? To get what? I still don't think there's anything sinister behind this(I'm a savage optimist) also, blocking the chip should be fairly easy, that way you can get fucked up without the government knowing behind which tree you took a piss and how long you vomited behind the main stage and still be able to get in out...Win/Win (Bi-Winning if you want )
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Olympus Mons]
#14053371 - 03/02/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah... that's pretty much what I mean... suppose you want to hit waffle house for food instead of buying the burrito the wooks reheat in their underoos
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14053378 - 03/02/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i try not to leave once im there unless i absolutely have to. all i can say to that is bring enough munchies.
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: 13.step]
#14053390 - 03/02/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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13.step said: Why would they care what everyone of the people was doing? And why invest in processing all the data?
why even issue RFID tags if they arent wanting to process the data, they have the tags, scanners and the software to use the tags, why invest that if they arent interested in tracking
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blocking the chip should be fairly easy
really, how's that gonna work? suit of armor?
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14053423 - 03/02/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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why invest that if they arent interested in tracking
Presumably, because its easier and cheaper than using bar codes.
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Olympus Mons] 1
#14053428 - 03/02/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Olympus Mons said: i try not to leave once im there unless i absolutely have to. all i can say to that is bring enough munchies.
eat the damn burrito
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14053441 - 03/02/11 09:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well sure they're gonna process the data, but to see what people are doing and how they can optimize the layout and stuff like that (don't know much about Bonaroo, I'm referring to administrational problems) And it's a lot easier to get in with a chip instead of having a guy check your whristband to see if maybe that 3 in the code isn't a bit to slanted for an original band, so no more lines in theory.
Suit of armor would be aweseome, but I'm sure there are better radio-opaque materials to wrap the band in (concrete comes to mind )
I just thought about something interesting, how do they prevent people from cutting them off and giving them to friends? Do they stop working if you cut them? Or is there actually a guy looking at each and every one?
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: 13.step]
#14053604 - 03/02/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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or it could be that the organizers are working with police to bust as many wooks as they can and there will be scanners on the roads entering and leaving bonnaroo as well as in the festival
with those RFID wrist bands I know I wont be attending bonnaroo this year, I also didnt attend last year or any of the years prior so it's not like I'm missing much more than a lack of sleep, loads of heat an mud and some nasty wooks
and for everyone that will be in attendance
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14053641 - 03/02/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow Super Scary, thanks for posting this OP!
And I was thinking of this;
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there will be scanners on the roads entering and leaving bonnaroo as well as in the festival
We all know they have checkpoints, etc. for cars coming in (every year Shroomerites have road stories coming to or leaving from Bonnaroo...now if the roadblock cops have the RFID scanners, they'll know which cars are associated with the festival. For hippie vans and buses this is no big deal, obviously they are going, but for people trying to be DL and discrete in normal cars, normal hair/clothes...
Just weird technology to be associating with a music festival...
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Re: New Bonaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#14053707 - 03/02/11 10:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hilarious. A bunch of druggies discussing illegal activities on a publicly accessible web site going haywire over some RFIDs that are there to prevent ticket fraud. 
This place keeps cracking me up, every day.
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Prisoner#1 said: hahahah RADIO FREQUENCY... which also means they can relay signals
So fucking what? If you can log it, you can relay the signal. And then what? Worried about HAM radio nerds logging your bonnaroo RFID tag? Oh noes!!111!!  For once Pris you're so far out of your depth I need fucking sonar to see where you're at.
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: dwpineal]
#14053708 - 03/02/11 10:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The RFID's that I've used need to be in VERY close proximity to be read, like, touching the reader. You couldn't really scan a car that's driving by.
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Re: New Bonnaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: badchad]
#14053729 - 03/02/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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badchad said: The RFID's that I've used need to be in VERY close proximity to be read, like, touching the reader. You couldn't really scan a car that's driving by.
false. you can get credit card numbers through clothing purses and wallets just by being on the same street as an rfid credit card.
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Re: New Bonaroo wristbands have RFID chips in them [Re: koraks]
#14053734 - 03/02/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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koraks said: Hilarious. A bunch of druggies discussing illegal activities on a publicly accessible web site going haywire over some RFIDs that are there to prevent ticket fraud. 
This place keeps cracking me up, every day.
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Prisoner#1 said: hahahah RADIO FREQUENCY... which also means they can relay signals
So fucking what? If you can log it, you can relay the signal. And then what? Worried about HAM radio nerds logging your bonnaroo RFID tag? Oh noes!!111!!  For once Pris you're so far out of your depth I need fucking sonar to see where you're at.
1st of all not everyone here is a druggie, second of all youre insanely naive for not seeing why this is a big deal.
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