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Feed My Horse SPORES????
    #14048149 - 03/01/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So if I were to theoretically feed my horse a sterile solution of cubensis spores every day for a couple months, would his shit not start sprouting shrooms like crazy? (weather permitting)

I mean like 3 entire dark spore prints EVERY DAY.....

Anyone with advice on this?


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14048163 - 03/01/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i think the acids in horses stomach might destroy the spores


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14048165 - 03/01/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So if I were to theoretically feed my horse a sterile solution of cubensis spores every day for a couple months, would his shit not start sprouting shrooms like crazy? (weather permitting)

I mean like 3 entire dark spore prints EVERY DAY.....

Anyone with advice on this?



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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: hamloaf]
    #14048185 - 03/01/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

there was a post year or two back about this, ppl going around spraying spores in horse/cows feed, on fields...lemme see if can find it and see what their results were lol


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys] * 1
    #14048196 - 03/01/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

spore CAN survive all four of a cows stomache.

horses, idk


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14048198 - 03/01/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So if I were to theoretically feed my horse a sterile solution of cubensis spores every day for a couple months, would his shit not start sprouting shrooms like crazy? (weather permitting)

I mean like 3 entire dark spore prints EVERY DAY.....

Anyone with advice on this?



don't do it:super:


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: hamloaf]
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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys]
    #14049135 - 03/01/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting, I bet you would have better luck just spreading the spores on the dung pile, or letting several piles of shit fruit and spore till they die in different parts of the pasture and eventually the entire pasture should be ready to colonize any new droppings.

Im no expert, but thats my amateur opinion.

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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: Hashishin13]
    #14049290 - 03/01/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

COMEon............ noone with ANY definitive anecdotal
experience??????????????????????


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14049353 - 03/01/11 04:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is one the craziest post i ever readed here :psycow:

:holyshit:

But seriously,
i dont think it can work.....
Dont feed your horse an lc please :laugh:


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: henk600]
    #14049398 - 03/01/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

knock up lc and start squirting that on horseshit like mad. Don't like directly involve the horse :rofldrunk:


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14049434 - 03/01/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I lived on a horse farm for a time. It was a haven for wild actives, cubes and galandoi mostly. We'd drop dried caps into feed once a week. 1 or 2 caps per horse.

No ill effects to the horses, but it's hard to say for certain "Yes, this is why this place is so plentiful". It's a country horse farm that's been cranking for 3 generations now (I can't be THAT old...... crap.:facepalm:) so numerous factors are involved. I've seen great hauls and lame ones, often at odds with what we'd predicted based on weather and such.

But I digress.

Try it. Won't hurt.

Not all strains will work in your environment, so keep that in mind. Find out what actives are wild in your area (or at least in your climate type) and start from there.

And unlike everyone else's threads on this, please let us know what you do and how it turns out. Even a total failboat can be helpful to know about.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: mathias]
    #14050108 - 03/01/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A quick search will reveal this works with cows.  I've not ever seen a wild cubensis on horse manure.  I don't know if anyone else has or not, but I've only seen it on cow.
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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14051965 - 03/01/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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definitive
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what is this... i dont even....
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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: k00laid]
    #14052478 - 03/02/11 12:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lolz koolaid.

Indeed RR I have seen the posts about cows, but i do not have any cows. 

And mathias that is interesting anecdote, but i would NEVER feed my horse caps.  Now a carrot thats been rolled around in spores, thats another story.

i don't EVER want to trip-sit a horse.  Trip sitting my cat was hard enough.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14052711 - 03/02/11 03:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if you really want the shrooms to grow outa natural horse shit maybe just make some spawn and plant it around the field :shrug:  with all the spores you plan on feedin the horse it would probably kill at least half of them in the digestive tract..  if anything take those 3 prints a day and make a spray bottle with spore solution and spray the shit yourself and youll get better chances..  thats what my logic says...


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: wow]
    #14053979 - 03/02/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, your logic is relatively sound my friend, but I am SERIOUSLY considering doing this for a few reasons. 
1. THe horse does ALL the damn work.  I don't have to make a spray bottle solution, I don't have to walk around and look for horse shit.  All I have to do is collect the shrooms when said weather patterns are favorable.
2. ALL I would have to do is literally smear a carrot with so many spores you couldnt see the orange any more.  Then just feed it to him.


Well I'm trying it anyhows, well see how it goes.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14054012 - 03/02/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why dont you just scrape some spores over the horsepoo when ever you find some..???


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14056321 - 03/02/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Okay, your logic is relatively sound my friend, but I am SERIOUSLY considering doing this for a few reasons. 
1. THe horse does ALL the damn work.  I don't have to make a spray bottle solution, I don't have to walk around and look for horse shit.  All I have to do is collect the shrooms when said weather patterns are favorable.
2. ALL I would have to do is literally smear a carrot with so many spores you couldnt see the orange any more.  Then just feed it to him.


Well I'm trying it anyhows, well see how it goes.





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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: lancasterpunk29]
    #14056691 - 03/02/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

1 or 2 good sized caps is NOTHING to a half-ton horse, trip-wise.
That's about a gram in the belly of a 1000lb beast.
For humans that ratio would be about 1 tenth of a gram.
Yeh, we all WISH they were that potent....


It may take time to find the right technique and strain for your area. What is in the horse's normal diet? A fungicide in the feed = disaster. I've only used organic or self-grown feeds and just dealt with the high storage maintenance and so on, so I'm not savy on commercial feeds. Details, details.

What other types of mushrooms grow in your area? When and how they grow can give you some clues as to how to go about this.

Hardly effortless, but still brilliant.

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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: mathias]
    #14057174 - 03/02/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

damn that sounds like a good idea! where i live we have about 6 cows. only 3 eat grain though the rest eat hay that we cut and bail our self. i think im going to try to feed them some spores. only spores i have right now are orissa's though. not really sure on the climate they grow in though. don't really think anything grows around here other then liberty bells but what the hell! i'm going to try it! i don't think drowning a carrot is the way to go though... that's kind of a one shot thing. i say stick a little on a carrot every day and spread out the love a little bit. i live in kansas city kansas and our weather changes so much it's hard to call. i know alot of mushrooms grow around here cause i have went out and picked them and looked them up to see what they are when i started doing this. a guy a know dumps wood chips from a tree service he owns a couple property's over and i been thinking about going and getting a bunch and trying to grow some wood lovers on them. so many mushrooms grow out of them wood chips it'n unbelievable! point is... i think you might be on to something. i wish you would try it and finish up this post and let us all know what happened.... if you don't then ill try it and ill let everyone know what happens... the same guy with the wood chips has some horses... i might try cows and horses and see what happens. i read here that cow and horse stomach acid ain't strong enough to destroy the spores. so i think it might work. other then moisture being off a bit.... however... orissa's  or african's was found in elephant shit... which also has alot more oisture then recommend. ill post after im done!


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys]
    #14058315 - 03/03/11 03:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1578152/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1


claims of it working with cows...




Well, seeing as they only naturally occur on cow (and buffalo and elephant) dung one would think this was to be expected, no? There is a reason why nature does things the way it does.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: VvTWIZTIDvV]
    #14058319 - 03/03/11 03:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Psilocybe cubensis will neither grow in Kansas nor on horse dung (at least not in a natural environment).


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14058333 - 03/03/11 03:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Psilocybe cubensis will neither grow in Kansas nor on horse dung (at least not in a natural environment).





soo, if they dont grow naturally in horse manure...should i scratch my first attempt at manure, and try to find cow instead? im confused about that lol


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys]
    #14058335 - 03/03/11 03:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

also, not rushing or anything at all..just curious if ya ever got a chance to get those swabs out :-P


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys]
    #14058348 - 03/03/11 03:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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soo, if they dont grow naturally in horse manure...should i scratch my first attempt at manure, and try to find cow instead? im confused about that lol



Psilocybe cubensis will neither grow in Kansas nor on horse dung (at least not in a natural environment).


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14058351 - 03/03/11 03:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah i saw the part about nature..but my line of thinking is, if it wont grow on it in nature why would it be that good for indoor..i mean, seems cow would be better giving the wild results..


sorry I am dumb when it comes to manure, never used it i've always used just coir, or straw, or mixture of the two..


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14058427 - 03/03/11 04:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Cubes won't naturally grow in coir or straw, either. I think it has more to do with the germination of the spores, because on all these substrates you can grow cubes if you have colonized spawn to mix in.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14058431 - 03/03/11 04:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ok that clears it up a bit more for me, thanks...i just didn't want to spawn to horse manure if cow manure would be better, i actually have way more access to cow over horse..


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys]
    #14058509 - 03/03/11 05:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

For indoor cubensis cultivation, horse manure is the best bulk substrate material, under the sun, due to it's readiness, enrichment of the perfect balance of nutrition for cubesis mycelium, and texture, to use straight from it's source.  Cow manure is nothing to sneeze at, however.  Cubensis mycelium loves it.  Cow manure'll just need to be added to coir, straw, or horse manure at 30-50% due to it's consistency one brought to field capacity and pasteurized.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: hamloaf]
    #14058539 - 03/03/11 06:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I can see how field aged, dried out cow pizza would also be awesome for growing cubes (and if not used exclusively for growing a whole number of other mushrooms as well), but it's not something one usually has access to. All I can get here are concentrated cow dung pellets and they aren't cheap, so horse nuggets are really my substrate of choice, since I can pick them up at half a dozen places for free.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14058560 - 03/03/11 06:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

About 25 miles from my house, in the country, there's a lonely fast food restaurant off of a major American Highway from which behind it lies 40 acres of concentrated field cow manure that's screaming my name, "HAMLOAF!".

Been around the rural block looking for a door to knock on but have had no luck.  It's not above me to hop that fence in the middle of the night but I'd rather have permission.  If I haven't made my way into the field by the next time I go out there, I'mma pick up a pic of the field and lay it down in this thread for you all to oogle at.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: hamloaf]
    #14058626 - 03/03/11 07:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

lucky for me i live in country, horse fields everywhere, not to mention i've always woked on dairy farms, all of which i left on good terms so could go back anytime...soooo if i like manure i'll have plenty of it!


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys]
    #14058842 - 03/03/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lucky for you, indeed.  I guarantee, with the skill level and enthusiasm to this hobby I have noticed you possess, you'r going to love manure over coir as it's the next level.  Manure is just a little more work intensive then coir made up for by the fact that's it's free.  Also personally, I find it much more gratifying to gatther and process my own manure then purchasing coir.   

Also, you'll get to practice your pasteurization technique.  Once you can pasteurize properly, this opens avenues for growing other type species that won't grow well on coir, such as Pan Cyans and Portobellos.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: hamloaf]
    #14058920 - 03/03/11 09:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yup thats one of the main reasons i decided to go ahead and attempt manure..figured it'll show just how good my pasteurization is, and i have so many prints laying around other then cubes that i want to play with but not quiet ready for yet.


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    #14059383 - 03/03/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I find this all very interesting and would love to see somebody actually try this experiment.  If it's going to happen anywhere, it might as well be here on shroomery!


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: hamloaf]
    #14066588 - 03/04/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

   


Cow manure field I current have in the cross-hairs.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14066636 - 03/04/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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A quick search will reveal this works with cows.  I've not ever seen a wild cubensis on horse manure.  I don't know if anyone else has or not, but I've only seen it on cow.
RR





Some one better write a tek on this...

"The Cow Shit Tek - No sterile procedure necessary"

Materials Needed

Spore prints
Cow Feed
Spray bottle.

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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: hamloaf]
    #14066725 - 03/04/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Cow manure field I current have in the cross-hairs.





it amazes me that those cows dont get out every other day, that is a poor excuse for a fence lol


but yeah lovely pasture to go gathering!


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: k00laid]
    #14066781 - 03/04/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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what is this... i dont even....
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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys]
    #14072204 - 03/05/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Cow manure field I current have in the cross-hairs.





it amazes me that those cows dont get out every other day, that is a poor excuse for a fence lol


but yeah lovely pasture to go gathering!




Where I live now, there are no fences.  The cows and horses are free to roam the open range, a few million acres of it.  We round them up on horseback in the fall.  This makes for excellent, organic grass-fed beef.  I haven't had to buy a steak since I moved here.  We put tags in their ears so we know who's cows belongs to who, and during round up season, we round up all the cows we find, regardless of owner.  They're then separated once in the corrals.

It sure seems strange to see cows behind a fence like that. :lol:

I doubt you'll get cubes to grow in a non-native-like habitat.  If it's hot and dry all summer, the cow pies dry totally out and the sun bakes the mycelium until it nukes it.  Cubes grow in cow manure in climates that get regular rain or at least thunderstorms all summer.  If there's no rain in June-Sept, the mycelium will dry out and die.
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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14072313 - 03/05/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He's not gonna get cubes ti grow there, he's gonna raid it for cow manure for indoor grow..


also, I know you're where the real cowboys are, and people have respect for other peoples stuff



Here in VA if you dont watch it people will come shoot your cows in your field and cut them up in the middle of the night


People this way have absolutely no respect for other people and dont care what they do as long as they get away with it..


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys]
    #14078837 - 03/06/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Daaaamn bio.  thats some harsh shit.
If someone cut up my cow/horse in the middle of the night I would probably shoot them with a rifle or shotgun.  I just moved to the country and I must say, my second ammendment rights are enjoyable to say the least.  Moved from a metro area of 2 million people to an EXTREMELY rural are with about 500 people in the county.  Lolz almost every time you see another person out here someone is wielding a weapon.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14078845 - 03/06/11 11:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

sad part is, here in VA you do have the right to bear arms, but you can not shoot someone unless its SELF denfense...also, if osmeone is TRYING to break into your house you are not allowed to shoot, you can only shoot if the person is actually inside of your house...its bs really


and im telling ya, its horrible man I love the country but with the economy right now, people will literally shoot your cows/pigs/live stock just to feed their families


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys]
    #14079216 - 03/07/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Daamn.  Thats some hard shit man.  I hope i never have to encounter HUMANS eating my livestock.
Bad enough I have to deal with the goddamn coyotes round these parts.


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Re: Feed My Horse SPORES???? [Re: biologys]
    #14080144 - 03/07/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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sad part is, here in VA you do have the right to bear arms, but you can not shoot someone unless its SELF denfense...also, if osmeone is TRYING to break into your house you are not allowed to shoot, you can only shoot if the person is actually inside of your house...its bs really


and im telling ya, its horrible man I love the country but with the economy right now, people will literally shoot your cows/pigs/live stock just to feed their families





welcome to the state of california


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