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any abinsthe distillers?
#14046052 - 02/28/11 11:13 PM (13 years, 5 days ago) |
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I've really been getting into absinthe- I just love the "sativa version of alcohol" kind of drunk it gives-and from what I've been reading all the best swiss and french onces just distill some fairly basic mash recipes, so I figured I'd give it a try
Anyone done it before? Any tips or recipes? I'm pretty sure I've seen a jade recipe that's supposed to be a pernod fils original recipe, and it shouldn't be too hard to at least find a swiss clandestine recipe, right?
btw if you don't know much about absinthe yet, still think it makes you trip, or are just curious, here's some of my favorite absinthe sites http://www.absintheonline.com/acatalog/Absinthe.html has some good absinthe at good prices and wormwoodsociety.org good reviews and http://www.alandia.de/ has some cool stuff like coca absinthe and some cool spoon and fountains n stuff
but here's a video about the awesome Jade distillery
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You need a double Boiler for your still simple downword lyner arm, you need all the flavor and oils check home distiller. Com
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: jokefox]
#14046348 - 03/01/11 12:19 AM (13 years, 5 days ago) |
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just go buy some dude, its legal now.
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but its not the same
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: jokefox]
#14046581 - 03/01/11 01:31 AM (13 years, 5 days ago) |
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not the same as what?
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: jokefox]
#14047230 - 03/01/11 07:25 AM (13 years, 5 days ago) |
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not the same as making your own, beers legal but there is still this forum on homebrewing right? same thing, and btw it was pretty much always legal, just never legal to sell in the US-not approved by the FDA
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jokefox said: You need a double Boiler for your still simple downword lyner arm, you need all the flavor and oils check home distiller. Com
k thanks, I'll look into it some more
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Spanish Absinthe (called "Absenta") never was outlawed in Spain like the French/Swiss Absinthes were in the early 1900s, so it continued to evolve for over a hundred years more.
Absenta typically uses somewhat different herbs, in concentrations that are usually smaller than those in the classic French/Swiss Absinthes. A benefit of the latter is that Spanish Absenta is more suitable for the bigger still, as it uses lesser amounts of herbs. It also means that it is less likely to produce hangovers when taken to excess. Here's how you do it:
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ABSENTA VERDE - a Spanish verte absinthe approx. 55% alcohol
required:
12 grams star anise 8 grams green anise (aniseed) 6 grams fennel 4 grams wormwood herb 2 grams angelica root 1 grams coriander
and also:
3 grams lemon balm (melissa) 2 grams hyssop
and also:
1.5 liters 40% alcohol (flavorless vodka)
preparation:
1..Grind the 6 maceration herbs into a powder 2..Put the herbal powder in the 1.5 liter 40% alcohol and shake well 3..Let this stand in the dark for 12-24 hours (overnight) 4..Pour the alcohol with the wet herbs into your still 5..Distill off one liter of condensate (warning: flammable) 6..Reduce the melissa + hyssop to a powder 7..Put the herbal powder into the liter of distillate and shake well 8..Let this stand in the dark for 12-24 hours (overnight) 9..Pour the Absenta through a coffee filter-paper to filter it 10.Store your liter of Absenta Verde at least two months to ripen
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Can it be any easier? Not with a REAL Absinthe. If you want counterfeits yes it can be much easier, but it won't be a high-end Absinthe.
If you do it like this and do it well, you get an Absinthe you would pay an easy $75/liter for in a shop, but only for a fraction of the price.
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I decided to loosely emulate a recipy for a historic absinthe found in this document from 1908 called Absinthe d'Pontarlier.
It is a "Holy Trinity" absinthe, in that it consists chiefly of the three herbs Wormwood, Aniseed and Fennel. It is extremely basic in composition, so easy to get right as a beginning absinthe distiller. Here's how I did it:
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ABSINTHE D' PONTARLIER
25 grams Wormwood 50 grams Aniseed 50 grams Fennel
this was steeped in 1.5 liters of 47% alcohol overnight
in the wok still it was distilled to draw off 900ml (aim was to draw off a liter)
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This resulted in a clear absinthe of 68% alcohol (87% yield) which can be drank as is, or colored with herbs.
I chose to prepare a glass of absinthe as it is now.
25ml Absinthe d'Pontarlier was mixed with 75ml sugarwater of ten percent.
Immediately a louche became appearant, which over the minutes gradually deepened until the glass became fully opaque with cloudiness.
Despite that I had cut some corners the absinthe has a really nice flavor, quite strong but not overly so, which lingers for a long time. The inebriation is equally pleasant.
To think this is fresh from the still, and hasn't ripened yet!
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If you want to give your absinthes something extra, add 5-10ml pharmaceutical grade glycerin (brewing store) to each liter of prepared Absinthe. The longer your Absinthe has ripened, the better the taste becomes. In the second recipe, which is traditional, its permissible to reduce aniseed and fennel from 50gr to 25gr so you get a 25/25/25 recipe to a liter. This will better suit the modern palate.
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: Asante]
#14047553 - 03/01/11 09:25 AM (13 years, 5 days ago) |
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I've heard of an read one where they use hibiscus flower to color it... Somepoeple say it wasn't the wormwood, it was the lead and other stuff that made you trip....
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: Asante]
#14047560 - 03/01/11 09:27 AM (13 years, 5 days ago) |
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awesome! just what I was looking for. I have known about spanish absinthe only as being of high quality like swiss or french but very unique, haven't had the chance to try it yet nor did I know the history-so thanks! I'll be sure to pick up a bottle soon, but I'll definitely try this recipe too looks great, thanks
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: Brainiac]
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Brainiac said: I've heard of an read one where they use hibiscus flower to color it... Somepoeple say it wasn't the wormwood, it was the lead and other stuff that made you trip....
well, I would say that if you have never smoked weed or anything like that and you drank a lot of strong absinthe you might consider it a "trip" out of ignorance but its more of an "alcohol-sativa" and just like a strong haze or something you can get a head high that makes you seem a bit more...dreamy or something, idk, it made my tracers really strong
I have heard though that it may have been cheaper absinthe that had some kind of copper, or lead like you said, in it that was actually poisoning people? It kind of reminds me of that salamander vodka that was thought to make you trip-but in fact it was just poisoning people
but if you look at the history I think its obvious the biggest thing was the wine companies getting pissed off, and all the propaganda- it really struck me as very similar to the story of cannabis today
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then why can I go to the any liquour store in the US and buy absinthe with the thujone content % listed on the packaging? Its not illegal anymore.
On a more positive note, I have recently read that an herb called Elecampane was sometimes used in french and swiss absinthe recipes.
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It has to be less than 10ppm of thujone....
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: Brainiac]
#14049625 - 03/01/11 04:43 PM (13 years, 4 days ago) |
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Look in the welcome thread . Its stickied. Added a link in there check out that site
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: Brainiac]
#14049697 - 03/01/11 04:56 PM (13 years, 4 days ago) |
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After ten minutes of reading the FDA's website I've decided that I would rather just admit to being wrong about anything as opposed reading anymore of that crap. Its like reading the sun.
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http://stgblog.squarespace.com/st-george-absinthe-verte/
Well, I know I can buy this across the street. I emailed them for confirmation of thujone content.
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Commercial sold absinthe won't do the same as if you brewed it yourself
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: jokefox]
#14050783 - 03/01/11 07:56 PM (13 years, 4 days ago) |
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seriously dude, buy an american absinthe, buy a czech one, and buy a swiss, spanish or french one american one will be like pretty much regular alcohol czech one will literally taste like varnish swiss spanish or french will taste like a delicious (although for some its an acquired taste) licorice lemonade with all sorts of different flavors and varieties to explore, and if regular alcohol is an indica, this would be a sativa
and btw, did you watch that vid at the top? the modern marvel thing talks about the FDA regulations
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What you need good Sir is a repost of my "Absinthe Buyers & Drinkers Guide" thread:
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Video on how to drink Absinthe (auto download)
The market is saturated with all sorts of crap at sometimes outrageous prices. It is important to realize that a lot of "Absinthes" you can buy quite often have nothing to do with real Absinthe. Here's advice on which kinds to buy, at what price, and how to prepare it. The preparation is detailed in the attached video.
OK, here goes.
Absinthe can be bought in bottles of 0.1, 0.2, 0.5 and 1 liter.
For liters, you can expect to pay $50-$150. Since a serving of absinthe before dilution measures 20-30ml, this boils down to $1-$5 per glass. Here are brands that come highly recommended:
DUPLAIS (Balance, Verte, Blanche) FRANCOIS GUY HELFRICH (Verte, La Blanche) JADE (Edouard, Nouvelle Orleans, PF 1901, Verte Suisse) LA VALOTE (Bovet, Fornoni, Martin) LASALA (spanish Absenta, can be had for $35/liter) SEGARRA (spanish Absenta) UN EMILE 68 (also their La Blanche) VERSINTHE (Verte and especially La Blanche) VERTE DE FOUGEROLLES
These 20 Absinthes from 10 houses all are top notch quality, contrary to the extensive list of crappy or even false Absinthes. You can expect to pay $75 a liter on average.
As you can see there are two kinds of Absinthe: Verte (green) and La Blanche (white). Both are traditional. Basically the distilled Absinthes are La Blanche, and when additive herbs are steeped into it it gains flavor and a green color, producing a Verte.
If you have not a clue which to select my personal choice for the beginner would be to buy a 0.5 liter bottle of Duplais Balance (costs about $35, 15-25 glasses) which is a rather good Verte absinthe, and to buy an absinthe spoon with it.
You can use a white wine glass to serve Absinthe:

Make sure the glass can comfortably hold 130ml (30+100) or 90ml (20+60) which your Absinthe requires, and that it is fairly wide so it can fit an absinthe spoon. If you want to improvise entirely, a metal tea-strainer can be put on the glass to hold the sugarcube, and a teaspoon can be used to stir the dilute Absinthe afterwards.
An Absinthe preparation that's good for all kinds is to take a wine glass, pour in 30ml (20ml) of Absinthe, then pour 100ml (60ml) icecold water over one sugar cube on an Absinthe spoon, then stirring until all sugar is dissolved in the dilute Absinthe. Upon diluting, most good absinthe turns cloudy (the "louche") or even becomes so cloudy as to become non-transparent. This is usually a good sign, whereas absence of a louche usually is a bad sign.
You drink Absinthe by taking a sip, and spreading it through your mouth for some time before swallowing. Let the aftertaste linger before you sip some more. It is all about the taste, and a good Absinthe has a lot of taste to it. You should relax and take your time for enjoying Absinthe - if a glass lasts you at least twenty minutes before its empty, you are on the right track. Absinthe is not for chugging, and isn't about getting hammered either.
I cannot stress enough that Absinthe should always be diluted with water, 2-5 parts of water to one part of Absinthe. Drinking it neat is like drinking lemonade syrup neat: you can't expect it to taste good that way. Adding one cube of sugar is most common, some add two and others none. Sugar helps to bring out the flavor.
It's important to realize that Absinthe, real Absinthe, is a drink with often a strong anise flavor to it. If you don't like anise, chances are you won't like Absinthe.
Absinthe is best reserved for before or after dinner, or at the close of day, alone or discussing with friends. I recommend against drinking more than three glasses on a given day: if alcohol becomes a factor it is best to switch to a less refined drink better suited for stiff drinking. Absinthe is too expensive to get drunk on, it has too much flavor for continued drinking, and may give rise to a fiendish hangover if drank in excess. For the frequent drinker, one glass of absinthe a day is the most you should drink of it, and preferably more days without absinthe than with to keep it special.
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I'm going to give you one suggestion almost guaranteed to please you if you like Absinthe:
DUPLAIS BALANCE

Its one of the worlds finest Absinthes, and for its quality (a five star authentic absinthe) it is the cheapest.
It is psychoactive in the way Absinthes are psychoactive. I find it gives you drunkennness with clarity and a tendency to contemplation. It is subtle, drink it as the first drug of the day, when you are fully sober. If you smoke pot the subtleties of Absinthe are lost, so save the joint for after you enjoyed it enough.
You drink Absinthe, in descending order of importance:
1..for the flavor 2..for the ritual 3..for the psychoactivity
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: Asante]
#14051132 - 03/01/11 09:01 PM (13 years, 4 days ago) |
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Somepeople say its not only the wormwood, but the anise that can make you trip.... The anise, is what make's it turn white....
OT also good for throwing dogs off.....
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Re: any abinsthe distillers? [Re: jokefox]
#14051135 - 03/01/11 09:01 PM (13 years, 4 days ago) |
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I'm pretty sure you don't "Brew" it.
Regardless, why don't you spell it out for me why this is, instead of writing one sentence responses.
seriously, I'd like to know why you believe this.
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