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ProfessorPinHead
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Very Nice!

"I like"! ================== Good job bro
Those look like they are ready to explode 
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faceyneck
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Yeah, man. I'd like to see you take advantage of that space, like section it all off top to bottom, ceiling and all with plastic sheeting, put like 9 or 10 more metal shelves in there, and start a little edible mushroom farm. 
You have that bad-ass humidification setup goin' on and everything. I bet you could hit $5,000.00 or more a month by yourself. 
It's not exactly a six-figure salary or anything, but it would be a fun job.
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hamloaf
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todlow said:

The feet of those pinheads are a little fuzzy. Also, the compatible fusions of hyphae reaching out past the substrate in search of food can be observed. I'd say your mushrooms would benefit from a slight increase of fresh air. Other than that, you'll harvest fruits from that substrate within the next 3 days, if you haven't harvested already. Nice set-up as well.
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TranscendingLife
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Re: The Monotub Bag Colonization Thread [Re: hamloaf]
#14074996 - 03/06/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks guys 
FN - man, if I could make that much off edibles a month, I'll never have a traditional job, EVER again brotha...just have to find the market around here. That "room" everything is in is about 2/3 finished...just needs the ceiling + last walll + door. I've also got a Stainless Steel connection, so once I'm on edibles it'll be rockin....
Ham - thanks for the advice on the hyphae...I let the tubs over colonize in my closet, because I was still getting my room set up. My humidifier set up fully exchanges the air in the GH's every 8-12 minutes...I'm currently re-vamping the humidifier to incorporate another exhaust pipe @ 1" that'll feed to the bottom of the GH's that way all FAE will rise & push out the top...Pics soon enough on that...
Thanks again all you guys
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controlled_chaos
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Very interested in the idea's put forth here considering Air exchange and light during spawn run. I'm wondering, with this idea put into place for a greenhouse, Could you just throw the open tubs into the greenhouse for the spawn run, or would it be a better idea to put polyfilled holes into the lids during spawn run for safer comtam free conditions.
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TranscendingLife
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If you put freshly spawned to bulk substrate into open air in a GH, they're not going to colonize properly. That's WAY TOO much AE during colonization. You'd probably have colonization for a few days, then the mycelium would find its way to the top & start pinning.
Polyfill is not a contam barrier, it's an AE limiter
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controlled_chaos
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Cool. Thanks for the reply, do you think using micropore tape would be as efficient as an AE limiter as polyfill?
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faceyneck
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controlled_chaos said: Cool. Thanks for the reply, do you think using micropore tape would be as efficient as an AE limiter as polyfill?
"Efficient" is sort of an odd term for this. How about "effective" at limiting air exchange? 
Micropore tape will limit air exchange even more than polyfil will. You could say it's more 'effective' at airflow restriction. 
Hey, todlow - thanks for bringing up that point about polyfil in bins! 
Many new growers understandably get confused about using polyfil in monotubs, and oftentimes think that the polyfil is there as a contamination barrier. While it is true that polyfil CAN be used as a contamination barrier, that is not its use for monotubs.
...but it does a little bit, and that's a nice bonus. 
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Tundra_grower
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Re: The Monotub Bag Colonization Thread [Re: faceyneck]
#14157082 - 03/20/11 11:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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im doing my first monotub, i had it completely sealed up(duct tape over holes, garbage bag over tub), and after 10 days it wasn't colonized. i now know why...to remedy my situation i took the tape off one hole and placed a tyvek patch over it and removed the garbage bag. im super paranoid about contams....but i think this will help.Thanks for the thread guys, it prob saved my grow!
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Tundra_grower
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todlow said: yea, I'm about 3/4 done w/ my 2x4 + 4mm plastic wrapped room...just gotta get the roof/lid on the bitch + the final "wall" then my grow room will be done...As for the lab...I need to get my flowhood done + a stainless steel table...probably should cover my carpet w/ something too.
 
GH + bulk humidifier set-up. I'll take a pick of the GH's in the room when i get home tonight & toss in 4 more PE6 tubs I got pinning in my colonization room...
dude where can i find a tek for that GH humidifier ??? shit is bad ass
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Re: The Monotub Bag Colonization Thread [Re: 13shrooms]
#14157140 - 03/20/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: who is sealing up there tubs, I dont see anyone doing that. 
Im talking about how much GE is too much b4 you start suppling FAE and getting early pins. I prefer to flush all at once and trigger my pinning not let it just start popping pins whenever it wants. Im the shroom god not the myc. 
my plastic wrap isnt sealing anything its just a view port to check on colonization.
I understand myc breaths O2 and gives off Co2 thats why we allow GE but how much is too much since you guys are preaching. 
sorry to post 3 times in a row, but a obv. outdated monotub tek says to duct tape the holes, cover with black garbage bag. not sure which one, but for sure i read that, and thats why i did it
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Re: The Monotub Bag Colonization Thread [Re: Tundra_grower]
#14157415 - 03/21/11 12:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't know why I put off staying caught-up with this thread or how long it took me to read through all of these posts, but damn was it funny. We started off with a pleasant discussion that turned into some crazy shit-tossing and then everyone got all sensitive and apologetic for 4 days (and super blazed.) 
Anyway, for the topic in question, I know about a hybrid tub that is open during colonization. It is currently not having any dehydration problems and the mycelium is coming up through the top layer after (only?) 3 days. I'll update on the status of colonization or contamination as it approaches.
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Re: The Monotub Bag Colonization Thread [Re: Primal Call]
#14157626 - 03/21/11 01:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So steer a noob in the right direction here.....
Now we are saying that bags might not be necessary. I get that. But what would you do if you are using for example Morelman's Modified Tub ?
Would covering the holes with micropore allow enough GE without too much AE? Or because of the small number of holes, would it be better to just leave them be open? Or am I way off with this idea?
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ProfessorPinHead
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Re: The Monotub Bag Colonization Thread [Re: Primal Call]
#14158005 - 03/21/11 05:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ryath said: I don't know why I put off staying caught-up with this thread or how long it took me to read through all of these posts, but damn was it funny. We started off with a pleasant discussion that turned into some crazy shit-tossing and then everyone got all sensitive and apologetic for 4 days (and super blazed.) 
I had absolutely nothing to do with any of this.......
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ProfessorPinHead
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ProfessorPinHead said:
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Ryath said: I don't know why I put off staying caught-up with this thread or how long it took me to read through all of these posts, but damn was it funny. We started off with a pleasant discussion that turned into some crazy shit-tossing and then everyone got all sensitive and apologetic for 4 days (and super blazed.) 
I had absolutely nothing to do with any of this....... My ego made me do it.......

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TranscendingLife
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Re: The Monotub Bag Colonization Thread [Re: Tundra_grower]
#14158361 - 03/21/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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todlow said: yea, I'm about 3/4 done w/ my 2x4 + 4mm plastic wrapped room...just gotta get the roof/lid on the bitch + the final "wall" then my grow room will be done...As for the lab...I need to get my flowhood done + a stainless steel table...probably should cover my carpet w/ something too.
 
GH + bulk humidifier set-up. I'll take a pick of the GH's in the room when i get home tonight & toss in 4 more PE6 tubs I got pinning in my colonization room...
dude where can i find a tek for that GH humidifier ??? shit is bad ass
Click here for tek that I followed, somewhat. You'll have to tweak the design & specs slightly depending on what kind of blower you get and/or how strong it is.
GL buddy. It was somewhat of a PITA to build, because I constantly kept going back over specs & re-vamping things. It took me about 2 months to gather all the supplies & properly build it. &, actually, I'm in the process of changing it a bit more & tearing it down. I've moved onto monotubs....
But it's def. a nice thing to have & learn about. I learned a lot about blowers & back-pressure due to building it. Just another thing I learned that I wouldn't've if I wasn't involved w/ mycology.
GL buddy & feel free to contact me w/ questions on the build.
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biologys
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hi it works, k thx
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Re: The Monotub Bag Colonization Thread [Re: biologys]
#14158420 - 03/21/11 09:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rut ro Bio...You've got a little green guy growing in there...just in front of the closest piece of poly...I'm sure you saw him anyways...just an FYI if you hadn't
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biologys
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lol yep, funny part is everyone claims if properly pasteurized it'll kill any seed's, well I pasteurized at 160-175 for 60 minutes, and he still managed to come up! and has been there since before it was fully colonized
now the sub is knotting up and got hundrends of tiny lil wite bumps forming, and he's still standing his grounds lol.
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Re: The Monotub Bag Colonization Thread [Re: Landslide]
#14158597 - 03/21/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Landslide said: So steer a noob in the right direction here.....
Now we are saying that bags might not be necessary. I get that. But what would you do if you are using for example Morelman's Modified Tub ?
Would covering the holes with micropore allow enough GE without too much AE? Or because of the small number of holes, would it be better to just leave them be open? Or am I way off with this idea?
I'd also like to see what is recommended for this.
And even though I don't yet have that green flag from you guys, I have a hybrid tub pretty much uncovered on day 3-4 of colonization. I'm curious to see what happens, even if it leads to contam hell (not that I want this...), so that I know for certain not to ever do that again.
I think the greater concern is the substrate drying out so long as everything was properly pasteurized because hpoo is pretty contam resistant, right? wrong? fail?
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