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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Ygor]
#14048955 - 03/01/11 02:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ygor said: Now, does it make sense for this group to display their insignia to the world?
If it didn't work, then McDonalds wouldn't do it.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: MushyHobo]
#14048996 - 03/01/11 02:59 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ah! But McDonalds wants you to know and recognise their brand, so that you buy more Big Macs!
What is the NWO's equivalent of a Big Mac? What is it that their brand is offering?
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Grav]
#14049006 - 03/01/11 03:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grav said: lol, you're calling Iran babies and attention-whoring? ever heard of the ADL?
wow.
nice non sequitar.
But what does that have to do with the price of tea in china? It seems like so long as their is one entity arguably more despicable then Iran you will struggle to interject it in any criticism of the later. Interestingly, you never seem to be able to offer a defense on the merits towards Iran's nonsense.
Grav: "Iran is only the second most terrible entity in any given category!" What an achievement 
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Grav said: check out their light setup
Are you not going to address the several people which have questioned your, uhm, "argument"?
You seem to make these irrelevant appeals quite a lot, and never defend them. Its hard to take your arguments seriously when you can't offer any justifcation for the things you say, and simply move on to the next bare declaration, as if pasting another pamphlet on on an allready-crowded bulletin board. We don't need pamphleteers here.
--- What is it with despotic regimes and their persecution complexes? They never seem to be able to realize that some people don't like aggressive, despotic, dishonest, and criminal states, and instead must construct some elaborate cultural crusade as the reason for their alleged persecution.
This present example is about as crazy as North Korean media releases, speaking of the "imperialist aggressors" that somehow are responsible for everything but the very liberation of their homeland and existence of their state, free from foreign occupation, in the first place. 
As another matter, what, exactly, would be the insult to Iran if the logo did say "Zion"? Its not immediately clear to me how this is of any offense to their legitimate interests... I mean, I get that they like to use the "reptillian-jewish conspiracy" as the source of all their problems, but what exactly is the connection with this logo and anything at all relevant to their state interests?
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Ygor]
#14049016 - 03/01/11 03:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ygor said: Ah! But McDonalds wants you to know and recognise their brand, so that you buy more Big Macs!
What is the NWO's equivalent of a Big Mac? What is it that their brand is offering?
Dude, if you don't see it when it's laid plainly out in front of you, you'll just never get it. Maybe you don't want to? Maybe you don't feel like you are allowed to? Poe's Law is irrefutable, after all.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: MushyHobo]
#14049061 - 03/01/11 03:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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MushyHobo said: Dude, if you don't see it when it's laid plainly out in front of you, you'll just never get it. Maybe you don't want to? Maybe you don't feel like you are allowed to? Poe's Law is irrefutable, after all.
Who is Poe? What is his law?! Why is everyone being so inscrutable? Why are all the questions being answered with more questions?!
I'm confused, nervous and afraid...
Is that what they want..?
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Ygor]
#14049074 - 03/01/11 03:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're starting to get it, brother.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Shins]
#14049144 - 03/01/11 03:28 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shins said: Lol how about you face reality instead?
Iran knows all about the Zionist NWO stuff.
Not nearly as much as London however 
Is getting hard for you to keep up with the denial?
"shove it to the conspiracy forum! that makes it untrue! and i can keep denying it"
It's staring you in the face man, take off your shades.
You can only keep pushing it to "conspiracy theory" for so long...
It is a highly relevant political issue, face it.

hahahahaha
That was a laugh.
Don't troll, Why is it a laugh?
Can't you fathom an intelligent response?
Is laughing just your fight or flight responses?
Mainly, flight?
That was funny dude.
Seriously.
The shove it in the conspiracy forum thing was jokes.
I feel like that with a number of subjects.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Ygor]
#14049651 - 03/01/11 04:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ygor said:
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MushyHobo said: Dude, if you don't see it when it's laid plainly out in front of you, you'll just never get it. Maybe you don't want to? Maybe you don't feel like you are allowed to? Poe's Law is irrefutable, after all.
Who is Poe? What is his law?! Why is everyone being so inscrutable? Why are all the questions being answered with more questions?!
I'm confused, nervous and afraid...
Is that what they want..?
They want your soul, and they want the world.
They want to do what they want.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Shins]
#14049717 - 03/01/11 04:59 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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If they got my soul, what would they do with it?
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Shins]
#14049742 - 03/01/11 05:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wait a minute. I thought the Zionists were just another branch of the Tea Party, but I looked it up because I started getting confused...
...that's fuckin' retarted dude.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Shins]
#14050019 - 03/01/11 05:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shins said: Guess what religion the founders of the Company that designed to logo are?
Guess who's father was a free mason and encouraged his son to become one?
Jehovah's Witnesses?
Prince?
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Shins]
#14050030 - 03/01/11 05:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't troll, Why is it a laugh?
Can't you fathom an intelligent response?
Is laughing just your fight or flight responses?
Mainly, flight?
This word. It does not mean what you think it means.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Ygor]
#14050352 - 03/01/11 06:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ygor said: Ah! But McDonalds wants you to know and recognise their brand, so that you buy more Big Macs!
What is the NWO's equivalent of a Big Mac? What is it that their brand is offering?
This brings up another interesting point.
Symbols have no inherent meaning, only the meaning we give them. The McDonalds logo is only effective because we associate it with McDonalds.
If you didnt know that it symbolized McDonalds it wouldnt have much effect on you.
So what good is it to put Illuminati symbols everywhere if the large majority of the population has no idea what the meaning of them is? Its the equivalent of making up your own language, telling no one what it is, and then broadcasting messages in it to the world.
Which brings us to another problem, how do you know these symbols mean what they mean? Lets toy with the idea that someone deliberately designed the Olympic lights so they looked like pyramids with eyes(Electricians are in on the conspiracy. Trust no one.), how do you know it symbolizes the "Illuminati" or "NWO"?
For all you know it could be a secret cabal of polka dancers who like to send super secret messages to each other for fun.
tl;dr
THERES FLUORIDE IN THE WATER DRINK CAFFEINATED DRINKS INSTEAD.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: TGRR] 1
#14050452 - 03/01/11 06:57 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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TGRR said:
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Don't troll, Why is it a laugh?
Can't you fathom an intelligent response?
Is laughing just your fight or flight responses?
Mainly, flight?
This word. It does not mean what you think it means.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Shins]
#14050500 - 03/01/11 07:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shins said: Don't troll, Why is it a laugh?
Can't you fathom an intelligent response?
Is laughing just your fight or flight responses?
Mainly, flight?
An interesting demand, as you have not met your burden. Whatever the degree of hilarity your various claims have, the fact remains you've not established the veracity of this bizzare Iranian claim, your defense of it, and your constant allusion to some jewish conspiracy to do.... something (what do they do exactly? I mean, they're already in Palestine)
About all I hear is vague assurances of some jewish plot, very little on the specifics or any reasonable suggestion it could be true- beyond the zionist nonsense... I think we've pretty much established there are indeed some jews in palestine
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: johnm214]
#14050914 - 03/01/11 08:26 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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johnm214 said:
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Shins said: Don't troll, Why is it a laugh?
Can't you fathom an intelligent response?
Is laughing just your fight or flight responses?
Mainly, flight?
An interesting demand, as you have not met your burden. Whatever the degree of hilarity your various claims have, the fact remains you've not established the veracity of this bizzare Iranian claim, your defense of it, and your constant allusion to some jewish conspiracy to do.... something (what do they do exactly? I mean, they're already in Palestine)
About all I hear is vague assurances of some jewish plot, very little on the specifics or any reasonable suggestion it could be true- beyond the zionist nonsense... I think we've pretty much established there are indeed some jews in palestine 
Not Jewish, Zionist.
What im talking about is the evolution of groups like The knights of malta, Priority of sion, knights templar, Freemasons, Jesuts etc. etc., all of those networks of esoteric, occult crusader secret societies.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Shins]
#14050958 - 03/01/11 08:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shins said: What im talking about is the evolution of groups like The knights of malta, Priority of sion, knights templar, Freemasons, Jesuts etc. etc., all of those networks of esoteric, occult crusader secret societies.
I heard that after Dan Brown done wrote his book, these guys knocked upon his door and said, "Why did you publish all of our secrets?" And he never saw them again.
Makes you think though, doesn't it? It's a strange world, stranger
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Ygor]
#14051036 - 03/01/11 08:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ygor said: Let us approach this in a logical manner.
First, assume that there is a shadowy organisation in ultimate control of what we call "Western Civilisation".
To me this is no different than assuming there is organized crime. There is inevitably going to be power at the top of any society or organization that moves above any system of checks and balances. Anyone would probably admit there is corruption in large police forces where they do secretive things to gain power or profits. What is any different about military, political, and financial international groups?
And if this elite power existed before those more modern organizations came into being, don't you think they might have arranged things in their favor?
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We then assume that there are certain symbols historically associated with this group. Now, does it make sense for this group to display their insignia to the world?
Symbols do not give away anything to the uninitiated. Outwardly they just appear to be simple logos or designs. As this thread shows, people tend to laugh if you suggest there is a deeper meaning or connection behind them. I think media has trained society to picture a disheveled guy in a dark basement wearing a tin-foil hat with alien posters and crap everywhere, whenever they hear the word 'conspiracy'.
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Shins makes the point that this phenomenon is much the same as gangs marking their territory with graffiti. Does this analogy hold up? In the gang situation there is competition. There are several gangs, locked in a zero-sum game. Since by definition the shadowy organisation is a single group, who are they in competition with? Who are they signalling to?
think about employees in a corporation. on the one hand you are all working together as a unit, but you may cut someones throat to get into a higher position within the company.
and do you think if a street-gang managed to wipe out all of its competition that it would just cease to mark its territory? if a king conquered the entire land, he'd still want to display his banner throughout his kingdom right?
so what else could these symbols be for? what's the deal with name-brands? they are just simple logos, but they attract people, sometimes millions of people, to buy the products associated with them. i dunno about you, but to me that seems like some significant power over the consciousness.
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The only people who notice all these myriad signs and symbols that the NWO leaves around are rabid conspiracy theorists*.
you don't notice them? they're everywhere.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Atomsk]
#14051234 - 03/01/11 09:17 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ygor said: Ah! But McDonalds wants you to know and recognise their brand, so that you buy more Big Macs!
What is the NWO's equivalent of a Big Mac? What is it that their brand is offering?
This brings up another interesting point.
Symbols have no inherent meaning, only the meaning we give them. The McDonalds logo is only effective because we associate it with McDonalds.
If you didnt know that it symbolized McDonalds it wouldnt have much effect on you.
really? okay, lets pretend you have no idea what McDonalds is. you are walking around town and you start to notice there are lots of giant golden arches everywhere. you still have no idea what the arches mean, but you will probably make the connection that whoever owns these arches also runs a lot of the space around town. when you begin visualizing the town spatially you will start to associate the golden arches as prominent landmarks. "turn left at those big gold arches, can't miss em". wouldn't you say just seeing them everywhere lends a certain degree of power to them(in terms of in your own thoughts) whether you understand what they literally represent or not?
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Which brings us to another problem, how do you know these symbols mean what they mean? Lets toy with the idea that someone deliberately designed the Olympic lights so they looked like pyramids with eyes(Electricians are in on the conspiracy. Trust no one.), how do you know it symbolizes the "Illuminati" or "NWO"?
obviously there is no proof for such a thing but for such a prominent international event, i have a hard time believing it is a coincidence.
when you see a play on the red,white, and blue military american flag design, like say in the Bank of America logo, you automatically associate it with the flag, right? It just seems like common sense because we think, well yea, the company's sort of showing its allegiance to America. So, What if I said you were foolish for making that connection, and that the designers simply liked red, white, and blue stripes because they like those colors and the stripe pattern?
and technicians build whatever the designers hand them. they don't have to be in on anything.
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Re: Iran protests Olympic logo [Re: Grav]
#14051347 - 03/01/11 09:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ygor said: Ah! But McDonalds wants you to know and recognise their brand, so that you buy more Big Macs!
What is the NWO's equivalent of a Big Mac? What is it that their brand is offering?
This brings up another interesting point.
Symbols have no inherent meaning, only the meaning we give them. The McDonalds logo is only effective because we associate it with McDonalds.
If you didnt know that it symbolized McDonalds it wouldnt have much effect on you.
really? okay, lets pretend you have no idea what McDonalds is. you are walking around town and you start to notice there are lots of giant golden arches everywhere. you still have no idea what the arches mean, but you will probably make the connection that whoever owns these arches also runs a lot of the space around town. when you begin visualizing the town spatially you will start to associate the golden arches as prominent landmarks. "turn left at those big gold arches, can't miss em". wouldn't you say just seeing them everywhere lends a certain degree of power to them(in terms of in your own thoughts) whether you understand what they literally represent or not?
I have no idea what the hell youre rambling on about. I keep combing through this post looking for something resembling a coherent thought, but to no avail.
How does what you said related to my statement in any way? Even if the arches in your scenario had a sort of "power" its certainly not the kind of power that would justify all the effort of putting them up.
Also the arches are kind of different from these illuminati symbols in that they are wide out in the open for everyone to see. The zionist symbols youve seen so far are hidden and have to be searched for(the olympic symbol, the lighting ect.)
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