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    #1404363 - 03/23/03 09:02 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well in Politcal Discussion, or whatever we're calling it this days, we were discussing what is needed for a peaceful world in this thread. In this thread I posted this:

What is the need to carry on survival? This is something I've never understood. But I do agree with the space program part. I just don't understand the human race's wet dream of surviving forever. It isn't natural. Don't fight extinction.

Just kinda wondering everyone's thoughts I guess.

"A study of the history of opinion is a necessary preliminary to the emancipation of the mind. I do not know which makes a man more conservative-to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past." -John Maynard Keynes

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Re: Survival [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404376 - 03/23/03 09:07 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I dont believe in-it isnt natural- :grin:
checking out the thread now..

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Re: Survival [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404440 - 03/23/03 09:45 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

WoW man you guys are depressing over there :blush:

Of course there is nothing wrong with making conclusions on a scenario by logically acessing the facts.
just make sure you have the facts!
I see people constantly state things such as " I dont believe because look at the facts. "
well what do they mean "the facts" ?

we are born with a brain which grasps logic, and I do say we were "meant" to use it.
so indeed if we are just a universal "accident" a mean result from a mean universe, it is fair to logically take the facts and come to the conclusion that it is pointless.

I would rather say - a strange result from a strange universe-
you have probally heard the expression " the only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain at all "
On a mental level I completely agree with that.

But there is something deeper..
somewhere inside me I am sure about something..what was it..ah yes that I KNOW.

What do I know? that I KNOW.

that is all, no details. everything may come from the source but it is a afterthought.

now obviously belief is not enough for us humans.. as I said above we have a brain for a reason.
I think before anyone jumps to a conclusion about hmmm lets see..the greatest question ever asked!
they should be able to say they have seen ALL.

This is why I believe in a balance of logic and faith, you may also call it doubt and faith(although it doesnt translate well :wink:)

I would like it to be a nice dualistic symetrical balance, but the truth is faith will always have the one-up on doubt for me. Why?
As odd as it sounds TRUTH (as some see it) is not that important.
I can not give up. whatever is shown to be true it does not effect my will to be. What I am is true. what I know is true, simply by me knowing it I have made it true.
As long as one person will not give in to the negative, depressing, seemingly true cold hard truth that the article " SATAN ON WAR " seems to ( although a bit melodramatically ) sum up, then we will go on..

I cant go on, I must go on , I will go on   

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