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Re: Iranian Overthrow of Governmen - Imminence or Transience? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14060687 - 03/03/11 03:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Your sole justification for it being "forced" was that it "involved common  sense".  Absent any other justification, what else can you offer us to establish that they were, in fact, "forced" to do it?  You were either derelict or incompetent.  Choose one.  Oh yeah.  Owned.




Now we are reduced to name calling.




derelict and incompetent are adjectives, not nouns.
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Well, I suppose your lack of argument is the cause of that. How do you think it would work if a nation decided to shoot off nuclear fireworks? MAD is a very real possibility. You see, and let me know if I start using words that are too big for you, Nukes are only a deterrent if they are not used.




They are only a deterrent if there is a chance they will be used.  Otherwise they are museum pieces.  Curios.
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We and other nations have nuclear arsenals to insure nukes aren't used against us. A large part of why they work as a deterrent is because everyone who has them understands the possibilities. If a nation suddenly decided to use nukes then the whole deterrent thing kind of collapses.




Well yes, obviously, then they would have failed to deter.  Duh.
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So you see, if our government decided to use nukes as an offensive weapon then they have violated their oaths to keep our borders safe. The swearing in oath. So, yes, making the correct choice in this case is "forced" on them.



:rofl2:That's a fucking scream.  The only choices are nukes or bribes?  My you have no imagination at all.
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But if you really want we can roll around in the mud and call each other names and argue semantics.




I have already semantically demolished your whinge that meany ZIG called widdle Tinker a name. 
Semantics is about meaning.  If a bunch of jerkoffs wants to redefine the entire concept of compulsion, as represented here by the word "forced", then it loses all distinction from choice and expedience.  Words used to have meaning............in the hands of floundering debaters not so much.





Good lord. What have you done to your brain? Has it always been this way? Poor chap, can we help?

Or are you simply derelict and incompetent?

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Re: Iranian Overthrow of Governmen - Imminence or Transience? [Re: TheThinker]
    #14060693 - 03/03/11 03:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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TheThinker said:
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zappaisgod said:
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TheThinker said:
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zappaisgod said:
Your sole justification for it being "forced" was that it "involved common  sense".  Absent any other justification, what else can you offer us to establish that they were, in fact, "forced" to do it?  You were either derelict or incompetent.  Choose one.  Oh yeah.  Owned.




Now we are reduced to name calling.




derelict and incompetent are adjectives, not nouns.
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Well, I suppose your lack of argument is the cause of that. How do you think it would work if a nation decided to shoot off nuclear fireworks? MAD is a very real possibility. You see, and let me know if I start using words that are too big for you, Nukes are only a deterrent if they are not used.




They are only a deterrent if there is a chance they will be used.  Otherwise they are museum pieces.  Curios.
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We and other nations have nuclear arsenals to insure nukes aren't used against us. A large part of why they work as a deterrent is because everyone who has them understands the possibilities. If a nation suddenly decided to use nukes then the whole deterrent thing kind of collapses.




Well yes, obviously, then they would have failed to deter.  Duh.
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So you see, if our government decided to use nukes as an offensive weapon then they have violated their oaths to keep our borders safe. The swearing in oath. So, yes, making the correct choice in this case is "forced" on them.



:rofl2:That's a fucking scream.  The only choices are nukes or bribes?  My you have no imagination at all.
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But if you really want we can roll around in the mud and call each other names and argue semantics.




I have already semantically demolished your whinge that meany ZIG called widdle Tinker a name. 
Semantics is about meaning.  If a bunch of jerkoffs wants to redefine the entire concept of compulsion, as represented here by the word "forced", then it loses all distinction from choice and expedience.  Words used to have meaning............in the hands of floundering debaters not so much.





Good lord. What have you done to your brain? Has it always been this way? Poor chap, can we help?

Or are you simply derelict and incompetent?



Excellent rejoinder, Kurt.:thumbup:


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Re: Iranian Overthrow of Governmen - Imminence or Transience? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14060711 - 03/03/11 03:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Just keeping it on your level zapp

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Re: Iranian Overthrow of Governmen - Imminence or Transience? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
    #14060904 - 03/03/11 03:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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No point keeping this open. It long ago abandoned any semblance of relevance, civility, or interest.

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