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I cant do shrooms anymore...
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I dunno why.
I got this fear of shrooms. I developed it over a few years. I just tried to do 0.25g 15 mins ago... Barfed cause anxiety kicked in.
I dunno what the fuck is the problem. 0.25 dammit!!! I wouldnt of felt it!
Its stupid, I did one bad trip once and for some reason thats all I can link mushrooms to. I did some after that bad trip and shit went fine. I just can't forget the bad one. Its stupid cause the bad part was because I smoked too much weed during the trip... Is anyone else in a similar situation? Perhaps its my body telling me, please stay sober...
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Patlal]
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You might try drinking a beer or 2 (no more than that), or take a xanax, or other benzo, or smoke some weed before. Or maybe you just need to take a break.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said: You might try drinking a beer or 2 (no more than that), or take a xanax, or other benzo, or smoke some weed before. Or maybe you just need to take a break.
havent done shrooms in like 2 or 3 years. Perhaps the body is tired of the weed and booze...
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Patlal]
#14041464 - 02/28/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've gotten the heebie-jeebies from the shrooms too, and also the DMT. Never got it from LSD, which is weird because more than any other psychedelic that is the one I've come closest to "abusing."
You have two options: one, take a break until your fear goes away. This doesn't always work and might just make you more anxious since you forget how awesome the shrooms are but continue to remember how scary they can be. This has happened to me.
Two: have a beer or two before you take the shrooms. This always works for me. You don't have to get drunk or keep drinking after the come-up because IME that's the only part that is so inherently scary.
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the come up can be like 
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Yeah, I think I fear the come up the most.
I always got that weird ass feeling after like 20 mins when it was starting to hit me... I feel fuzzy, hot/cold with and feeling of anxiety mixed with a 'fuck im in this for 6 hours'
The come up feels like remorse or regret...
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Salomon]
#14041489 - 02/28/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pop some ativan beforehand.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Patlal]
#14041493 - 02/28/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patlal said: I dunno why.
I got this fear of shrooms. I developed it over a few years. I just tried to do 0.25g 15 mins ago... Barfed cause anxiety kicked in.
I dunno what the fuck is the problem. 0.25 dammit!!! I wouldnt of felt it!
Its stupid, I did one bad trip once and for some reason thats all I can link mushrooms to. I did some after that bad trip and shit went fine. I just can't forget the bad one. Its stupid cause the bad part was because I smoked too much weed during the trip... Is anyone else in a similar situation? Perhaps its my body telling me, please stay sober...
What about with another psychedelic?
In particular, cactus comes to mind. Very mellow. Gives you a lot of time to work through your thoughts.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Salomon]
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I've been taking psychedelics for about 20 years, and always get that twinge of "OMG, what did I just do?" when I take them, but never to the point of vomiting. I think I actually get it a little more now than I did when I was younger.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: nicechrisman]
#14041514 - 02/28/11 12:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: I've been taking psychedelics for about 20 years, and always get that twinge of "OMG, what did I just do?" when I take them, but never to the point of vomiting. I think I actually get it a little more now than I did when I was younger.
To be honest... I made myself vomit due to that 'omg what the fuck did i do feeling' I just cant cope with it.
As for other psychedelics, well heres a list of drugs I did:
Weed (awesome) Hash (dont really 'feel' it) Hash oil (crap) Shrooms (Used to be cool... now its very uncool)
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Patlal]
#14041541 - 02/28/11 12:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I really don't think taking more drugs to be able to take mushrooms is a good idea.
I have had a real bad trip as well so I took a few years off.
When you feel confident and are in a better head space take them then.
Maybe mushrooms aren't for you anymore it happens.
Maybe try less of a mind-fuck in San Pedro cactus??? Good luck.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Patlal]
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: dynomite]
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Patlal]
#14041575 - 02/28/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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perhaps your ego is defending you 
I always get a sense of "oh god, what'd i do!" but it's not too big of a deal. I'm susceptable to vasoconstriction sometimes as well, adds some extra nervousness, kinda sucks. A hit of poppers every 20 minutes or so though handles that fine. Cold weather tripping ftl
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Patlal]
#14041603 - 02/28/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: I've been taking psychedelics for about 20 years, and always get that twinge of "OMG, what did I just do?" when I take them, but never to the point of vomiting. I think I actually get it a little more now than I did when I was younger.
To be honest... I made myself vomit due to that 'omg what the fuck did i do feeling' I just cant cope with it.
As for other psychedelics, well heres a list of drugs I did:
Weed (awesome) Hash (dont really 'feel' it) Hash oil (crap) Shrooms (Used to be cool... now its very uncool)
If you think weed is awesome but you don't even feel hash or think hash oil is crap...then you must be getting some really crappy stuff. It just doesn't make sense. I don't like to trip on shrooms anymore. I used to take a lot of shrooms and acid but I feel like I've grown out of it.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Patlal]
#14041661 - 02/28/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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try a phenethylamine. Preferably mescaline, I ran into the same set of problems, until I found my compounds of choice 
phenethyalmines, chiefly mescaline, arent so discombobulating, anxiety ridden, ego dissolving, and confusing. Not to say shrooms are bad, just different strokes for different folks.
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nicechrisman said: I've been taking psychedelics for about 20 years, and always get that twinge of "OMG, what did I just do?" when I take them, but never to the point of vomiting. I think I actually get it a little more now than I did when I was younger.
To be honest... I made myself vomit due to that 'omg what the fuck did i do feeling' I just cant cope with it.
As for other psychedelics, well heres a list of drugs I did:
Weed (awesome) Hash (dont really 'feel' it) Hash oil (crap) Shrooms (Used to be cool... now its very uncool)
If you think weed is awesome but you don't even feel hash or think hash oil is crap...then you must be getting some really crappy stuff. It just doesn't make sense. I don't like to trip on shrooms anymore. I used to take a lot of shrooms and acid but I feel like I've grown out of it.
word.. good hash is sooo awesome! i love bubble in particular.. the smell is amazing.. and for the shrooms.. you just gotta relax and have the time alloted in advance and know everything is gonna be fine.. if you take them without a clear, willing mind your just asking for a bad trip.. if you really want to trip tell yourself "i really wanna trip" and go for the ride..
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: wow]
#14041733 - 02/28/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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nicechrisman said: I've been taking psychedelics for about 20 years, and always get that twinge of "OMG, what did I just do?" when I take them, but never to the point of vomiting. I think I actually get it a little more now than I did when I was younger.
To be honest... I made myself vomit due to that 'omg what the fuck did i do feeling' I just cant cope with it.
As for other psychedelics, well heres a list of drugs I did:
Weed (awesome) Hash (dont really 'feel' it) Hash oil (crap) Shrooms (Used to be cool... now its very uncool)
If you think weed is awesome but you don't even feel hash or think hash oil is crap...then you must be getting some really crappy stuff. It just doesn't make sense. I don't like to trip on shrooms anymore. I used to take a lot of shrooms and acid but I feel like I've grown out of it.
word.. good hash is sooo awesome! i love bubble in particular.. the smell is amazing.. and for the shrooms.. you just gotta relax and have the time alloted in advance and know everything is gonna be fine.. if you take them without a clear, willing mind your just asking for a bad trip.. if you really want to trip tell yourself "i really wanna trip" and go for the ride..
Yeah I dont know what with hash and hash oil with me.
When my buddies get some hash and invite me, we all take like 4 or 5 hits and they are stoned out of their minds and I'm like 'thats it?'
I feel the high but its too 'clean' of a high, after 10 minutes I forget i'm high and I feel somewhat sober.
Perhaps some of the chemicals filtered out of the hash making process is what I love to feel.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Patlal]
#14041794 - 02/28/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeh i feel ya... you definately gotta smoke the hash separate from weed but together.. i use an ash and put a lump of hash on the ash and light it on fire when its good and burning i put the flame out and cover it with a bottle and it continues to smoke inside the bottle until its spent.. then take the cap off and suck it up! but you gotta be high on bud first.. it works good alone if its bubble but its always a better "add on" it gets you suuuper high.. but yeh there are alot of other thc analogues that are in the actual plant matter itself.. but if done right its definately more potent..
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Patlal]
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when it comes to Tripping (LSD vs Mushrooms) in my experience, i find Mushrooms to be more Therapeutic and LSD more Recreational. when i take Mushrooms (depending apon strain) i more often over-analyze my life, break myself down and put myself back together over and over again. it can be anxious and intense, but a great way to find yourself and/or find out something new about yourself. Mushrooms for me are only for certain occasions and not meant for just any situation. i must also be emotionally prepared to take Mushrooms whereas LSD (for me) i can take anyday/anytime/anywhere. i have grown to respect the Fungi a lot.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: bbl337]
#14041914 - 02/28/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm susceptable to vasoconstriction sometimes as well, adds some extra nervousness, kinda sucks. A hit of poppers every 20 minutes or so though handles that fine.
Excellent selfmedication FTW! Really, bravo. I'm a cardiac patient and always have a nitroglycerin spray bottle on hand, to administer one puff sublingually in case of angina pectoris.
This spray bottle gets passed around the trip group if we're tripping on a drug with a high degree of vasoconstriction, such as Mescaline or TMA-6. Theres no point suffering vasoconstriction when a perfecty benign puff of nitro every 1-2 hours keeps it in check.
If thats how you use it, I like to recommend you to switch from poppers (nitrite) to a sublingual nitrate. These come as tiny tablets to let melt under the tongue, or as a sublingual spray tasting of foul peppermint.
These intervention nitrates are nonprescription in many countries because they have zero recreational value, are very safe and save tons of lives, as cardiovascular disease is a primary cause of death. Internet Pharmacies often carry them.
I've given out these bottles to my elderly relatives, with instruction how to use in case of sudden onset central chest pain (immediately preceding dialing 911), and most of my friends have a bottle too, in case I forget mine or if they or their visitors should have a cardiovascular event. I really feel every home's first aid kit should have sublingual nitro in some form or other, as immediate use of it can prevent many heart attacks from happening.
I feel its MANDATORY for people using cocaine or amphetamines to have this medicine. Most stimulant heart attacks especially in young people are caused by coronary vasoconstriction and/or coronary vasospasm, conditions often completely reversible with nitro, which can make the difference between getting away with a scare and a headache, or ending up on the coroners slab.
Nitrite poppers can have the same effect, but they usually give an unpleasant headrush and throbbing headache as they are very hard to dose, their effect is more acute but also more transient.
 
Oh and OP - if you swallow 0.25gr of shrooms them induce vomiting because of remorse I would strongly suggest you to work through your anxiety issues before dosing again. This has nothing to do with the mushrooms and everything with you getting anxiety attacks even thinking of tripping. Disregarding this level of anxiety by tripping nonetheless could lead to you having a bad trip thats actually damaging to you, others, or the interior of the room your are tripping in.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Asante]
#14042173 - 02/28/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I thought nitroglycerin was explosive? That's what the movie Vertical Limit taught me.
OP, I am the same way. I suggest you read the book Tripping by Charles Hayes. It is a collection of experiences and a lot of people in there have good life views that are starting to change my anxiety about tripping. I haven't tried again yet, because I'm not quite ready, but the time will be right soon. Don't try to jump into it, you have to work out your anxiety before you go back into this experience. I extracted a half gram of DMT a while ago, tried it once and then gave the rest away because it told me I wasn't ready until I worked on myself more. I can post some of the good quotes from the book up here sometime tomorrow if anybody wants to read them, although I recommend the whole book. It is one of the best books on psychedelics that I have read.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: bryguy27007]
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Nitroglycerin is extremely explosive, but also a vasodilator. They solve it by dissolving it in a solvent so that it loses the ability to transmit a detonation wave, but if you spray into an open flame its like a jet exhaust as combustion is clearly enhanced 
The pills often contain pentaerythritol tetranitrate which our resident marines and explosives engineers immediately recognize as PETN.
Yup, many of these are industrial/military high explosives, purified to pharmaceutical grade, then diluted with an inert filler to render them nonexplosive.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Asante]
#14042821 - 02/28/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Nitroglycerin is extremely explosive, but also a vasodilator. They solve it by dissolving it in a solvent so that it loses the ability to transmit a detonation wave, but if you spray into an open flame its like a jet exhaust as combustion is clearly enhanced 
The pills often contain pentaerythritol tetranitrate which our resident marines and explosives engineers immediately recognize as PETN.
Yup, many of these are industrial/military high explosives, purified to pharmaceutical grade, then diluted with an inert filler to render them nonexplosive.
That contained a lot of good information, but not enough to make me feel comfortable putting some of that in my body. It sounds like it would be good to have around though.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: bryguy27007]
#14042891 - 02/28/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The come up is hellish for some people, me included. Although it's not so much fear -- there is a nice presence of anxiety for me but more than anything I have these utterly ridiculous coughing/gagging spells on the come up. It's like part cough, part gag, and part burp (drinking though is probably the cause of the latter).
I'll do it like every 5 minutes for the first hour or hour and a half of the trip. Seriously. It's fucking horrible.
But after I pay that price the rest of my night is  
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: Niffla]
#14042915 - 02/28/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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smoked TOO much weed during a trip?
it always seems i cant smoke enough on a trip now adays, but i remember doing this on some of my earlier trips
super sorry you cant do mushies anymore man, meditation and facing your fears might help
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14042945 - 02/28/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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and god damn wiccan that was a good post.
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Re: I cant do shrooms anymore... [Re: realfuzzhead]
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For me it's about half and half anxiety with some horrible form of nausea that I've only ever gotten on shrooms. It's not like a regular stomach ache, or like getting nauseous or even puking on other psychedelics. It's a very bottomless kind of nausea, if you get what I mean. It subsides after an hour or so but it's usually really bad at first. I hate it.
I didn't get it when I ate the mushies I grew myself, so it could just be a freshness thing and actually involve the stomach physically, but it's still a totally crazy-ass kind of nausea I just never want to deal with.
Benadryl seems to help, though.
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yes that occurs with my shroom eating sessions most regularly, if i make a tea or eat them fresh or make chocolated I dont notice the nausea as much
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