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What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world?
    #1404127 - 03/23/03 07:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? It seems that with exploding populations and instant communications, the world is getting smaller all the time. Can we survive as separate entities and effectively isolationist countries? Or as scarry as it is, will a world government of sorts be necessary? If some form of world government is needed, what model should be used? Who should lead the charge?

I think these are important questions confronting mankind in the near future.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1404137 - 03/23/03 07:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I think we should let the repressive murderous governments thrive no matter how deadly of a threat to the world they are. Closing our eyes and ears and being blind to the future is the way to go!!!!


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: Murex]
    #1404175 - 03/23/03 07:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yea, on some level i could agree, but on another i say fuck that.

as easy as it is to play dumb, and live in your own little world, it is not what is needed. people should be aware of the fact that every voice matters. and those who choose not to use their voices are rendering themself helpless to the powers that be.
i wont let them speak for me.

the future, its is a crazy picture, but one thing is for sure, we are all in the same boat. our watchful eyes are only clouded windows for us to try and see through, what we need is some fucking windex. haha.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: mike]
    #1404181 - 03/23/03 07:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I think Murex was being facetious.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1404182 - 03/23/03 07:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I am waiting for Silversoul to lay out his plan for the future.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1404205 - 03/23/03 07:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Very well, then. Here goes:

Since we've already begun invading Iraq, I suppose there's no other option than to stick with the plan, as unfortunate as it may be. With any luck, Bush won't get re-elected, and the new president will help sever the broken ties with the Muslim world. We give more funding to research for alternative fuels so that we're less dependent on oil. We should never again start a pre-emptive strike, or any other wars of aggression. We get the FBI to do their fucking job so we can prevent another 9/11. Oh ya, and repeal the Patriot Act.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the worl [Re: Murex]
    #1404208 - 03/23/03 07:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i think we should save people from being chewed up, swallowed, regurgitated, and spat out by the propaganda machine


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1404212 - 03/23/03 07:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Since we've already begun invading Iraq, I suppose there's no other option than to stick with the plan, as unfortunate as it may be. With any luck, Bush won't get re-elected, and the new president will help sever the broken ties with the Muslim world. We give more funding to research for alternative fuels so that we're less dependent on oil. We should never again start a pre-emptive strike, or any other wars of aggression. We get the FBI to do their fucking job so we can prevent another 9/11. Oh ya, and repeal the Patriot Act.

I like this.  :blush:


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1404258 - 03/23/03 08:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Mankind will destroy itself. I believe this is inevitable. Either through war or polution. Either that or the earth will realize that we are too stupid to exist any longer and create some sort of incuarable super-bug and wipe us out. As far as peace, it will never exist. There will be periods in which the masses are convinced that we are at peace. Peace is the ideology of the moron, of the simple minded. Nature is a constant battle for power. Geopolitical existance is no different.

Thesis->Antithesis->Synthesis->Thesis->Antithesis->Synthesis->Thesis->Antithesis->Synthesis->Thesis->Antithesis->Synthesis->Thesis->Antithesis->Synthesis->

Until the end of the world.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: Murex]
    #1404293 - 03/23/03 08:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Since we've already begun invading Iraq, I suppose there's no other option than to stick with the plan, as unfortunate as it may be. With any luck, Bush won't get re-elected, and the new president will help sever the broken ties with the Muslim world. We give more funding to research for alternative fuels so that we're less dependent on oil. We should never again start a pre-emptive strike, or any other wars of aggression. We get the FBI to do their fucking job so we can prevent another 9/11. Oh ya, and repeal the Patriot Act.

I like this.  :blush: 




I like it too. But does it mean that you think we can get along as seperate entities, or is some sort of world governance unavoidable to avoid MAD?


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404304 - 03/23/03 08:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Mankind will destroy itself. I believe this is inevitable. Either through war or polution. Either that or the earth will realize that we are too stupid to exist any longer and create some sort of incuarable super-bug and wipe us out. As far as peace, it will never exist. There will be periods in which the masses are convinced that we are at peace. Peace is the ideology of the moron, of the simple minded. Nature is a constant battle for power. Geopolitical existance is no different.

Thesis->Antithesis->Synthesis->Thesis->Antithesis->Synthesis->Thesis->Antithesis->Synthesis->Thesis->Antithesis->Synthesis->Thesis->Antithesis->Synthesis->

Until the end of the world.




I agree with this aswell. That is why I think we need to support the space program. It might be a dream but I think it is possible. To spread out beyond this planet is the only way to ensure our survival. Aside from ourselves, an astroid collision is a matter of when not if.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1404310 - 03/23/03 08:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

What is the need to carry on survival? This is something I've never understood. But I do agree with the space program part. I just don't understand the human race's wet dream of surviving forever. It isn't natural. Don't fight extinction.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404327 - 03/23/03 08:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I just don't understand the human race's wet dream of surviving forever. It isn't natural. Don't fight extinction.

If we can survive, then we will prove that we have evolved enough to be a race that should be given the title of great.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404337 - 03/23/03 08:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If we don't survive than all the suffering was for not. It is to incredible to let it go to waste.



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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: Murex]
    #1404339 - 03/23/03 08:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

lol


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1404346 - 03/23/03 08:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

But to continue existing is to continue suffering. I guess I don't believe that humans can be perfected and that there will always be suffering. There will always be rich, always be poor. Always be powerful. Always be meak. Always be tyranical. Always be compassionate. I see no use in continuing to exist. Perhaps I should take this to S&PS.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404352 - 03/23/03 08:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I see no use in continuing to exist.

You give up too easy. What a shame.


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the worl [Re: silversoul7]
    #1404365 - 03/23/03 09:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Good post silversoul. The concept of pre-emptive strike should go in the history as something that will never happen again. But now there is no other choice than that the USA win this war quickly.
But what if the war turns out long and bloody? What if the protesters overthrow the pro-american governments in arab countries? What if Bush gets reelected? And I don't doubt that the terrorists are getting many new recrutes.
There will be no peace in the near future. :frown:

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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: Murex]
    #1404372 - 03/23/03 09:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well not me personally :wink: But....grrr. I guess this really boils down to the point of life eh? But I think as a whole humans want there to be a purpose for our existance. I just don't believe in one. 


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Re: What is needed to ensure the peaceful future of the world? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404378 - 03/23/03 09:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I agree but I think that the big picture is a beautiful
one worth living. The good and the bad are one in the same.


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