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OfflineMurex
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To those who are against the war.....
    #1404061 - 03/23/03 06:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You all remind me of spoiled children getting upset at their parents for no rational reason. Please stop taking freedom for granted. Try to put the pieces tougether by understanding Iraq and it's history.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: Murex]
    #1404070 - 03/23/03 06:54 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Naa, they just don't understand the real world. They need to get out and see it and experience the different types of ppl out there.


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It provides for all people
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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: Murex]
    #1404072 - 03/23/03 06:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You mean freedom comes with a price? I had no idea! :grin:


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: Murex]
    #1404073 - 03/23/03 06:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I'm upset because of the backlash this will create. We are putting ourselves at greater risk to terrorism than before. This war definitely doesn't help our image as an imperialist power bent on world domination. By the way, I cherish freedom very much, which is why I hate the fact that this administration has used wartime hysteria to pass legislation like the Patriot Act in order to subvert us.

Edit: You remind of those people who actually believe that weed supports terrorism.


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Edited by silversoul7 (03/23/03 06:58 PM)


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: silversoul7]
    #1404075 - 03/23/03 06:56 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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By the way, I cherish freedom very much, which is why I hate the fact that this administration has used wartime hysteria to pass legislation like the Patriot Act in order to subvert us.




I disagree with you on many issues, but I agree with you about this.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: silversoul7]
    #1404079 - 03/23/03 06:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

This war definitely doesn't help our image as an imperialist power bent on world domination

Why should we be scared about what others think of us? I know for a fact that we will never dominate the world.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: Murex]
    #1404083 - 03/23/03 07:00 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

This war definitely doesn't help our image as an imperialist power bent on world domination

Why should we be scared about what others think of us?




You're kidding, right?


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404090 - 03/23/03 07:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You're kidding, right?

No.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: Murex]
    #1404092 - 03/23/03 07:02 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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This war definitely doesn't help our image as an imperialist power bent on world domination

Why should we be scared about what others think of us? I know for a fact that we will never dominate the world.



It's not just what they think of us. It's what they're likely to do about it. If they feel we're out to conquer them all, they'll be the ones making the "pre-emptive strikes," which will make 9/11 look like nothing. Also, while we may never actually control the whole world, we are pretty close. Also, if you don't think the government is intent on controlling the world, I suggest you read about this organization . Look up who their members are. It's rather sobering to think about.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: silversoul7]
    #1404101 - 03/23/03 07:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The risk we are taking to do this only underscores how important it is that it be done. Bush is risking a second term, republican control, and Americas reputation. If things go wrong it is practically suicide. That to me doesn't jive with what people seem to think Bush's goals are.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: Murex]
    #1404104 - 03/23/03 07:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Well then allow me to point out that you are pretty ignorant if you believe that other country's opinions of the US have no bearing in international relations or politics.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1404108 - 03/23/03 07:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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The risk we are taking to do this only underscores how important it is that it be done. Bush is risking a second term, republican control, and Americas reputation. If things go wrong it is practically suicide. That to me doesn't jive with what people seem to think Bush's goals are.



That would be to assume that Bush is intelligent and knows what he's doing.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404110 - 03/23/03 07:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Well then allow me to point out that you are pretty ignorant if you believe that other country's opinions of the US have no bearing in international relations or politics.

They do. But It shouldn't make us act differently just to please them.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: Murex]
    #1404114 - 03/23/03 07:10 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Well then allow me to point out that you are pretty ignorant if you believe that other country's opinions of the US have no bearing in international relations or politics.

They do. But It shouldn't make us act differently just to please them.



To please them? No. But to prevent future terrorist attacks? Yes, I believe that is a cause worth altering our behavior for, especially when all it requires is minding our own damn business.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: silversoul7]
    #1404122 - 03/23/03 07:13 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

It's not just what they think of us. It's what they're likely to do about it. If they feel we're out to conquer them all, they'll be the ones making the "pre-emptive strikes," which will make 9/11 look like nothing. Also, while we may never actually control the whole world, we are pretty close. Also, if you don't think the government is intent on controlling the world, I suggest you read about this organization . Look up who their members are. It's rather sobering to think about.

There won't be an increase in terrorist attacks- the terrorists will still be plotting at their normal pace.

The government isn't intent on controlling the world period. No link will prove anything, or diswade my opinion.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: silversoul7]
    #1404125 - 03/23/03 07:14 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

especially when all it requires is minding our own damn business.

This IS our business!!!


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: Murex]
    #1404132 - 03/23/03 07:16 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

If I had my run of things, Murex. I'd have you executed for treason.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: silversoul7]
    #1404140 - 03/23/03 07:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Bush is not alone here. He has a lot of very intelligent people who advise him on every issue. These adviseres know more about international issues and I'm sure many are smarter that most anyone on this board. Bush is way to stipid to have made it this far without relying on other people for help.


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: Murex]
    #1404143 - 03/23/03 07:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

It's not just what they think of us. It's what they're likely to do about it. If they feel we're out to conquer them all, they'll be the ones making the "pre-emptive strikes," which will make 9/11 look like nothing. Also, while we may never actually control the whole world, we are pretty close. Also, if you don't think the government is intent on controlling the world, I suggest you read about this organization . Look up who their members are. It's rather sobering to think about.

There won't be an increase in terrorist attacks- the terrorists will still be plotting at their normal pace.



When Al Queda attacked the WTC, bin Laden took a big risk of alienating potential recruits by creating worldwide sympathy. But in the short time since then, this administration has managed to turn that sympathy around so that we are now more hated than ever before. That's why the real winner of this war will be Osama bin Laden.

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The government isn't intent on controlling the world period. No link will prove anything, or diswade my opinion.



So then you admit to being close-minded?


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Re: To those who are against the war..... [Re: Zahid]
    #1404145 - 03/23/03 07:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Treason? WTF?  :confused:


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