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Small Terrarium Experiment*Update*
    #14040200 - 02/28/11 02:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Recently, I have had the interest to experiment with small terrariums. I have a few colonized PF cakes to use for this venture. I will be using two of these containers:

They have a 5"X5" base and are 6" in height.

My thoughts are to make a mini MSG type of deal with one, and then a small scale perlite FC with the other one. For the MSG, I will crumble PF cakes, and have maybe one hole one each side at substrate depth, as well as one near the top, stuffed with polyfill. (Similar to this thread posted a while ago).

For the other FC, I will have 3-4 holes in each side, including the bottom, with a thin layer of perlite and 1-2 cakes.

Any thoughts/ideas?

Also, yes I know small terrariums do not perform as well, thats not the point of this grow.


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #14040587 - 02/28/11 07:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Too small.

You can fruit a cake in a thing like that with a lot of manual work and attention.
But not worth the hassle.
And it's probably too small for bulk, certainly too shallow for a good grow.


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Doc_T]
    #14041202 - 02/28/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well shit, why won't it work? Unable to maintain humidity? What do you think the minimum volume of a viable container is?


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #14041211 - 02/28/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You're gonna need around 6" of vertical clearance from whatever substrate you're growing on. Also, a SGFC is based on ~4 inches of perlite. You wouldn't even be able to fit a cake in there, much less let it fruit.


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Masticore]
    #14041228 - 02/28/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Obviously I wouldn't be able to fit 4" of perlite, I have however seen successful grows with small amounts of perlite in a soda bottle. I don't think any holes were used. I will find the post in a minute.

EDIT:http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11595834#11595834

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12275781#12275781

I was thinking these tubs would be similar, albeit possibly too short?


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Masticore]
    #14041232 - 02/28/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

6qt dubtubs seem to do well. Never had a lot of luck smaller than that.
Totally depends on your style and growing conditions though. Try it and see what you think.


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Doc_T]
    #14041620 - 02/28/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just try it man :smile: I would flip another one on top of it and fill it full of holes. Probably as effective as a 2liter soda bottle. Whats the worst that can happen?


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: jmello]
    #14042006 - 02/28/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Haha I will. I'm definetely leaning towards a min dub tub style, as I feel it will have more volume/vertical grow room. I don't know about filling it full of holes, I'm thinking two holes near the top on the sides, maybe with polyfil so it holds its humidity. Because its so small I think it will lose humidity fast with many holes. I will have to fan it like mad though.


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #14168229 - 03/23/11 02:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok guys, heres an update on my little experiment. Going good for the most part. These types of terrariums really lack FAE and need a lot of fanning. But they seem to be doing ok. First two pics are of single cake terrarium, second two pics are of a few cakes crumbled and cased with straight verm.





The first set of pics are about 1 day from harvest of that single cake. Flush came out to about 4g dry. I'm letting a few of the other little shrooms grow out before I dunk.

The big guy in the last pic has gotten pretty damn big! Also, the shrooms in the last two pics have very solid stems, while the single cake pics have hollow stems. I remember reading this might be because of low humidity?

Anyway, just thought I would add some pics to the thread. I'll be taking more pics of the crumbled cakes once they are ready for harvest.


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #14180156 - 03/25/11 02:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Harvest day for mini tub.





The big guy (most opened cap) is the last picture in the post above, came out to 66.7 grams wet by itself. Total flush was 134 grams wet

So, it is possible to do casing/bulk in a small container, probably not the best environment but it can work!


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #14180591 - 03/25/11 06:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yay!


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Doc_T]
    #14181403 - 03/25/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:whoo: Now its time to commence :chew: --> :tripping:


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #14181484 - 03/25/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

nice grow! good point of reference for those of us with very little space or desperate need for hiding our grow! how much fanning a day did you do? some caps in early pics looked a little o2 deprived to me but seemed to finish up well.


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: shroomanxiety]
    #14181503 - 03/25/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Fanned about 5-7 times a day.


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #14181772 - 03/25/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

For your single cake terrarium, how many holes did you use? I'm using a similar setup, and having no luck with pinning. A little over 2 weeks in now, and no pins! It maintains humidity, but I'm thinking at this point it has to be FAE. Thinking about drilling some holes into it or something.


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: bystarlight]
    #14181825 - 03/25/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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For your single cake terrarium, how many holes did you use? I'm using a similar setup, and having no luck with pinning. A little over 2 weeks in now, and no pins! It maintains humidity, but I'm thinking at this point it has to be FAE. Thinking about drilling some holes into it or something.



I only had two holes and fanned alot. New hygrometer still in the mail so I wanted to make sure it maintained humidity. It would probably have been ok with a few more holes.


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Re: Small Terrarium Experiment [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #14185525 - 03/26/11 05:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for this psilocyentist... I have a small popcorn tub I filled with extra spawn/coir and I'm planning on trying something similar. I'm not home much so I'm hoping to keep a small oscillating fan on it and only using a few holes for FAE. Hope it works out like yours :cheers:


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