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Re: salvia quid [Re: floydisgod]
    #14080358 - 03/07/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ive chewed less than that of dry leaf and have visuals when the lights were off.

Onetime I had a glowing experience seemingly out of nowhere...tingly all over, neon colors, strange sensations.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14080567 - 03/07/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've got a bag of half crushed up leaves mixed with various extracts sitting in my drawer.

I'm tempted to dip in.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: x Ju x]
    #14082612 - 03/07/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I myself have dried leaf as well and all you really have to do is rehydrate them in water for a bit. You actually need less dried leaf than fresh I have heard.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14084042 - 03/07/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've been pretty interested in trying quidding for awhile but haven't bothered to buy any leaves. Would an extract work? I've read that it's not as effective and a waste of money...but if you stuck of a gram of 10x (Or whatever a good dosage would be...) in your mouth would you still get the quidding effects? I feel like salvia has a lot to offer...so i've been interested in experimenting with other methods of ingestion. Also, do you still get that odd body sensation when trying the quid method?


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Re: salvia quid [Re: Dalron]
    #14084161 - 03/07/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

May try quidding again myself... more of a fan of blunts but... I'm also a scientist and sometimes you have to sacrifice

Extract should work in a quid, its just concentrate, I would be careful not to swallow it though.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: ahchela]
    #14084511 - 03/08/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ahchela said:
May try quidding again myself... more of a fan of blunts but... I'm also a scientist and sometimes you have to sacrifice

Extract should work in a quid, its just concentrate, I would be careful not to swallow it though.




I'm interested in hearing how well a salvia blunt worked out for you? Never tried it myself.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14084587 - 03/08/11 12:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

On the first page I talk a little more in dephth about smoking salvia wrapped

Normally I'll use leaves and extract, sometimes just leaves.
With extract mixed in, its my favorite intake method.

*No OBE
*No quid taste
*No repacking bowls
*Visuals
*Altered perspective


You can always smoke a bowl of extract, followed by a blunt of leaves/extract. That pushes the point a bit.
Smoking a bowl of extract on LSD or mushies is a waste IME, but smoking a salvia blunt is just... great. You'll definitely notice the difference on a few hits of sunshine.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: ahchela]
    #14085836 - 03/08/11 09:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

When smoking leaves do you still hold in your hits for 20 seconds? Or just smoke it like a actual joint? I'm gonna do the quid again eventually, and would also like to try smoking leaf.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: floydisgod]
    #14087469 - 03/08/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is probably pretty obvious already but dried leaf salvia mixes soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking well with weed (what doesn't, right? :lol:) just a little bit of crumbled salvia sandwiched in the middle makes even schwag really fucking psychedelic.

Past 2-3 weeks I've been doing nothing but weed/salvia bowls with the occasional weed-only/salvia-only ones. things have been pretty... surreal.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: floydisgod]
    #14089319 - 03/08/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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When smoking leaves do you still hold in your hits for 20 seconds? Or just smoke it like a actual joint? I'm gonna do the quid again eventually, and would also like to try smoking leaf.




Both in a way, its definitely a good idea to hold some of it in but since these blunts are usually pretty big for the most part its more like smoking a joint.
Personally I usually make the blunt as big as I can using one wrap (2g or so), most of it leaves but with some extract and weed. Packing all the extract into the first third or half of the blunt, so you hold your hits there and when it burns past that point just chill on it.

Personally I'm done with salvia bowls, may try the quid again but probably not (flavor). Smoking it in a blunt is pretty much my MO with salvia.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: ahchela]
    #14090583 - 03/09/11 01:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ahchela said:
more of a fan of blunts but... I'm also a scientist and sometimes you have to sacrifice




umm Mr. Scientist?

Salvia needs to burn at 240 C (that's hotter than the temperature at which paper burns) in order to release Salvinorin (quoth Wikipedia). Your blunt ember would have to burn very hot indeed to get any effect. Salvia in a joint has never worked for me; i don't know if tobacco burns hotter but until i see something serious otherwise i remain skeptical. No disrespect sir, but your salvia blunts sound placebo-rific.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: and yet it moves]
    #14090663 - 03/09/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

sorry
No it does not need to burn at that high temperature


just think this through a tiny bit:
if salvinorin gas at 240 C touched your skin or worse if it touched your lungs - what would happen?
you would cook
this idiocy has to be prevented.

smoke contains some gas(vapor), some tiny droplets of fluid and some particulate solids.
smoked salvia contains salvinorin that is mostly tiny droplets (liquid state) which can be absorbed easily by lungs.

even vapor when implemented with salvinorin dosing is no longer vapor when inhaled safely, it becomes a cloud of droplets. some EEJITS think that vaporization is a kind of activation unlocking the secret power of the drug, but they must have never studied any chemistry at all.

NO DISRESPECT, but the whole vaporization and torches argument about Salvia is NONSCIENTIFIC.

blunts joints and pipes with plain leaf or extract work fine.


the trick is to get enough salvinorin inside you within 90 seconds so that the threshold can be reached for your dose, as it gets metabolised quickly,
if you smoke lazily like marijuana it does not accumulate in the blood.

when I smoke a salvia joint I usually peak 3 times and relight twice. a clean ashtray is nice to have


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    #14090664 - 03/09/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14090665 - 03/09/11 01:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: salvia quid [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #14090972 - 03/09/11 05:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

sweet, i'm wrong then. apparently my ego burns at 240 C. the more i know indeed.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: and yet it moves]
    #14091014 - 03/09/11 05:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it's good to have a very high melt down point
cause when things get going,
well you just never know.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: redgreenvines]
    #14093350 - 03/09/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:

the trick is to get enough salvinorin inside you within 90 seconds so that the threshold can be reached for your dose, as it gets metabolised quickly,
if you smoke lazily like marijuana it does not accumulate in the blood.





Hmm... going to think on this.
Guess an alternative to a full salvia blunt would be a regular blunt with salvia leaves/extract in the middle section. I'll have to do some A/B comparisons...
SCIENCE!!!
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Re: salvia quid [Re: ahchela]
    #14094927 - 03/09/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have smoked extract type joints, but I have to sit down immediately after one toke.
I don;t like relighting the stubbed thing so many times,
the tarry carbonization just looks unhealthy.
but it works.
3 to 5 tokes from a fat salvia leaf joint is a nice fresh smoke with a great mental twist to it.


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Re: salvia quid [Re: redgreenvines]
    #14095625 - 03/09/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My only experience with salvia quid was fresh leaves(about as many as i could comfortably fit in my mouth, I forget exactly how many) while i was on lsd.  It was late in the trip heading back toward baseline, the salvia seemed to bring back some of the effects of the acid, more of the mental feeling than the visuals, though OEVs increased somewhat.


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