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floydisgod
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salvia quid
#14036164 - 02/27/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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alright so a buddy of mine gave me 13 dried salvia leaves to trip on. I'll probably be quidding them tonight, and was wondering if anyone had some experience with quidding and could offer some advice. I've only tried smoking the extract, and have had a couple breakthroughs.
I'm pretty excited and kinda nervous, but am open minded about what she will show me. Any pointers and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks a ton
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Quids are fairly difficult to make with dry leaves. Typically fresh, still pliable leaves are wrapped into a roll and placed in the lower lip. I have tried quids with dried leaves several times, and basically the only way to do it is by crushing the leaves up and dipping them in a way similar to chewing tobacco. Remember that you don't need to swallow any of the juice really, it's all about the mucous membranes in your mouth! If you could get a hold of something like Camel Snus is packaged in that might be the easiest route, as dried Salvia divinorum leaf will be difficult to hold properly as a dip. Should be a great trip! Just take out your quid whenever effects start to fade or it it's too much. Quids, I believe, create a less intense trip than smoking extract however.
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Re: salvia quid [Re: Forager]
#14036463 - 02/27/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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should i soak the leaves in water before i do this? and should i chew them at all, or just shove em under my lip?
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You could certainly chew them, it wouldn't help. Soaking them in water might help, although I have heard that Salvinorin A is slightly water soluble, but not to any degree where you would noticeably lose potency. Try soaking them! That would make the quid much better, especially if you could get near the piability of fresh leaves.
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Re: salvia quid [Re: Forager]
#14038505 - 02/27/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i usally soak em. you could always use a little alcohol in your mouth, would make sense if that would aid absorption
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floydisgod
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Yea i heard rinsing your mouth with mouthwash can aid in the absorption.
I didnt get to try it last night, was out playin hockey with some buddies, but hopefully tonight will be the night.
I just can't really picture what the high will be like cuz the extract is so instant and usually overwhelming how does this compare? Is there any relationship between the quid and smoking the extract?
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13 leaves in a quid is going to provide few results.
How big are they? They would have to be enormous to bring on anything more than a level 1 experience.
However, you would get much more results from a similar amount of fresh leaves.
best of luck but you may want to consider smoking it if that's all you got.
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Re: salvia quid [Re: lurkmode]
#14047310 - 03/01/11 08:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So whats the deal with smoking plain leaf? Load a bowl and smoke it as fast as possible? Do i still try to hold in the hits?
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When I had raw salvia leaf a few of my friends tried to smoke it with no results. That's just my experience, but to get the effect of a 10x preparations you would have to smoke 10X as much leaf as you smoke extract. Report back to let us know how it goes! Gravity bong maybe???
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Re: salvia quid [Re: Forager]
#14048995 - 03/01/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can smoke it in a blunt if you're on something heavier (LSD, Shrooms, etc), it'll definitely hit you hard. Sober it won't do much that way. Definitely the most fun way to us salvia IMO
If you really want to get your rocks off try throwing in some extract, get a blunt going with a gram or so of leaves and as much extract as you care to spare. I used to mix different kinds of salvia that way, get a nice cocktail going. Smoke that on some LSD and you'll know the Fear. You can go sober like that as well but I'd recommend smoking some extract first and then using the blunt, that way you're already steeped in the salvia and don't need to overcome that little bump.
Smoking leaves out of a bowl is tiresome and won't work as well, its just plain nasty that way. A blunt won't taste too bad and if you like you can throw some weed in too, the smell is pretty rank.
Made the mistake of smoking a bowl of salvia extract on a few dozen hits of acid once, big mistake. It was a great experience but I only remember about 10min out of an hour... big waste of LSD right there
Only did the quid once, didn't care for it myself... tastes awful and didn't feel as much as I would have smoking it.
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grind it down to coarse flakes and pack 2 separate pipes.
try to smike the first bowl in 1 or 2 hits and hold it.
then do the same with the other bowl. If you get good hits and the leaf is decent that will launch you into oblivion.
gravity bongs and bongs in general work.
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Re: salvia quid [Re: lurkmode]
#14050649 - 03/01/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to get mega fucked up, i'm just trying to be in more control while tripping on this plant. Like actually be able to think about something while tripping instead of being paunched into the netherworld. Is that possible with smoking plain leaf?
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Quote:
floydisgod said: I'm not trying to get mega fucked up, i'm just trying to be in more control while tripping on this plant. Like actually be able to think about something while tripping instead of being paunched into the netherworld. Is that possible with smoking plain leaf?
Thats why I started using blunts, they come on a lot easier than extract but last longer and in a more ... enchancing way. Its more subtle than pot, but extremely strange and can have some really-really strong visuals. The body feeling itself is lighter than good medical pot though. With pot you can get the cat pee aroma, it won't overwhelm you - its very subtle. This will fade with your high naturally
On the other hand with something like LSD or mushrooms it changes the character of the trip, the overall vibe. Visually and in a perceptive sense, but not physically. Only combine salvia with other psychedelics when you're experienced with those substances, get a good 10 trips in before that point because salvia will make the trip a lot stronger and wild, it will fade slower than the rest of the trip too. It takes a lot of grit to deal with the salvia like this, but its enthralling....
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Re: salvia quid [Re: ahchela]
#14053279 - 03/02/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't like quidding. you could have 20 nice fat salvia joints instead I do like those. 13 leaves is a mild quid. each of the 20 joints is stronger than the quid.
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then smoke only one bowl that way.
1x is very forgiving - even a full bowl but can still be quite strong if you smoke it fast.
Just start out slow and work your way up to your preferred arena but with that small of an amount I wouldn't waste them on a quid.
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I've tried quids a few times with dried leaves but didn't really get any effects.
Brush your teeth before quidding. Not just your teeth, but your gums, tongue, and any part of the mouth that you can. It gets rid of the dead skin cells and allows for better absorption of Salvinorin A.
Also use mouthwash if you can. Plus, it kind of numbs the mouth so it dulls the really bitter taste a bit.
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Re: salvia quid [Re: x Ju x]
#14066442 - 03/04/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I actually got an oz of salvia a month ago and have experimented with both quids and smoking the plain leaf.
For dry leaves simply re-hydrate them in a small bowl of cold water for 10 minutes, roll them up and chew, occasionally placing them beneath your tongue. I usually keep this up for about an hour, at which point eyes closed gives me the sensation of my consciousness being star-wide. a deep meditative state that would only come about after an hour of meditation is present instantaneously, and lasts for 2 hours.
dried leaves smoke are awesome! this thread I made yesterday should explain:
dried leaf salvias fuckin me uppppp
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floydisgod
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So i did the quid last night. It wasn't anything like i expected. I felt really calm and meditated on some things that have been troubling me lately. I had the pre trip jitters going into this, because i didn't know how strong it was going to be or what to expect or anything. But as i was chewing and attempting not to let the goop in my mouth overcome my want to trip, i started to calm down and relax.
I felt a familiar feeling. It was almost like the afterglow of a nice salvia trip. That feeling of coming home. So i turned off my music, turned off the tv, layed down and shut off the lights. As i lay there i start breathing, and next thing i know im inside my head. I can see the walls of my mind as abunch of tv's, i believe they were playing certain points in my life, but i couldn't tell. I beegon to focus on this one tv and its the problem i was trying to deal with. Instead of showing me a possible outcome or a solution to the "problem", it just disappears and i too exit my mind at the same time.
What this trip showed me was that i have to learn what things are worth caring about, and what things to not care about at all. It showed me that this problem in my mind had grown to a stupidly big chunk of wasted space and negativity in there, and that i have toearn to let things go.
This trip was nothing like a mushroom trip. And not really like a smoke salvia trip, because i actually had "control" over where this went. I could have been in the now that whole trip, and i was once i came back from meditating. It basically is just an easier way to get into meditation. Cool plant though, and id like to try a higher dose sometime.
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I'm very happy to hear about the insight this trip gave you! Salvia can be an EXTRAORDINARY ally in its quid form as it doesn't wreak unintelligible havoc on you where you gain nothing from it besides "whoa my living room broked in half 
Quidding salvia is perfect for when you want to turn the eye inwards, and my first experiences with this coincided with my HBWR usage and (seeing as how I never got around to posting the results of my LSA + Salvia trials) I will just say now that the fluid, slowed down, deep thinking of LSA is very, very synergistic with the tranquil, deep meditative headspace that salvia quids bring about. It is a combo worth trying for the contemplative man.
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I've never gotten a quid to work properly, but I was dealing with dried and not fresh leaves. I'd really like to try it again soon.
Salvia quid trips give you a lot more time to understand and observes the changes happening.
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