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Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff?*UPDATE*
#14036075 - 02/27/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14036096 - 02/27/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It doesnt look like DMT. But I wouldnt know for sure. Maybe its DMT resin lol
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: samsara607]
#14036161 - 02/27/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whats it smell like? lol
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Content]
#14036192 - 02/27/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't know. If it is DMT, it's extremely impure. You could always test the melting point.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Content]
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Feanor]
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14036245 - 02/27/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is probably just an impure extraction. Sometimes people are able to get a hold of crystalized pure DMT, and other times its impure and contains chlorophyll and other inactive compounds. If that was sold to you as DMT I would think it is, it is probably just impure. Probably an extraction someone did in their basement without all the necessary chemistry backround, just an online DIY tutorial.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14036246 - 02/27/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Smoke it bro, it's the only thing you can do if you really want to know.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Forager]
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14036266 - 02/27/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Feanor said: I don't know. If it is DMT, it's extremely impure. You could always test the melting point.
How would I do that without smoking it?
It's pretty simple. Put the solid in a test tube. Put the test tube in an oil bath, which is heated. Put a thermometer in the test tub, touching the solid. What till it melts, then look at what the melting point is on the thermometer. If it is DMT, and it's really impure, the melting point is going to bee off, maybe by 7 degrees even. After you've tested the melting point, remove the test tube, and let the liquid turn into a solid once again. Once things are cooled down, pour some petroleum ether (naptha) into the test tube. The solid should dissolve. Close the test tube with one of your fingers, and shake it really hard to dissolve all of the crystals. Once it's dissolved, pour the solvent into an evaporation dish, and evaporate..... Or you could just smoke the stuff!! Hope this helps.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Feanor]
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14036304 - 02/27/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cool, man, I'm glad I was able to help.
Let us know how things turn out!
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Feanor]
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14036565 - 02/27/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I hate seeing impure dmt. I mean comeon how hard is it to not suck up the bark and lye peoples
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: laruta_21]
#14036798 - 02/27/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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the stuff i've smoked has been pretty dark, but very fragrant (smells like i think spice melange from dune would smell like) and extremely potent. the extractor i know leaves the yuremamine in it. no complaints. it's made with love and has always shown me love.
i had some other stuff recently that was orange and hard. wow on that too.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: millzy]
#14036917 - 02/27/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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JUngle Spice fooooow shooooo.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14036934 - 02/27/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks like bufotenine extracted from A. Colubrina seeds. If vaporized, do so at a tiny fraction of DMT. Very powerful vasoconstriction and extreme nausea is associated with this stuff.
When I did my extraction, product looked EXACTLY like that. Be prepared for a VERY funky, overwhelming tingling of the head and face, hot body flash, and NAUSEA leading to vomiting.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Nature Boy]
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14037007 - 02/27/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Take a tiny amount ( 2 - 5mg at most) and try it. See what it does. Just passing it on with no information doesn't solve anything. Might like it, might hate it. But at least you'll have a data point on what it might be based on your bioassay.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Nature Boy]
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14037829 - 02/27/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, they do look a lot alike. That's the value of the bioassay, which will very likely tell the tale. IIRC, you've done DMT before and know how that feels for you.
Let us know what you think. Good vibes no matter what! 
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Nature Boy]
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14038164 - 02/27/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Look up Jim-Jam or Jungle Spice. It is a much wider spectrum of alkaloids. Many people think that it is stronger than pure DMT.
It is obtained by using a solvent other than naptha when extracting...
TL;DR: It is dmt. Have a great time.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14038369 - 02/27/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If its got pretty much any dmt in it at all it will smell similar to plastic. My guess its impure dmt with some other alkaloids in it and left over plant material.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Everything]
#14038408 - 02/27/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ive gotten jungle spice out of extractions. Yes its usually waxy but never red or brown, just a orangy color. It tasted exactly like mushrooms which was fuckin crazy and was a darker trip
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: laruta_21]
#14038457 - 02/27/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've personally had both pure nn-DMT and Jungle Spice. The Jungle Spice is much more potent, a breakthrough occurs at around 25mg and is much more visual.
Consider yourself lucky if you got jungle.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: sunset_mission]
#14038852 - 02/27/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Agree with it being jungle spice. It can vary in color from orange to red to a dark brown..almost a red chocolate color. Enjoy and report back!
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: enesi]
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: waves]
#14102588 - 03/11/11 06:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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TheDukeofLizards said: well, I smoked it...or vaped it rather, and it was definitely DMT. Well, I think it was anyways. I've only smoked DMT one other time, this time was much more intense though. I smoked a little bit and kinda chickened out. Then I loaded it all, and kept hitting it on and off for about 20 minutes. I didn't break through, but was having amazing visuals, with fractals everywhere.
In conclusion, it was awesome. I want to experiment further with DMT. Real bad.
Glad to hear it worked out for you. I have found that the tolerance for dmt is really odd. It only lasts about an hour, but you can't really breakthrough by smoking it over 20 minutes like you did. So if you want to breakthrough, I suggest a few large hits over maybe a minute.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: Nature Boy]
#14103798 - 03/11/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got DMT like that back in September at a festival.
Between my girlfriend and I, we smoked quite a bit of it in one sitting. Neither of us broke through, but it was one of the most beautiful, loving trips I've ever experience. It was defiantly DMT, not as strong as other DMT I've smoked, but still bound to be one great trip.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: muirileD]
#14104324 - 03/11/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That brownish/red stuff is what happens when someone tries to evaporate the naphtha instead of putting it in the freezer.
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: danlennon3]
#14104839 - 03/11/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just did a bestine re-crystallization and the oily (when hot) "discard" product solidified upon cooling and looks a lot like the OP's picture. I've always thrown that stuff away, but this time I saved it, since I was re-crystallizing several grams at once.
Might CAREFULLY give it a bioassay and report back. Not too sure about the outcome if I do...but hey, DMT is like that, eh? Never quite sure what direction it'll take you.
Thanks DukeofLizards for reporting back. These data points ARE important as there's just not that much good, reliable, first-hand info out there from reliable psychonauts such as yourself. Kudo's bro for having the balls to do the bioassay and for taking the time to post the results.
Edit: Gave you plus 5 shrooms for your contributions! 
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Re: Brownish/Red DMT? What is this stuff? [Re: danlennon3]
#14105279 - 03/11/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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danlennon3 said: That brownish/red stuff is what happens when someone tries to evaporate the naphtha instead of putting it in the freezer.
I ALWAYS evaporate, and have only gotten stuff like that when using xylene. Evaporating vs freeze precip. are just two different methods. I always get pure white crystals. :P
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