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Moisture Content of Staw
    #1403435 - 03/23/03 12:54 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

After I pastureize wheat straw and get ready to innoculate it with spawn jars, what should the moisture content be and how can I check this?

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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: bigj2]
    #1403450 - 03/23/03 01:00 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

kramer has never worked with plain staw


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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: george castanza]
    #1403477 - 03/23/03 01:08 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

lol....
why does kramer bother to answer then?

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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: bigj2]
    #1403478 - 03/23/03 01:09 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

I'm not sure on just straw...
Ask Anno! pm him, he would be able to tell you...
Anno is well versed with straw~ i think.
Or maybe Roadkill he's also good with straw. Almost forgot about road :grin:
Either of them can answer this for ya :laugh:

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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: bigj2]
    #1403539 - 03/23/03 01:33 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

If you pasteurize straw for 1 hour at 160-170?F and then let it drain over night, the water content will be just right.

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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: bigj2]
    #1403550 - 03/23/03 01:37 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

TMC says that straw should be pre-soaked to a moisture content of approximately 75% before pasteurization, but my friend has not a clue how to check it.

My friend doresn't pre-soak. He pasteurizes his straw in a pillow case and then just lets it drain overnight on a rack above the sink or by hanging it on a fence outside. When he adds the spawn, the straw feels kind of damp but not wet. He says he's actually had the best results when the straw seemed a bit on the dry side.


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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: dog]
    #1403559 - 03/23/03 01:39 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

>TMC says that straw should be pre-soaked to a moisture content of approximately 75% before pasteurization,

Hmm...are you sure about that?

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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: bigj2]
    #1403575 - 03/23/03 01:43 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

you want it wet, but not so wet that water accumulates in the bottom of the casing tray .
use the gentle squeeze test as you would for making a casing .
if you're adding poo, same thing .

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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: Anno]
    #1403583 - 03/23/03 01:47 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

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Hmm...are you sure about that? 



Page 119, first paragraph, second sentence.  :grin: 


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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: dog]
    #1403595 - 03/23/03 01:50 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

ic....

We are talking on 2 different methods here though.
What you say is
1. presoak
2. steam fro 2-4 hours at 140-150?F.

What I talk about, without presoaking, is a hot water bath at 160?F-170?F for 1 hour.

Page 119, second paragraph, first sentence.

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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: Anno]
    #1403627 - 03/23/03 01:59 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

You're right.  :shocked:

When my friend saw the presoaking statement he assumed it applied to both methods. In the hot water submersion paragraph the author makes no mention of presoaking.

Wise guy...  :smile:   


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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: Anno]
    #1403635 - 03/23/03 02:03 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

anno works with staw?
what is staw?
kramer is a smart ass


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Re: Moisture Content of Staw [Re: bigj2]
    #1403882 - 03/23/03 03:42 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

after pasteurisation I stick the bag into cold water with a dash of h202 to cool it down, then toss it in the washing machine on high spin for a few minutes.
seems to work well, and no draining overnight is good if you're in a hurry;)


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