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Prisoner#1 said: cyanide, that shit'll fuck you up
already legal.
edit: wait what the fuck? cyanide is legal and marijuana isnt? ....for fucks sake.... 
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: Neo Skywalker]
#14037110 - 02/27/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Neo Skywalker said: If only allowed to choose one it would be 
Mescaline containing cacti for sure.
In reality, there's a lot of phenethylamines in cacti, so we're legalizing more than one chemical. And mescaline is awesome in every way.
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SamuelLJackson said: Prisoner#1 said: cyanide, that shit'll fuck you up
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already legal.
All we need now is to get the Bishops outta the House o' Lords so we can have the Euphanasia and solve the under funding of the NHS. But true.
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: deucedbi9]
#14037150 - 02/27/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hydromorphone, maybe oxycodone.
Did I mention opiates? mmmm
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: withoutawire]
#14037171 - 02/27/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Molly...or LSD. Or...Molly AND LSD 
not shrooms...i can get those outta the ground, and weed is going to be legal soon anyways. Weed is easy to get anyway, it doesn't NEED to be legal, but it'd be nice.
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: Anthony917]
#14037265 - 02/27/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Guys, I don't think the purpose of legalizing a drug is to increase availability, but to prevent prosecution for making the informed decision to obtain and consume such substances...
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: Acaterpillar]
#14037282 - 02/27/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rabidbaboon said: Guys, I don't think the purpose of legalizing a drug is to increase availability, but to prevent prosecution for making the informed decision to obtain and consume such substances...
Yeah man, if that was the litmus then I would go with 2C-B because I can't find that shit ANYWHERE. 
It's a lot easier to make 2C-B than acid, though.
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i want DMT to be legal to increase availability
shock some sense into the up and coming generation so we can save this sinking failboat of a planet
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: Acaterpillar]
#14037330 - 02/27/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rabidbaboon said: Guys, I don't think the purpose of legalizing a drug is to increase availability, but to prevent prosecution for making the informed decision to obtain and consume such substances...
That's how I was thinking at first, but now that I think about it, considering both makes more sense.
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: doses]
#14037372 - 02/27/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Either way, my vote goes to cannabis.
On the aspect of availability: It's the only drug that can be heavily abused without acute and direct repercussions in the average user. Lacking the need for strict responsibility like other substances, I wouldn't be worried about the masses getting their hands on it. Contrary to the popular belief of other shroomerites, the general human population would not inherently benefit from an experience with any various forms of hallucinogens.
My guess is most of them would be frightened/confused. It would likely induce PTSD and levels of anxiety in a large percentage of the population.
I already explained why I would want to legalize cannabis to prevent prosecution. That much should seem obvious. If you get caught with other substances that are easier to conceal then you either had some shitty luck or you weren't doing something right
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: Acaterpillar]
#14037453 - 02/27/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rabidbaboon said: If you get caught with other substances that are easier to conceal then you either had some shitty luck or you weren't doing something right 
Sheet of acid for your bible book mark???
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: The Inner Eye]
#14037502 - 02/27/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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a lot of u prolly gonna say some psychedelic
but u cant take psychedelics all the damn time
make weed legal
yay
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: Acaterpillar]
#14037525 - 02/27/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rabidbaboon said: Either way, my vote goes to cannabis.
On the aspect of availability: It's the only drug that can be heavily abused without acute and direct repercussions in the average user. Lacking the need for strict responsibility like other substances, I wouldn't be worried about the masses getting their hands on it. Contrary to the popular belief of other shroomerites, the general human population would not inherently benefit from an experience with any various forms of hallucinogens.
My guess is most of them would be frightened/confused. It would likely induce PTSD and levels of anxiety in a large percentage of the population.
I already explained why I would want to legalize cannabis to prevent prosecution. That much should seem obvious. If you get caught with other substances that are easier to conceal then you either had some shitty luck or you weren't doing something right 
I disagree, history has shown us that psychedelics are a good thing for human culture.
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Rabidbaboon said: Guys, I don't think the purpose of legalizing a drug is to increase availability, but to prevent prosecution for making the informed decision to obtain and consume such substances...
This! It's what drug would you like to become accepted and used by more people in various ways.
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: Acaterpillar]
#14037590 - 02/27/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rabidbaboon said: Either way, my vote goes to cannabis.
On the aspect of availability: It's the only drug that can be heavily abused without acute and direct repercussions in the average user. Lacking the need for strict responsibility like other substances, I wouldn't be worried about the masses getting their hands on it. Contrary to the popular belief of other shroomerites, the general human population would not inherently benefit from an experience with any various forms of hallucinogens.
My guess is most of them would be frightened/confused. It would likely induce PTSD and levels of anxiety in a large percentage of the population.
I already explained why I would want to legalize cannabis to prevent prosecution. That much should seem obvious. If you get caught with other substances that are easier to conceal then you either had some shitty luck or you weren't doing something right 
this.
and 28064212; you obviously havent seen the 'dark side' of america.
i NEVER want to live in an america where some of the people i have met can get a hold of psychedelics on a regular basis.
never. no way. nuh uh. wont happen. there are some people out there who are just wrong in the head and emotionally unstable. giving them hallucinogens wont fix that, its just going to make it much much more extreme. i compare eating hallucinogens to eating mood enhancers. that doesnt mean enhance like "go from a bad mood to a good mood"; its enhance like "how you felt before taking the drug, only multiplied by five thousand"
edit: by 'dark side' i didnt mean black people, just in case someone thought i was being a racist. by 'dark side' i meant all the people who cant handle their shit even when theyre sober, all the crazy people, all the emotionally unstable people, all the people who have really huge issues within their family, all the people who have had fucked up lives, all the people who dont live in a comfortable setting, etc. the same people who use alcohol and other drugs as an escape. hallucinogens arent a way to escape reality, theyre a way to make reality too real. and when those people with issues realize how bad they have it they will either off themselves or off someone else, because they will be the son of god for a moment and completely lose all touch with what shreds of common sense they had.
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Rabidbaboon said: Either way, my vote goes to cannabis.
On the aspect of availability: It's the only drug that can be heavily abused without acute and direct repercussions in the average user. Lacking the need for strict responsibility like other substances, I wouldn't be worried about the masses getting their hands on it. Contrary to the popular belief of other shroomerites, the general human population would not inherently benefit from an experience with any various forms of hallucinogens.
My guess is most of them would be frightened/confused. It would likely induce PTSD and levels of anxiety in a large percentage of the population.
I already explained why I would want to legalize cannabis to prevent prosecution. That much should seem obvious. If you get caught with other substances that are easier to conceal then you either had some shitty luck or you weren't doing something right 
this.
and 28064212; you obviously havent seen the 'dark side' of america.
i NEVER want to live in an america where some of the people i have met can get a hold of psychedelics on a regular basis.
never. no way. nuh uh. wont happen. there are some people out there who are just wrong in the head and emotionally unstable. giving them hallucinogens wont fix that, its just going to make it much much more extreme. i compare eating hallucinogens to eating mood enhancers. that doesnt mean enhance like "go from a bad mood to a good mood"; its enhance like "how you felt before taking the drug, only multiplied by five thousand"
If psychedelics were legal and information about them was freely available, people wouldn't use them the way they use alcohol and other mood-lifting drugs. They would probably use them in specialized churches, community centers, and clinics, rather than night clubs or bars.
Psychedelics are dangerous when used by the ignorant, but when administered by specialists they're very safe and very fun. If people were legally allowed to use psychedelics in the open, we would rapidly develop much better ways of using them than as mood-lifters, across the board.
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: 28064212]
#14037655 - 02/27/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rabidbaboon said: Either way, my vote goes to cannabis.
On the aspect of availability: It's the only drug that can be heavily abused without acute and direct repercussions in the average user. Lacking the need for strict responsibility like other substances, I wouldn't be worried about the masses getting their hands on it. Contrary to the popular belief of other shroomerites, the general human population would not inherently benefit from an experience with any various forms of hallucinogens.
My guess is most of them would be frightened/confused. It would likely induce PTSD and levels of anxiety in a large percentage of the population.
I already explained why I would want to legalize cannabis to prevent prosecution. That much should seem obvious. If you get caught with other substances that are easier to conceal then you either had some shitty luck or you weren't doing something right 
I disagree, history has shown us that psychedelics are a good thing for human culture.
I disagree with your antithesis. Cultures heavily relying upon entheogens also heavily rely upon shamans who are trained to work with these substances. They have high respect for the entheogens and realize that they are not something to be handed out to the masses.
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: Acaterpillar]
#14037698 - 02/27/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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28064212 said:
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Rabidbaboon said: Either way, my vote goes to cannabis.
On the aspect of availability: It's the only drug that can be heavily abused without acute and direct repercussions in the average user. Lacking the need for strict responsibility like other substances, I wouldn't be worried about the masses getting their hands on it. Contrary to the popular belief of other shroomerites, the general human population would not inherently benefit from an experience with any various forms of hallucinogens.
My guess is most of them would be frightened/confused. It would likely induce PTSD and levels of anxiety in a large percentage of the population.
I already explained why I would want to legalize cannabis to prevent prosecution. That much should seem obvious. If you get caught with other substances that are easier to conceal then you either had some shitty luck or you weren't doing something right 
I disagree, history has shown us that psychedelics are a good thing for human culture.
I disagree with your antithesis. Cultures heavily relying upon entheogens also heavily rely upon shamans who are trained to work with these substances. They have high respect for the entheogens and realize that they are not something to be handed out to the masses.
This is not universally true. Tribal use of entheogens is very democratized; although the gathering, cultivation, and proper use of the entheogens is the domain of the shaman, the shamans are generally not stingy about handing out their product. Their ability to do this makes them prized and highly-regarded by the tribespeople, but the psychedelics are not considered a commodity.
That said, I don't know anything about the use of entheogens by meso- and south-American civilizations, that might be a different story.
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Nothing is universally true when it comes to shamanism. What cultures are you referring to in your post?
Many south American tribes do not handle entheogens in the way you have described.
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Re: If you could make one drug legal... [Re: Acaterpillar]
#14037731 - 02/27/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I guess I'm thinking more of Mesoamerican and North American tribal use of cacti, mushrooms, and salvia.
I know nothing about South American use of entheogens.
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Unfortunately I think if hallucinogens became available for wide spread use, there would be a lot more religious fanatics, delirious lunatics, and brain washing cults.
Of course it would be possible to control the availability, and prepare the population for a constructive experience, but I don't really see anything like this happening with the current regimes running the world.
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