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Casing Layer Depth
    #14034069 - 02/27/11 01:15 AM (13 years, 6 days ago)

I overfilled a tray with substrate and had to make the casing layer less deep than usual, about a cm thick. This caused the first fruits to be incredibly thin, i mean 2 mm stems thin! But they grew so densely it was almost like a head of mushroom hair.  Once everything was picked (it was a tedious process let me tell you,) I decided to add another two centimeters of casing so that it bulged out. Within 7 days I was getting a new batch of fruiting bodies, which looked like a completely different strain. These guys were nice and robust, much healthier looking too.

First off, would it follow that a deeper casing layer will result in heartier mushrooms? Secondly, I'm curious as to whether anyone knows if adding consecutive casing layers after each flush is a good idea? I've never prepared enough casing to do it more than twice, but am considering doing it if anyone else with more experience thinks it's a good idea.

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Re: Casing Layer Depth [Re: octopie]
    #14034072 - 02/27/11 01:16 AM (13 years, 6 days ago)

what substrate what casing layer and spores?


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Re: Casing Layer Depth [Re: k00laid]
    #14034107 - 02/27/11 01:25 AM (13 years, 6 days ago)

Popcorn substrate, peat moss/vermiculite/oyster shell casing. Golden Hawaiian caps inoculated via spawn...


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Re: Casing Layer Depth [Re: octopie]
    #14034110 - 02/27/11 01:26 AM (13 years, 6 days ago)

some pics would be useful


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Re: Casing Layer Depth [Re: octopie]
    #14034215 - 02/27/11 02:06 AM (13 years, 6 days ago)

casing layer has nothing to do with the heartiness of a mushroom.  by your logic, bulk substrates would have no fruits without a casing layer.

each flush will be different.  i've seen radically different shrooms from the same cake over every flush.

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Re: Casing Layer Depth [Re: maynardsdick]
    #14035751 - 02/27/11 12:33 PM (13 years, 6 days ago)

My logic is that with a shallow casing layer, the mushrooms can't afford to be large because they don't have enough room to settle their base, thus running the risk of falling over if too big. Being small, thin and densely packed is the best way for them to grow in that scenario. With a deeper casing layer the base gets nice and big with lots of support so the mushroom can afford to grow bigger and stand on its own. I'm almost certain that if I didn't add more casing, the mushrooms would not have grown larger...but I'll have to verify this next time.


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Re: Casing Layer Depth [Re: octopie]
    #14035783 - 02/27/11 12:43 PM (13 years, 6 days ago)

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With a deeper casing layer the base gets nice and big with lots of support so the mushroom can afford to grow bigger and stand on its own. I'm almost certain that if I didn't add more casing, the mushrooms would not have grown larger...but I'll have to verify this next time.




sorry no.

i get monster fruits with NO casing layer.


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