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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: Doc_T]
    #14031801 - 02/26/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

One stop shopping. :thumbup:
On bottle lasts me a long time.
One bottle have at least 40 tsp's...
thats a lot of rye.


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: Stains Blue]
    #14031821 - 02/26/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was brewing beer before Jimmy Carter made it legal in the US. I'm into a "new" hobby now (albeit my first grow was in 1978). I have found that brewing beer isn't cost effective anymore and is a PIA.

I have a brewer that I get my unpasteurized kegs of ale from. It is SO convenient. I won't discourage people from brewing their own. The raw materials are SO expensive now,it's hard to find a happy medium in that arena.


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: bootster]
    #14031862 - 02/26/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just use sugar and yeast. Of course you have to distill it and add orange juice...


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: bootster]
    #14031879 - 02/26/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Make cider. Can't recall how many apple trees I saw when I lived in the US but I'm sure they're around.

I have a friend who brews 1,000+ pints per year (568ml British pint) from 3-4 trees. He uses old beer bottles and has a press so it costs him nothing really. He brews several strengths and varieties in a shed in his garden.

I don't mean "apple cider" that Americans for some reason think is cider even though it has no alcohol and is glorified apple juice. I'm talking Scrumpy style (google it Yanks). :thumbup:


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: egodeathflux]
    #14031900 - 02/26/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That sounds really good. I wanted to make Meade once,back in the day.


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: bootster]
    #14032003 - 02/26/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He basically has to drink or give away at least 3 pints a day of 7%+abv every day to avoid building up a stupid amount. It'll last a year or 2 if stored well he says. Easy as hell and tasty as fuck. :thumbup:


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: egodeathflux]
    #14032054 - 02/26/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just picked up a keg today that is 7.2 ABV brewed with roasted chestnuts. It's the second one I've partaked in. It won't last that long though. :crazy2:


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: egodeathflux]
    #14032056 - 02/26/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So I have made my decision, I am going to go with out gypsum for this batch, as it is my first attempt and I am eager to get started!

My jars are on the stove and sterilizing as I type this... Next step is figuring out which strain I am going to inoculate the cakes with. B+ or PES Hawaiian?

Regardless, expect an over enthusiastic grow log to pop up the moment I start seeing colonization :]

Thanks everyone for the input!


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: RoastedPete]
    #14032114 - 02/26/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Excellent, keep us posted!


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: RoastedPete]
    #14032129 - 02/26/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I used crushed up drywall in every rye jar I have made. I can't comment on the use/non use though. RR got me convinced that it was helpful.


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: bootster]
    #14032140 - 02/26/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's fine without, but better with. I couldn't find it for a couple years.

Then I asked the hippie granola girl with the pierced nose.
She pointed right at it: "forty pounds? Or would you like 80?"


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: Doc_T]
    #14032155 - 02/26/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I too had difficult time finding gypsum in my area. I literally went to every store in the area and asked around. I just got empty looks. Your best bet is ordering them from one of our sponsors. In the mean time you can find some drywall, pulverize it with a hammer and strain it with a wire mesh strainer for a fine powder. Good luck.


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: Doc_T]
    #14032184 - 02/26/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not into the pierced nose thing but the hippy thing sounds great! I loves me some down to earth girls.

I understand that gypsum added to grains will lead to less clumping and added access to minerals in the final substrate. Of coarse I could be wrong.


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: bootster]
    #14032190 - 02/26/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i've never had a problem finding gypsum, any tractor supply or ace hardware sells it as 'garden gypsum' in pellet form..disolves in water and easily grindable.


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: bootster]
    #14032194 - 02/26/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sheetwall works, and if not gypsum is not a necessity. I have had many operations without the help of gypsum


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: bootster]
    #14032278 - 02/26/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I understand that gypsum added to grains will lead to less clumping and added access to minerals in the final substrate. Of coarse I could be wrong.




It helps the texture of grains, but you'll be ok without, especially with rye.
It's beneficial in bulk substrates too, 2-5% by volume.


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: Doc_T]
    #14032348 - 02/26/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Doc! I have some hpoo that I will be bulk colonizing this weekend. I plan on like 2 cups gypsum per 7 Qts. poo and 2 Qts verm with 4-5 Qts B+ spawn in a 66 Qt monotub. I think for my first grow in 32 yrs. I should be good. My fingers are crossed. Thanks.


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: bootster]
    #14032368 - 02/26/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's also sold as 'clay breaker' at least in the UK, you can bet there's some somewhere near you. Hunting for stuff is half the fun. :banana:


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: bootster]
    #14032407 - 02/26/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds great. Add another quart of verm of you have it.
And be sure to pasteurize properly, don't just use a bucket.

Should be a helluva grow, we'll want pics. :thumbup:


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Re: I thought finding gypsum would be easier than this... [Re: Doc_T]
    #14032426 - 02/26/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

3 Qts verm it is! Thanks! I have 4 cu ft unopened bag.


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