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How do you view the average person?
    #14029968 - 02/26/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I often wonder how y'all view the average man/woman that represents society as a whole. My views make me fairly pessimistic, but at the same time I have a lot of faith in humanity that comes from witnessing great feats accomplished by tight-nit groups.

I spent years in sales and whether I was talking to a homeowner or a coworker, the picture I have of society consists mainly of idiots who never question the nature of their daily life and spend their money as soon as they get it on bullshit they don't need in a pathetic attempt to impress the people around them. I can't cast the first stone b/c I went down that path too, I just saw that it was empty early on. I've also met intelligent, empathetic people who realized how unimportant all the material shit is, but they have been few and far between.

I told coworkers that I'd rather pay off another grand on my car loan than spend it all on clothes, sushi, strippers, cocaine and alcohol and they thought I was crazy. I pointed out to some of them (before saying it to my manager) that our product never worked; that we were stealing from small business owners to fuel our parties and lifestyles; they immediately shunned me. Nobody was willing to talk about it, instead they ratted me out to the higher ups as a dissenter and I was fired.

Based on your experiences, is this a fairly accurate picture of how most people are, or does my picture only represent the morally poor demographic of salespeople? I saw the same shit in the eyes of the homeowners I used to sell to, so I've used that as evidence that my perception is just the way most people are. What do you think?

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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14029976 - 02/26/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I view everyone as inferior and hold them in the highest form of contempt.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14029982 - 02/26/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think you're right.  I feel the same way.  Of course, you were fired. You were threatening their imperialism and questioning their morality.  Sorry to hear about losing your job.  I am glad to hear that some people see how humanity works.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14029987 - 02/26/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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physicist said:
I think you're right.  I feel the same way.  Of course, you were fired. You were threatening their imperialism and questioning their morality.  Sorry to hear about losing your job.  I am glad to hear that some people see how humanity works.




I view the average person as the typical Wal-Mart shopper.

Consuming just for the sake of it because they are convinced by advertisements that they should do so.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Walrus_Infested]
    #14030013 - 02/26/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

so a hard worker should not reward themselves with good food and nice things?


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Walrus_Infested]
    #14030014 - 02/26/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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physicist said:
I think you're right.  I feel the same way.  Of course, you were fired. You were threatening their imperialism and questioning their morality.  Sorry to hear about losing your job.  I am glad to hear that some people see how humanity works.




I view the average person as the typical Wal-Mart shopper.

Consuming just for the sake of it because they are convinced by advertisements that they should do so.




Shit. Sounds like we're forming a consensus, I was worried this might happen. :sad:

I didn't mind being fired. Once I realized what we were doing I just couldn't sell our service any longer. I started changing my pitch to reflect the reality of what we offered and nobody wanted it. Fuck it, I got out of debt with the money I made, thankfully I didn't waste it or I'd be fucked right now.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030022 - 02/26/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I often wonder how y'all view the average man/woman that represents society as a whole. My views make me fairly pessimistic, but at the same time I have a lot of faith in humanity that comes from witnessing great feats accomplished by tight-nit groups.

I spent years in sales and whether I was talking to a homeowner or a coworker, the picture I have of society consists mainly of idiots who never question the nature of their daily life and spend their money as soon as they get it on bullshit they don't need in a pathetic attempt to impress the people around them. I can't cast the first stone b/c I went down that path too, I just saw that it was empty early on. I've also met intelligent, empathetic people who realized how unimportant all the material shit is, but they have been few and far between.

I told coworkers that I'd rather pay off another grand on my car loan than spend it all on clothes, sushi, strippers, cocaine and alcohol and they thought I was crazy. I pointed out to some of them (before saying it to my manager) that our product never worked; that we were stealing from small business owners to fuel our parties and lifestyles; they immediately shunned me. Nobody was willing to talk about it, instead they ratted me out to the higher ups as a dissenter and I was fired.

Based on your experiences, is this a fairly accurate picture of how most people are, or does my picture only represent the morally poor demographic of salespeople? I saw the same shit in the eyes of the homeowners I used to sell to, so I've used that as evidence that my perception is just the way most people are. What do you think?

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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: the human abstract]
    #14030025 - 02/26/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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so a hard worker should not reward themselves with good food and nice things?




That's not what they usually reward themselves with. They mostly buy shit food and nice things that they really can't afford, on credit. Then they stay poor their entire life and they pay no attention to what's going on in the world b/c they're too busy trying to make ends meet.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030028 - 02/26/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't really know what the average person is... is it the poor people in india and china? The average mindless human working a mundane job? I dunno..

But in general, I view the average person as pretty ignorant for the most part


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030036 - 02/26/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Good point, I should've clarified the average American.

If you're not from America, I'd love to hear what you think the average Canadian/European is like!


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030053 - 02/26/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Nah I'm Texas born and raised... I would say the average person in America is pretty dull, ignorant, boring, stares at a TV screen all day after work, god-loving maniac who works their whole life and retires.. to do absolutely nothing but raise a new family and possibly a vacation or two

Basically, my parents.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030064 - 02/26/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I believe no two people are the same. Noone is average. I've met people that if I had to judge them from the outside I would think were total dipshits. However, when I take time to talk to them ALOT of them turn out to be very unmaterialistic and caring:hug:.
  Sure there are people who are dumbfounded by our culture. But I don't think sales people qualify as AVERAGE people; whatever average means:rofl:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030072 - 02/26/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:curbyourenthusiasm:

I'm also a Texan and that describes my parents to a T!


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: i like cow poo]
    #14030088 - 02/26/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i like cow poo said:
I believe no two people are the same. Noone is average. I've met people that if I had to judge them from the outside I would think were total dipshits. However, when I take time to talk to them ALOT of them turn out to be very unmaterialistic and caring:hug:.
  Sure there are people who are dumbfounded by our culture. But I don't think sales people qualify as AVERAGE people; whatever average means:rofl:




Nah, there definitely is such a thing as an average american. Here is proof:



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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030089 - 02/26/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What difference does it make how the average person is? I dunno, I think I am better then 90% of the people I meet, but I am a deluded grandomaniac. But I never really cared about how the average person is like, because that's just stereotyping and artificially isolating yourself from a group of people, I try to get to know everybody I come into contact with,see if they are interesting and if not, well fuck'em, with all the over-population it's not hard at all to meet new people.

Two more points:

1. I agree, anybody living off of credit is beyond retarded
2. What's wrong with cocaine-fueled hooker parties :crankey:?


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030098 - 02/26/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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:curbyourenthusiasm:

I'm also a Texan and that describes my parents to a T!




Yeah most texans can be described as this because religion is a huge part here, and most people don't do shit except watch tv. its rather sad. still, on the plus side, there is a ton of crazy awesome people to find in austin

what part of texas are ya from? :biggrin:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030105 - 02/26/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The average person is poorly understood, especially by themselves. Manouvre between the unsavory habits, failed coping strategies and the autopilot functioning and you will find someone sincerely lovable and well-intentioned. Penetrate deeper and you find Divinity, you look directly in the face of God, face to face with That Which Is All Things And None.

When I see the Other, I see myself, and its often a shocking confrontation. Rejecting them is ultimately self rejection though - I try not to do that.

The average person needs a hug :hug: but they are too scared to let that happen to a deep level.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Asante]
    #14030145 - 02/26/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Penetrate deeper and you find Divinity, you look directly in the face of God, face to face with That Which Is All Things And None.

When I see the Other, I see myself, and its often a shocking confrontation. Rejecting them is ultimately self rejection though - I try not to do that.




what the fuck are you talking about? bunch of mumbo jumbo hippy shit. please explain


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: 13.step]
    #14030169 - 02/26/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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2. What's wrong with cocaine-fueled hooker parties :crankey:?




Nothing! I only object to them when the money that funds them is conned out of the pockets of small business owners.

Also, the way the average person is only matters as a way to gauge how in touch with reality I am., that's why I'm asking. I use it as my baseline for prejudging people (you do it too), that way if they're smarter or more aware than what I consider average, I'll spend more time cultivating a friendship.

Uzziel, I'm from Austin, too. The campus crowd is certainly full of exceptions in every form.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Asante]
    #14030185 - 02/26/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
The average person is poorly understood, especially by themselves. Manouvre between the unsavory habits, failed coping strategies and the autopilot functioning and you will find someone sincerely lovable and well-intentioned. Penetrate deeper and you find Divinity, you look directly in the face of God, face to face with That Which Is All Things And None.

When I see the Other, I see myself, and its often a shocking confrontation. Rejecting them is ultimately self rejection though - I try not to do that.

The average person needs a hug :hug: but they are too scared to let that happen to a deep level.




Uzziel just doesn't realize you're speaking in philosophical terms.:strokebeard: We all have a weak spot, some of us are lazy, some materialistic, some too critical. It takes a real man to admit and fix his weak spots :strong:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: i like cow poo]
    #14030195 - 02/26/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

who's to say what's average.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030203 - 02/26/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If he is saying he puts himself in other shoes, OK I get that, thats fine, but there is a point where you start making up bullshit to appease your mind. (can't blame me to think that - the world is over run by religion) I personally don't give a rats ass about 99% of humans

it sounds like hippy crap to me though


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030214 - 02/26/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It can't be explained, but it can be experienced. Mushrooms can take you there if you let them.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030218 - 02/26/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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uber_aj said:
I often wonder how y'all view the average man/woman that represents society as a whole. My views make me fairly pessimistic, but at the same time I have a lot of faith in humanity that comes from witnessing great feats accomplished by tight-nit groups.

I spent years in sales and whether I was talking to a homeowner or a coworker, the picture I have of society consists mainly of idiots who never question the nature of their daily life and spend their money as soon as they get it on bullshit they don't need in a pathetic attempt to impress the people around them. I can't cast the first stone b/c I went down that path too, I just saw that it was empty early on. I've also met intelligent, empathetic people who realized how unimportant all the material shit is, but they have been few and far between.

I told coworkers that I'd rather pay off another grand on my car loan than spend it all on clothes, sushi, strippers, cocaine and alcohol and they thought I was crazy. I pointed out to some of them (before saying it to my manager) that our product never worked; that we were stealing from small business owners to fuel our parties and lifestyles; they immediately shunned me. Nobody was willing to talk about it, instead they ratted me out to the higher ups as a dissenter and I was fired.

Based on your experiences, is this a fairly accurate picture of how most people are, or does my picture only represent the morally poor demographic of salespeople? I saw the same shit in the eyes of the homeowners I used to sell to, so I've used that as evidence that my perception is just the way most people are. What do you think?

:strokebeard:



I view them as pretty similar to you.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030219 - 02/26/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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closed veil said:
who's to say what's average.




Statistics, that's who. :confused:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Asante]
    #14030234 - 02/26/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030237 - 02/26/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

absolute trash, to the extent that I have the right to kill them for sport.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: DungeonMaster]
    #14030246 - 02/26/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

closed veil said:
who's to say what's average.




Statistics, that's who. :confused:




those are numbers dude. we are talking about people right?


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Asante]
    #14030254 - 02/26/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
It can't be explained, but it can be experienced. Mushrooms can take you there if you let them.




See, this is what I am talking about. Hippie bullshit. Yes, I've taken mushrooms and LSD, and yes, they made me think about other human beings as just myself, as the whole world is pointless yet so important, how things wouldn't matter if we existed or didn't exist at all. Tripping has not changed my overall perspective though

really, I just don't see how this ties in with the topic of 'average human', because the 'average human' is normally against the use of drug use. hence why I don't understand this 'divinity' you mentioned, there is certainly nothing divine about mushrooms... mushrooms are just simply a psychedelic drug


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: broken]
    #14030261 - 02/26/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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closed veil said:
Quote:

DungeonMaster said:
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closed veil said:
who's to say what's average.




Statistics, that's who. :confused:




those are numbers dude. we are talking about people right?




Well, do you know the definition of AVERAGE? It goes right with statistics.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030284 - 02/26/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You're such a bummer, dude.:facepalm:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: thoughts]
    #14030285 - 02/26/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why do you say that? I certainly don't think so


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030295 - 02/26/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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there is certainly nothing divine about mushrooms... mushrooms are just simply a psychedelic drug





As a contrasting profile, can you name some things you consider divine?


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030298 - 02/26/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Statistical data says a lot about people.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030299 - 02/26/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My perceptions might be wrong, but it seems like you're just bringing things down a bit.:shrug:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14030303 - 02/26/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I view them as pretty similar to you.




Vile ostriches?


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: thoughts]
    #14030308 - 02/26/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Pessimists, UNITE! :tongue:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030315 - 02/26/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Some people are dicks, some people are saints, most of us are in the middle.
Can anyone argue with that?:rolleyes::rofl:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: i like cow poo]
    #14030324 - 02/26/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think the majority of people are lost without a sense of purpose or direction.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: i like cow poo]
    #14030338 - 02/26/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No, but we can ask what generalizations apply to the folks in the middle, can't we? It doesn't give us an accurate depiction of an individual, but it can shed some light on how we conceptualize the common American man.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030352 - 02/26/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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who's to say what's average.




Statistics, that's who. :confused:




those are numbers dude. we are talking about people right?




Well, do you know the definition of AVERAGE? It goes right with statistics.




You both have a point.  You can get a mean with statistics and probability.  But you can also interpret the numbers anyway you want. As far as asking"Whose to say what is average?"  Good question!  I am probably average build, average intelligence, average taste in aesthetics, etc.  But I my view on spirituality, politics, meaning of life, etc. are probably considered to be a bit eccentric.  So, it is up to you how you interpret the numbers. :2cents:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Asante]
    #14030354 - 02/26/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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My perceptions might be wrong, but it seems like you're just bringing things down a bit.:shrug:




You misunderstand... I'm simply trying to understand his point of view more than anything, despite me saying its hippy bullshit, I just like to call things that

I am allowed my own opinion on things, no? I'm not trying to say he is wrong, BTW. Just my take on it.



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there is certainly nothing divine about mushrooms... mushrooms are just simply a psychedelic drug





As a contrasting profile, can you name some things you consider divine?




Sure: Death, deep meditation, breathing and simply life itself. I consider these the divinities of life.. are they truly divine? I don't know.. I wouldn't consider anything truly divine, honestly, I think the word divine is very misleading

But I don't consider mushrooms divine, just like I wouldn't say LSD is divine.

I would call them very amazing drugs, that do incredible things with the right mind set. However, for me, drugs are more recreational experiences more than anything. There is nothing left for me to learn


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    #14030358 - 02/26/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I view the average person as being very mediocre.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Hakim0777]
    #14030365 - 02/26/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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pretty accurate.



Thank you Hakim.  I think that this is where we are headed. Anybody who hasn't seen idiocracy should.  Then think about the average American.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030373 - 02/26/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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There is nothing left for me to learn




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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030380 - 02/26/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Now we are understood.:thumbup:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Asante]
    #14030390 - 02/26/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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There is nothing left for me to learn




:sad: sorry to hear that man.




There is nothing sad about it. Psychedelic drugs have put some great insight in my life. I do not have a need for them. When I use them now its only for recreational purposes or for a mind refreshening... but I feel that I've got what I needed out of them and I am done with them. This is a very positive thing for me. I've done more drugs than I should have for my age.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Asante]
    #14030397 - 02/26/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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There is nothing left for me to learn




:sad: sorry to hear that man.




Not to derail my own thread, but you don't ever think to yourself that maybe the hallucinations are just a visual/emotional projection of what you want to believe, rather than the reality of our objective existence?

Like when you do a big DMT dose and the elves shower you with unconditional love, that maybe it's really a projection of your own ego showering you with a subtle backrub?


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030438 - 02/26/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think the important question here is what is average?

Is it the type of person that holds the beliefs and likes that are a common denominator to half of the population? Wouldn't it be so?

Or does average mean the simple person who doesn't stand out of the crowd in any way and is very predictable in all their beliefs and likes?

And yeah, sorry for re-railing your topic...:hehehe:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030445 - 02/26/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What is the average person: Hard to explain.

Based on money: middle class. Family, 2 kids, 40 hours a week job

Based on usefulness to society, Id say, the same.

SAdly here on the shroomery, many of us are below average..we hold no jobs and some of us are addicted to drugs.... Making some us at the bottom of the food chain 'problem with society' people.

My other guess would be: not fit, not overweight, politically neutral, IQ of 100-110 that realised early they were never gonna be the next bill gates or the next champion.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030451 - 02/26/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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There is nothing left for me to learn




:sad: sorry to hear that man.




Not to derail my own thread, but you don't ever think to yourself that maybe the hallucinations are just a visual/emotional projection of what you want to believe, rather than the reality of our objective existence?

Like when you do a big DMT dose and the elves shower you with unconditional love, that maybe it's really a projection of your own ego showering you with a subtle backrub?




It certainly could be. Taking a drug in and of itself is normally taken out of some form to achieve self gratification and happiness, no? I suppose I can't talk about the experience of DMT considering I've never tried it... but unless you have some kind of wacky spiritual purpose that I can't comprehend...and even then, that would be for self gratification to improve yourself in some shape or form.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Patlal]
    #14030460 - 02/26/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would say the average person is addicted to drugs :shrug: be it alcohol, caffeine, weed, or heroin.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Patlal]
    #14030483 - 02/26/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah but wouldn't average mean the way most people are? And that would be relative to the society they live in, right? I'm just asking because even people who fit the description of average(middle class,2 kids, etc.) might have some interesting passion or hobby, while others might not, so if it's like that you can't dismiss a huge group of people because they are average.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: 13.step]
    #14030494 - 02/26/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i like people :shrug:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: pfxtc]
    #14030502 - 02/26/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Me too...unless they piss me off...:lol:


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14030506 - 02/26/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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There is nothing left for me to learn




:sad: sorry to hear that man.




There is nothing sad about it. Psychedelic drugs have put some great insight in my life. I do not have a need for them. When I use them now its only for recreational purposes or for a mind refreshening... but I feel that I've got what I needed out of them and I am done with them. This is a very positive thing for me. I've done more drugs than I should have for my age.




hahaha

you're funny


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: pfxtc]
    #14030519 - 02/26/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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There is nothing left for me to learn




:sad: sorry to hear that man.




There is nothing sad about it. Psychedelic drugs have put some great insight in my life. I do not have a need for them. When I use them now its only for recreational purposes or for a mind refreshening... but I feel that I've got what I needed out of them and I am done with them. This is a very positive thing for me. I've done more drugs than I should have for my age.




hahaha

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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14030532 - 02/26/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't like most people. They are stupid and play stupid petty games.
You guys are cool I guess, but the rest of those fucks I just don't know...


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Shroomism]
    #14030570 - 02/26/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't like most people. They are stupid and play stupid petty games.
You guys are cool I guess, but the rest of those fucks I just don't know...




hey man

people are so disillusioned in their own bullshit

including me and you

it's just to what degree and what aspect

we're all the same entity, the trees and sky included

just living out our drama's.

some of us have a house note to catch up on. some of us are being cut down to be made into paper.

just drama.

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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: twighead]
    #14030574 - 02/26/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I would say the average person is addicted to drugs :shrug: be it alcohol, caffeine, weed, or heroin.




That's very reasonable to say, between cigarettes and coffee I'm sure the 60% mark is passed at least.

When I say average I guess what I'm asking for is your mental picture of your peers, and those within a generation either way. I base the picture off my classmates and coworkers, the random mix of first time home buyers I encountered in the past, the few hundred small business owners I've talked to, my parents and their friends/peers.

I notice similarities that seem to breach the differences in environments, ages and perspectives. Things like a strong desire to impress the people around them, disinterest in reading and self education, frequently misunderstanding other people, strong religious beliefs without a well formed argument behind it or desire to read their holy book, acceptance of questionable business ethics if times are hard(gotta get mine), having conversations about commercials, etc. Also some positive traits, like being able to solve problems when they really need to try, wanting a better life for themselves and sometimes others, standing up for themselves when they have to.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: pfxtc]
    #14030616 - 02/26/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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so a hard worker should not reward themselves with good food and nice things?



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There is nothing left for me to learn




:sad: sorry to hear that man.




There is nothing sad about it. Psychedelic drugs have put some great insight in my life. I do not have a need for them. When I use them now its only for recreational purposes or for a mind refreshening... but I feel that I've got what I needed out of them and I am done with them. This is a very positive thing for me. I've done more drugs than I should have for my age.




hahaha

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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: pfxtc]
    #14034173 - 02/27/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I know.. I was just being facetious

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    #14034192 - 02/27/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14034220 - 02/27/11 02:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I often wonder how y'all view the average man/woman that represents society as a whole. My views make me fairly pessimistic, but at the same time I have a lot of faith in humanity that comes from witnessing great feats accomplished by tight-nit groups.

I spent years in sales and whether I was talking to a homeowner or a coworker, the picture I have of society consists mainly of idiots who never question the nature of their daily life and spend their money as soon as they get it on bullshit they don't need in a pathetic attempt to impress the people around them. I can't cast the first stone b/c I went down that path too, I just saw that it was empty early on. I've also met intelligent, empathetic people who realized how unimportant all the material shit is, but they have been few and far between.

I told coworkers that I'd rather pay off another grand on my car loan than spend it all on clothes, sushi, strippers, cocaine and alcohol and they thought I was crazy. I pointed out to some of them (before saying it to my manager) that our product never worked; that we were stealing from small business owners to fuel our parties and lifestyles; they immediately shunned me. Nobody was willing to talk about it, instead they ratted me out to the higher ups as a dissenter and I was fired.

Based on your experiences, is this a fairly accurate picture of how most people are, or does my picture only represent the morally poor demographic of salespeople? I saw the same shit in the eyes of the homeowners I used to sell to, so I've used that as evidence that my perception is just the way most people are. What do you think?

:strokebeard:




I also worked in sales for a while.  It really makes you hate people.  Idiots...

The funny thing is, if you dont know how to research a product on google and read TONS of info and reviews from people who have actually used the item, then your an idiot, or old.

So by default, people that listen to sales pitches from paid employees who have no experience with the product, are idiots.
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    #14034258 - 02/27/11 02:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

average person? anyone who isnt me is irrelevant until they come into my life


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Envix]
    #14034626 - 02/27/11 06:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I really like people, most of the time though i just wish they would wake the fuck up!


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    #14035097 - 02/27/11 10:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

but really, what the fuck is an "average person"? Theres no such thang.


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Re: How do you view the average person? [Re: Asante]
    #14043297 - 02/28/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The average person is poorly understood, especially by themselves. Manouvre between the unsavory habits, failed coping strategies and the autopilot functioning and you will find someone sincerely lovable and well-intentioned. Penetrate deeper and you find Divinity, you look directly in the face of God, face to face with That Which Is All Things And None.

When I see the Other, I see myself, and its often a shocking confrontation. Rejecting them is ultimately self rejection though - I try not to do that.

The average person needs a hug :hug: but they are too scared to let that happen to a deep level.



I agree, with the exception of some people that are just profoundly stupid. It sounds mean, less-than-transcendent, etc. but I'm involved with some and they're just hopeless. Not enough gears upstairs to be anything more than a glorified machine/animal. Sad, really.


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