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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: Buckthorn] * 5
    #14026806 - 02/25/11 05:59 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Go. She's your mom. Remember? The same woman who carried you in her body for 9 months and gave painful birth to you. Later she changed your diapers, taught you to walk, put up with all your shenanigans yet still loved you unconditionally. You owe that woman a lot. The least you could do is attend her birthday party. She would do the same for you, no matter the inconvenience. Besides, she won't be with you forever. Cherish your mom while you still have her. It's the least you could do..

Edited by Le_Canard (02/26/11 08:31 AM)

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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14026842 - 02/25/11 06:07 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

This is all bollocks.

A birthday is completely imaginary.  So what if he doesn't go?  Why is everyone in this thread pressuring him to fall into line with imaginary expectations?

You can still love your mother and be the best person in the world.  If you show that to each then you've had a good loving relationship. 

I think anyone that judges based on some imaginary shit on 1 day of the year is completely out of context with reality.  If your parents think that then they are well brainwashed and thats unfortunate.  I don't know OPs reasoning - it could be good or bad but theres no reason to judge and everyone say he must go or be branded a scumbag.

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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14026926 - 02/25/11 06:27 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
Go. She's your mom. Remember? The same woman who carried you in her body for 9 months and gave painful birth to you. Later she changed your diapers, taught you to walk, put up with all your shenanigans yet still loved you unconditionally. You owe that woman a lot. The least you could do is attend her birthday party. She's do the same for you, no matter the inconvenience. Besides, she won't be with you forever. Cherish your mom while you still have her. It's the least you could do..




:thumbup:

Yes you should go. It will mean a lot to her. You are a scumbag for not going.

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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: bryguy27007]
    #14027336 - 02/25/11 08:08 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

yea go to the party dude. maybe there will be some crusty old poon that wants to sit on your face after it. :borfase:

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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14028456 - 02/26/11 12:15 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

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nice1 said:
This is all bollocks.

A birthday is completely imaginary.  So what if he doesn't go?  Why is everyone in this thread pressuring him to fall into line with imaginary expectations?

You can still love your mother and be the best person in the world.  If you show that to each then you've had a good loving relationship. 

I think anyone that judges based on some imaginary shit on 1 day of the year is completely out of context with reality.  If your parents think that then they are well brainwashed and thats unfortunate.  I don't know OPs reasoning - it could be good or bad but theres no reason to judge and everyone say he must go or be branded a scumbag.




Because unless he has some valid reason (obscene hatred, high on mushrooms, restraining order...) 
because It's his mother, an essential part of his personal Myth and reason for being around.  Wouldn't
you want to just be there for her on this milestone day, even just showing up might make her happy.

Whatever happened to honor thy mother and father?
Respect your elders?
Honor those who have come before you?
Etc..

My mother passed away when I was just a young boy, nineteen years ago, and it makes me sad
when I see people taking their mother for granted.
Don't get me wrong, some mothers can be hateful bitches, it happens.  But I can't help but want him
to enjoy it all anyways.

Much love and all that jazz. :heart:


Because unless he has some valid reason (obscene hatred, high on mushrooms, restraining order...) 
because It's his mother, an essential part of his personal Myth and reason for being around.  Wouldn't
you want to just be there for her on this milestone day, even just showing up might make her happy.

Whatever happened to honor thy mother and father?
Respect your elders?
Honor those who have come before you?
Etc..

My mother passed away when I was just a young boy, nineteen years ago, and it makes me sad
when I see people taking their mother for granted.
Don't get me wrong, some mothers can be hateful bitches, it happens.  But I can't help but want him
to enjoy it all anyways.

Much love and all that jazz. :heart:


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Go. She's your mom. Remember? The same woman who carried you in her body for 9 months and gave painful birth to you. Later she changed your diapers, taught you to walk, put up with all your shenanigans yet still loved you unconditionally. You owe that woman a lot. The least you could do is attend her birthday party. She's do the same for you, no matter the inconvenience. Besides, she won't be with you forever. Cherish your mom while you still have her. It's the least you could do..




Seriously!  Listen to the Shroomery this time man, we have it in your best interest.



Seriously!  Listen to the Shroomery this time man, we have it in your best interest.


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Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
GODS.


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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: Todcasil]
    #14028461 - 02/26/11 12:17 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

just playing the odds, 99.9% scumbag weather you go or not.


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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #14028477 - 02/26/11 12:21 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

That whole "not going to invest in you" comment by dad makes me think
RP is spoiled college kid or something.


That whole "not going to invest in you" comment by dad makes me think
RP is spoiled college kid or something.


:todcasil:


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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: Todcasil]
    #14029208 - 02/26/11 07:58 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

I think if his mother and father judge him on that then they are misguided as well.  I just have no respect for pressurized social expectations that have no basis in reality.

I feel the same about Xmas - its utter bollocks - nobody today has even bothered to learn where the tradition comes from hence the complete commercial perversion of it.

I get your point man and I agree - I just don't agree with the logic set thats been put here about being a scum bag or bad son for not falling into line like a good lemming over  a fictitious concept that doesn't actually judge how good a person or son he is at all.

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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: nice1]
    #14029213 - 02/26/11 08:03 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

but it does have a basis in reality, because people really celebrate birthdays

there's no earth shattering event that coincides, but to say it has no basis in reality makes no sense


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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: DrMambo]
    #14029248 - 02/26/11 08:14 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

A celebration on a particular day is a fictional concept.  She has been brought up to believe that he should come and bring her a present or whatever else expectations they have but thats all it is.  A belief. 

I don't accept beliefs just because everyone else does.

I'm sure he probably should go for the sake of his mum but there are other possibilities here and I'm a firm believer that people should not to be forced to adhere to social expectations that are fictional.  I don't see this in a dualistic way or believe that the only possibility is "go or be a scumbag".  What irks me more is how everyone in this thread jumped straight into that dualistic mindset and on the social pressure bandwagon with no information on why he didn't want to go.

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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: nice1]
    #14029257 - 02/26/11 08:18 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

If they never did anything positive for you, fuck 'em

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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: nice1]
    #14029260 - 02/26/11 08:19 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

nice1 said:
This is all bollocks.

A birthday is completely imaginary.






you're right, that is bollocks, a birthday is the day a person is born,
they're celebrating the anniversary of the date of birth, far from imaginary
and it certainly holds real meaning for most of the world

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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: nice1]
    #14029265 - 02/26/11 08:21 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

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A celebration on a particular day is a fictional concept.



Quote:

people should not to be forced to adhere to social expectations that are fictional.



There's a fatal flaw in your reasoning. Yes, a birthday is an arbitrarily chosen festivity. But human expectations are anything but fictional.

OP: If you want to hurt other peoples' feelings, go ahead. But it does make you a dickhead. Or a scumbag.

I wish my mom had lived for me to make this decision. And let me tell you one thing: I would have attended. Plenty of other nights I can selfishly stay at home and blaze all night.

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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: koraks]
    #14029303 - 02/26/11 08:41 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

you should be there in spite of the fact that your dad is a dick.  Trying to guilt me into doing anything is just more insurance that I won't.  Go and discreetly take your dad aside and tell him he was being an asshole.


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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: Dunno]
    #14029338 - 02/26/11 08:50 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

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Dunno said:
Quote:

Enpo said:
Tonight is my mom's 50th birthday surprise party and i really do not want to go.

My dad attempted to persuade me into going by putting me on a guilt trip, telling me I'll regret this for the rest of my life and that he's "not going to invest in me." He said I'm going to be showing my family and mother that I'm "not a caring person."

Am I a scumbag if I don't show?




no, youre not. i mean, who the fuck wants to go to that. the thing is, you need to push aside your scumbag feelings for one night and do this for your mom. its a big night for her. fucking menopause and all. be there for your mom. not yourself.

besides, no one said you had to be sober....




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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: robbyberto]
    #14029348 - 02/26/11 08:53 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Yes, if you have to ask!

Now I will go read the OP.


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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: nice1] * 1
    #14029372 - 02/26/11 09:02 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

No, I was wrong, asshole would be the correct term, scumbags overstep moral issues for personal gain, it's somewhat understandable, assholes on the other hand...

But seriously, why don't you want to go? Do you have anything better to do? Do you hate her for whatever reason? Or are you indeed just an asshole, and can't be fucked to? Make her happy man if it means so much to her, and it no bother to you.

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nice1 said:
This is all bollocks.

A birthday is completely imaginary.  So what if he doesn't go?  Why is everyone in this thread pressuring him to fall into line with imaginary expectations?

You can still love your mother and be the best person in the world.  If you show that to each then you've had a good loving relationship. 

I think anyone that judges based on some imaginary shit on 1 day of the year is completely out of context with reality.  If your parents think that then they are well brainwashed and thats unfortunate.  I don't know OPs reasoning - it could be good or bad but theres no reason to judge and everyone say he must go or be branded a scumbag.




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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: Buckthorn]
    #14029378 - 02/26/11 09:03 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Yes, OP, you are a scumbag.

Your parent's provide a roof over your head and raise you, the least you could do is show up.

Fictional or not, the point is that the event means a lot to his mom.  Showing up for a few hours is the very least an ungreatful child could do.


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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: koraks]
    #14029459 - 02/26/11 09:23 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

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koraks said:
But human expectations are anything but fictional.





Scientology is real too ya know?  It must be if an imaginary creation of the human mind is a physical construct to you.  Time is not real, dates are not real, birthday celebrations are something we do based on a fictional belief set.  If you raised a child without creating this fiction in their head then the concept of a yearly birthday celebration would not exist.

IMO op could be the best son in the world and not want to go to this event because its pretentious.  Nothing wrong with that.  You only see it as wrong because you buy into the fiction and result with the dualist mindset the majority have presented here.

Now, I'm off to live with the wolfs :cool:

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Re: Am I a scumbag [Re: nice1] * 1
    #14029495 - 02/26/11 09:32 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

They might have birthdays to...:lol:, get a pig carcass to fit in


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