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Re: A Few Questions about B+, like its name... [Re: Hashishin13]
    #14031638 - 02/26/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh jesus, not the B+... Let the stories begin... lol :rolleyes:


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Re: A Few Questions about B+, like its name... [Re: EnterTheMoon]
    #14031667 - 02/26/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ok, to get this totally straight, when b+ was first discovered it was growing naturally in nature?




A wild mushroom gave spores.
Those spores led to fruits and more spores.
Those later spores were named B+.

That's it. That's all it is, a family name like RR said.
Some families look alike, some don't. But there's variance.
Same with intelligence, or anything else.


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Re: A Few Questions about B+, like its name... [Re: Hashishin13]
    #23733958 - 10/13/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If there is no difference between B+ and other 'strains' such as golden teacher, then why do a lot of people seem to say that b+ is easier to grow? is this just in their imagination? because if a cube is a cube, then all these 'strains' which people just make up the name of, would all be as easy to grow as each other, right?


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Re: A Few Questions about B+, like its name... [Re: EnterTheMoon]
    #23734095 - 10/13/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Holy crap dude you came back 5 years later with the same question!?

That's nuts.

B+ is just a name. All normal cubes are the same difficulty to grow
so just get whichever and work on isolating good genes


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Re: A Few Questions about B+, like its name... [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23734193 - 10/13/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The only cube Iv'e noticed any difference in growing is PE and thats only cause they are slooooowwww. Every other strain I've grown for all intents and purposes have been the same.  The best explanation for B+ was that it is notorious for being very hallow in the stem. So instead of giving it an A for overall performance, it got a b+! :cool:


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Re: A Few Questions about B+, like its name... [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #23736997 - 10/14/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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natedawgnow said:
Holy crap dude you came back 5 years later with the same question!?

That's nuts.

B  is just a name. All normal cubes are the same difficulty to grow
so just get whichever and work on isolating good genes




lol, yeah natedawgnow, I haven't stopped doing shrooms each autumn but I have been away from this place for a while eh.

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Aiko Aiko said:
The only cube Iv'e noticed any difference in growing is PE and thats only cause they are slooooowwww. Every other strain I've grown for all intents and purposes have been the same.  The best explanation for B+ was that it is notorious for being very hallow in the stem. So instead of giving it an A for overall performance, it got a b+! :cool:




You see, there it is again though, you're saying that all b+ have a certain characteristc; in this case it is not that they are easy to grow but that they have 'hollow stems'. If  cube is just a cube, then this attribute wouldn't be isolated specifically to B+ surely? rather you would have cubes with varying stem density, whether you were talking about cubes that someone had been labelled'B+' or not.


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Re: A Few Questions about B+, like its name... [Re: EnterTheMoon]
    #23737033 - 10/14/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think when people say a cube is a cube, they mean as a very general statement. Of course you are going to have variation in characteristics from strain to strain, and yes, by cultivating them those characteristics can very well be isolated. B+ are just an average cube, nothing great, but still easy to grow and produces the effects you are looking for, I dont think it gets more complicated than that.


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Re: A Few Questions about B+, like its name... [Re: EnterTheMoon]
    #23737039 - 10/14/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

a couple of things:

1. just like RR told you, a "strain" is a pairing of compatible hyphae, has nothing to do with what someone wrote on a syringe. what you are referring to is a race, just like races of humans, or races of dogs

2. B+, if i recall correctly, was created by Mr. G, who also created A strain, etc. It has 2 main variations, version 1 and version 2. the main reason people say it is easy to grow is because it is a highly domesticated race, since it has been being cultured for a long time, all over the world. By adapting to flourish in artificial conditions rather than the wild, the race has become very domesticated, just like how it is easier to raise pug dogs than wolves, or farm pigs vs wild boars

3. you are correct, no attribute is isolated to a particular race, just like asian people arent the only ones with black hair. it is a matter of selective reproduction, selective culturing, and the mycellium's natural adaptations to artificial conditions over many generations. there is a LOT of genetic diversity in a spore print

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Re: A Few Questions about B+, like its name... [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #23737530 - 10/14/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This thread is against the rules now.  :shrug:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14960167


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Re: A Few Questions about B+, like its name... [Re: Inocuole]
    #23738109 - 10/14/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This thread is so old Doc_T responded to it...


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