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rduke23
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stupid question
#14028875 - 02/26/11 03:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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when placing the cakes in the fruiting chamber, does it make a difference which side is up or down? the bottom of the cake or the top with the scraped off layer of verm? thanks.
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k00laid
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Re: stupid question [Re: rduke23]
#14028878 - 02/26/11 03:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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no sir
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Re: stupid question [Re: k00laid]
#14028892 - 02/26/11 03:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Put the verm side downward as it has no (the slowest) potential to fruit.
Edited by Microppose (02/26/11 03:58 AM)
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slapphappypill
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Azurascender said: Put the verm side downward as it has no potential to fruit.
Lies, all lies, I get fruits off both ends.
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Microppose
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Haha well which end logically fruits first? :o
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slapphappypill
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Verm layer pins first most the time for me, and I always put it verm side down... my cakes start to lift up and I normally pull harvest it. Now I fruit verm side up and have been getting better pinsets.
It just matters what side colonizes facing up I think
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Natural tendency to fight gravity maybe? I haven't done a cake in YEARS so I don't know shit I guess haha. Go with your heart OP....
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Re: stupid question [Re: rduke23]
#14029297 - 02/26/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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from my experience, it will most likely, and fruit first, from the area most recently colonized, where there is most active and rhizomorphic growth. it can fruit anywhere, but it will have to use stored energy to regenerate from areas that have been dormant when exposed to light. look for where there is active growth.
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Re: stupid question [Re: Shaw]
#14029316 - 02/26/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If your humidity is off, it'll generally fruit from the bottom regardless of which side is up. It's easy to see when this happens because the area closest to the perlite will go first.
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Re: stupid question [Re: afrosheen]
#14029357 - 02/26/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It doesnt really matter IMO, ive had them fruit from the bottom, the sides, and on top..
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Re: stupid question [Re: afrosheen]
#14029358 - 02/26/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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heres a post from 2 days ago
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RogerRabbit said: It's been long known that flipping a substrate from its original position during colonization is a major pinning trigger. Shiitake growers have used this technique for centuries.
In addition, the bottom of 1/2 pint jars is convex, leaving a concave indentation on the bottom of the cake. After birthing, if this side is placed up, it gives a place to pile up some vermiculite which can then be soaked with water every few days.
Once a cake is pinning, leave it the hell alone. However, after birthing, flipping the cake so the original bottom becomes the top is desired. It's not absolutely necessary of course, but desired. It's also not necessary to baby cakes during birthing. If it doesn't seem to want to come out of the jar, slam the jar down on a cutting board or some other wood surface hard enough to dislodge it. RR
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