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    #14028114 - 02/25/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck yes. It worked out perfectly! finally. lol. No idea how much that weighs.




Enjoy the pictars.

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14028130 - 02/25/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

omgomgomg i have to fucking do this :p


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14028144 - 02/25/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

DAMN IT I WANT IT SO BAD!

THAT CRYSTAL FORMATION IS SO PERFECT.
:zomgwtf:


How much bark did you use to get that?


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: The_Ghost]
    #14028250 - 02/25/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

100grams of powdered stuff. Just follow it exactly as the stb tek says and before you pull the naphtha out, give it a hot water bath it really helps.


:smile:


Also that's the first pull and i didn't even take out all of the naphtha because my pipette sucks. Or i just have horrible skills with a pipette.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: astrolope]
    #14028257 - 02/25/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

do what bro?


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14028306 - 02/25/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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100grams of powdered stuff. Just follow it exactly as the stb tek says and before you pull the naphtha out, give it a hot water bath it really helps.


:smile:



Thanks for teh tip on the hot water bath. My main obstacle is the smell. I have to keep my thangs on the downlow from my roommates and i know the smell is pretty suspect.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14028321 - 02/25/11 11:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My last batch of roots was crap :frown:. I can still do more pulls, but it doesn't look like i'm going to get much more. How long do you stir/rotate the container? I warm it and do it for an hour total.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Moo456]
    #14028358 - 02/25/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

When i add the naphtha i try stirring it every 10-15 mins for a good minute or so. If you keep it warm through out the process it will work out great.

Sucks you got bunk roots :\


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: The_Ghost]
    #14028422 - 02/26/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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100grams of powdered stuff. Just follow it exactly as the stb tek says and before you pull the naphtha out, give it a hot water bath it really helps.


:smile:



Thanks for teh tip on the hot water bath. My main obstacle is the smell. I have to keep my thangs on the downlow from my roommates and i know the smell is pretty suspect.




it wont smell too bad if you stick to the freeze precipitate. Now if you let the napthla dry out in a pan in open air method then thats another thing


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: laruta_21]
    #14028840 - 02/26/11 02:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

1. stick all in a vape

2. fill vape bag

3. ?????

4. profit!

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14028867 - 02/26/11 03:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It's enough to send you to infinity for about 7 minutes. Maybe more than once.
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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14028983 - 02/26/11 05:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Fuck yes. It worked out perfectly! finally. lol. No idea how much that weighs.




Enjoy the pictars.

:Awemazing:  :feelsgoodman:


:deemsters::deemsters::deemsters::deemsters:



:homerdrool: is it okay if I :pm: u at some point when I get around to extraction :yesnod:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: mellowparty]
    #14029002 - 02/26/11 05:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)


I dont give a fuck.

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: runMD]
    #14029012 - 02/26/11 05:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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It's enough to send you to infinity for about 7 minutes. Maybe more than once.
:costanza:





maybe more then once? thats enough to send him balls deep into hyperspace and back like 10-15 times bro


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: The_Ghost]
    #14029234 - 02/26/11 08:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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100grams of powdered stuff. Just follow it exactly as the stb tek says and before you pull the naphtha out, give it a hot water bath it really helps.


:smile:



Thanks for teh tip on the hot water bath. My main obstacle is the smell. I have to keep my thangs on the downlow from my roommates and i know the smell is pretty suspect.




As long as you do everything in airtight mason jars you should be fine. You would have to hide them well in the freezer though


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14029246 - 02/26/11 08:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If 50mg is about a match head size. Than I could probably lift off about 20-30 times.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14029266 - 02/26/11 08:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

50mg is definitely more than a match head size


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: lumadaylight9]
    #14029383 - 02/26/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Really? Um.. how much would u say is 50mg of dmt


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14029630 - 02/26/11 10:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Fuck yes. It worked out perfectly! finally. lol. No idea how much that weighs.




Enjoy the pictars.

:Awemazing:  :feelsgoodman:


:deemsters::deemsters::deemsters::deemsters:




Man just looking at that shit gives me the shakes.

20mg is usually equated to the 'matchhead' size.

Really its hard to tell.  Just start small and work your way up.  The ONLY way to lose is to do too much.

Each time you load your bowl make sure you take into account any residual DMT that may be leftover.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Humility]
    #14029688 - 02/26/11 10:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Smoke it bro and then ask questions later.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14029761 - 02/26/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

just be ready for it, cos once you get a big hit of it, if you dont know what your in for, once it kicks in you will just be like this  :shock: and you will think to yourself " i done goofed now " :lol:

But once you lay back and submit you will enjoy it and its amazing


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14030681 - 02/26/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My exact thoughts. I'm definitely gonna try to let any fears melt away. last time I did it I noticed anxiety and fears melt away.


Its such an inviting feeling.

Ill let u guys know how it goes.

Most likely gonna do it tonight or tomorrow. I was thinking of empting a light bulb out and doing it that way. I'm not to good at smoking crack. :/


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14030734 - 02/26/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I get scared shitless before I do it but once I do I have no fear.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14030751 - 02/26/11 02:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Very happy for you. :awecid:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: mellowparty]
    #14031022 - 02/26/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Very very okay!

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: 28064212] * 1
    #14032677 - 02/26/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:feelshighman:


Feels damn good.. lol.


Thanks

At first i was all :uhoh: and my friend said :justdontknow: so i said :justdontknow:. Than we got :stoned2: and did the :deemsters: but it looked more like :meff: to be honest...  and were all like  :trippinballs: and :realawe: feelin all kinds of: :realpacman:  :durrhurr:  :feelsweirdman:  :boxerface:  :braindamage:  :awecid: but we didn't break thru but it was still pretty good.  :curbyourenthusiasm:  :costanza:  hehehe


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14032982 - 02/26/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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:feelshighman:


Feels damn good.. lol.


Thanks

At first i was all :uhoh: and my friend said :justdontknow: so i said :justdontknow:. Than we got :stoned2: and did the :deemsters: but it looked more like :meff: to be honest...  and were all like  :trippinballs: and :realawe: feelin all kinds of: :realpacman:  :durrhurr:  :feelsweirdman:  :boxerface:  :braindamage:  :awecid: but we didn't break thru but it was still pretty good.  :curbyourenthusiasm:  :costanza:  hehehe


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14032989 - 02/26/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Invest in a magnetic stirrer and stir bars. You will thank me. Stir that bitch 24/7 through the entire process. :machinegun:

edit - You'll probably want a pretty chunky one. 100 grams of bark is pretty thick to stir. I think I was using one at least 1.5" to 2". The floating stir bars look awesome. They would stop the rattling that happens if the bottom of your jar is domed and not flat. It takes some practice to find the sweet spot to stir without much noise with a domed bottom jar. I think the stir speed also plays a role with the stir bar hitting a certain frequency that causes it to rattle more or less.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14033255 - 02/26/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just had a breakthrough experience this night.  Loading "eyeball" amounts into the pipe and just going for it :thumbup:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Anhoktohen]
    #14033391 - 02/26/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ive never tried dmt..  never came across it..  i guess the only way is to make it yourself eh?  i tried salvia and i HATED it!  i did it 4 times every time i said i would never do it again..  does dmt compare?  is it super intense?  ive also done real lsd, dxm, shrooms..  does it compare to those?  how long does the trip last when pooked?  can you guys post up some links for where to buy the raw materials and the extraction technique used to get results like that?


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: wow]
    #14033461 - 02/26/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Salvia is nothing compared to dmt. Salvia always sends me into this black oblivion where there is nothing until reality starts to seep back into my consciousness. Dmt will overlay your reality with kaleidoscopes and Aztec/ Mayan looking fractals RIGHT before your fucking eyes. It is truly amazing. Check eBay for MHRB.

I always eyeball my doses. 50mg is about the diameter of a Dime and I'd say 2-4mm thick. You really don't have much to worry about. If you smoke too much, you'll just enjoy it either way. It can be overwhelming because of the quick onset, but once you get cozy with it, you'll love it.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14034945 - 02/27/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah you're right. It's nothing like Salvia, or any other drug. Although the quick onset can be compared to the quick onset of Salvia. It hits you really fast, but doesn't make you feel like a retard  :braindamage:  who's incapable of doing absolutely nothing but figuring out why the world is not on a 'tilt'.

DMT's quick onset is quite enjoyable after you've done it.

The taste and smell is horrible, just horrible. Like plastic. I usually put some kind of herb with the crystals, like mint or parsley or even a tiny nug of bud just to cover up the taste.

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14035119 - 02/27/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Speaking of putting it with weed, have you tried smoking it in a regular bowl with weed underneath and nothing on top? Just keep the flame about a half of an inch to an inch above the bowl and just lick the bowl with the flame until it hits the melting point and saturates the weed and begins to sublimate. You may start a tiny pin point sized ember with the flame at times, but just stamp it out with your finger, and all is well. Once you break through and are sure the dose is toast, smoke that bowl up!


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14036877 - 02/27/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

how long does the high last typicaly?  if its freebased in a pookie?


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: wow]
    #14036914 - 02/27/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:uh:

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: wow]
    #14037833 - 02/27/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

5-15 minutes normally, with pure smoked dmt.


if you make a changa mix with an MAOI like caapi or something, it can make it last like 30 minutes to an hour when smoked i think (not sure on this exactly though).


If you eat the dmt after predosing with an MAOI the experience can last like 8 hours.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14042448 - 02/28/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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5-15 minutes normally, with pure smoked dmt.


if you make a changa mix with an MAOI like caapi or something, it can make it last like 30 minutes to an hour when smoked i think (not sure on this exactly though).


If you eat the dmt after predosing with an MAOI the experience can last like 8 hours.





So eating a few rue seeds (or whatever they are called) and eating a premeasured dose of pure freebase DMT will make you trip for that long?


Is it going to be as intense as smoked dmt for 8 hours? Or a build up to the intense high that you feel from vaporizing it. Details mangh details.

If the trip isnt like super duper mind blowing intense for 8 hours i feel like this would be the next best method for doing dimitri since it tastes like ass when vaporized.

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14044695 - 02/28/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure reall, i've never tried Ayahuasca/Pharamhuasca. I imagine it would be a little less intense then the smoked experience, but would be alot more malleable and alot more useful, in the sense that you have time to drift into the trip and go deep into the trip and take away lessons etc and do work during the trip, as opposed to just feeling like you've been run over by a train after smoking it.


You'd have to ask someone whos more experienced with Aya though, i don't know.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14048673 - 03/01/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have eaten dmt with an maoi twice now. The come up takes about an hour. You will feel like your cheeks have some "being" hanging onto them from behind your head, retracting them into a smile. Your hair will being to feel thin and whispy, and you'll get other tactile hallucination. Slowly fractals and kaleidoscopic patterns will seep into your vision and coat the walls, bed, and floor in a transparent layer that hovers about an inch off of all surfaces. Taking a shower on it is magical. You will stare at the water droplets on the walls and your body for a very long time. :rofl: It's a very forgiving psychedelic, honestly. You can have some intense realizations on it when you have time to integrate them though. :thumbup:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14048730 - 03/01/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

rue tastes like shit.

mimosa also tastes like shit.

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #14048739 - 03/01/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Try Caapi Copy and a limonene extraction, bro.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14048773 - 03/01/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i will look into it. thanks.

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btw what do you mean by caapi copy? i know what caapi is.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #14048899 - 03/01/11 02:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Caapi Copy is a premade extracted product you can buy. It tastes very bland and dry. I would say it's like eating something with the texture of dry cocoa powder, but it's very bland tasting. I'm not sure what else tastes like it, but it's basically pure Caapi alkaloids you can buy on the internet. I'd say the Caapi Copy tastes like eating mimosa powder straight. Just dry and tree bark tasting. :rofl: The limonene extraction is the best for ingesting it though. 100% food safe if you count the fact that lye isn't soluble in limonene. Also, you can pull a large variety of alkaloids with limonene. You will get a red tinted product, but it's active. Throw it in some pill capsules and eat it about thirty minutes after you eat the Caapi extract. You could save money by extracting your own Caapi alkaloids, but I always suggest people try the Caapi Copy first just to see if they even like oral dmt.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14049072 - 03/01/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

nice. very informative.

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14049084 - 03/01/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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100grams of powdered stuff. Just follow it exactly as the stb tek says and before you pull the naphtha out, give it a hot water bath it really helps.


:smile:


Also that's the first pull and i didn't even take out all of the naphtha because my pipette sucks. Or i just have horrible skills with a pipette.



u got xtals that white from powdered stuff? i had to double the water amount used in the stb tek to get xtals that snowy white

when i used the smaller 1/2 pt jars w/ less water my shit was brown



i got it white tho w/ a bestine recrystalization n my nxt batch doubled the water n got this :smile:



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    #14049136 - 03/01/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:realpacman: <<-- my brain is involuntarily making me do this to the screen


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14049918 - 03/01/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

lol me 2. Those crystals :homerdrool:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Envix]
    #14050526 - 03/01/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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100grams of powdered stuff. Just follow it exactly as the stb tek says and before you pull the naphtha out, give it a hot water bath it really helps.


:smile:


Also that's the first pull and i didn't even take out all of the naphtha because my pipette sucks. Or i just have horrible skills with a pipette.



u got xtals that white from powdered stuff? i had to double the water amount used in the stb tek to get xtals that snowy white

when i used the smaller 1/2 pt jars w/ less water my shit was brown



i got it white tho w/ a bestine recrystalization n my nxt batch doubled the water n got this :smile:







1/2 pint jars to do 50 mg of bark? i dont see how that would work since you need about 750ml of water which is about 2 cups or so...

NICE bag of white goodness, my stuff has a yellow tint. I will do more extractions soon and see if i get anything purer.

I use a milk jug. It works well. About 100 grams of powder mixture and water will come up about half way. I wish i had a big pickle jar though:frown:

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14050538 - 03/01/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I have eaten dmt with an maoi twice now. The come up takes about an hour. You will feel like your cheeks have some "being" hanging onto them from behind your head, retracting them into a smile. Your hair will being to feel thin and whispy, and you'll get other tactile hallucination. Slowly fractals and kaleidoscopic patterns will seep into your vision and coat the walls, bed, and floor in a transparent layer that hovers about an inch off of all surfaces. Taking a shower on it is magical. You will stare at the water droplets on the walls and your body for a very long time. :rofl: It's a very forgiving psychedelic, honestly. You can have some intense realizations on it when you have time to integrate them though. :thumbup:




:bigyesnod: sounds magical! I'm definitly gonna look into getting a MAOI. :blazed:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14050664 - 03/01/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i used 1500ml of water to get the white. when i tried using 750 i got an emulsion which resulted in nasty brown xtals

i found some quart jars & a local hardware shop


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Envix]
    #14051520 - 03/01/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ive never gotten white crystals from a stb though i never knew using more water would result in a cleaner product. I just tried marsofolds and its been working solid for me, I usually get a completely white product on first pull, slightly yellower on the 2, and damn near orange on the third.
everytime ive ever went straight to base i get a very harsh product, sometimes just goo.
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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Tydel]
    #14051554 - 03/01/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if u want whiter stuff just do a bestine recrystalization on ur tainted product

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Envix]
    #14051603 - 03/01/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ive heard bestine is readily available at The hobby Lobby? if im correct? anywhere else?
And if i followed my spice up with some bestine and recrystallized, what if i straight evaporated it? i heard that a slow evap in a pyrex dish can yield clear product. Wouldnt it be something to have some deems you can see through!


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Tydel]
    #14051998 - 03/01/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Deemsterz ftw! Good stuff u Got there. I do 1 kilo at a time in 4 ,1 gallon jugs. I pull it about 5-6 times over the course of 4 or 5 months for a total of about 11-13 grams of pure. That shit is something else. If u get a chance i def reccommend pharmahuasca. It haa differences from ayahuasca which i also highly recommend setting aside 10-15 grams to make sum yummy brew! Smoking it is great don't get me wrong but once u realize the answers this chemical holds then oral is where its at!


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: highc]
    #14052147 - 03/01/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i found my bestine @ a crafts store called "michaels".. u could prolly find it at any crafts store.. ive never done that evaporation thang so IDK bout that


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14052163 - 03/01/11 11:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I bought a pound of bark and my yield was only .3% :mad: I need to find a better source next time, I tried so many different teks and methods thinking I did something wrong but got the same yield every time.. :confused:

What little I did get was :awecid:


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    #14052205 - 03/01/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had a similar experience with my batch. Some roots just don't cut it. Nature in general has let me down lately. Bought a whole lot of dried cactus strips, and 90g dry was a very light dose. :mad2:


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    #14052250 - 03/01/11 11:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

DO WANT !:megacrankey:  (@RP)


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Envix]
    #14052271 - 03/02/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

evapping isnt as bad as i thought it would be, especially with an acid-basse xtraction,

i found that only after an hour or so of vapping a majority of it falls straight to the bottom and sticks, now these are hard ass crystals that stick to the glass, lol,

it was pretty cool,but the clear thing just pisses me off, it cant be that hard but i cant find any definite info on it anywhere,
im going to try a very slow evap, maybe covering 75 percent of my dish with plastic,
and covering the rest with filter paper, probaly take as much as a week or maybe even longer, but i bet when its done youd have some impressive shit,, ill post wit a log with some pics when i get around to it.

thanks for the info on the bestine dude, ive got a michaels about an hour away from here, im going that way in the next couple days or so, ima definiteley pick some up.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Tydel]
    #14052289 - 03/02/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Every time I see one of these threads I'm so tempted, then I look at my account balance and frown :sad:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: gzuf]
    #14052348 - 03/02/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Added naptha to my first ever earlier today:)
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    #14053904 - 03/02/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Added naptha to my first ever earlier today:)
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Give it multiple water baths. You will suck my dick, i mean thank me afterwards.

:awejeez: 
Heat up some water and put the jar or what ever your using into the water. Let it heat up and keep mixing it. NEVER EVER have the naptha out when you have a flame. EVER. NEVER.  Safety first.

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    #14053976 - 03/02/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Collect some money from your homies who are curious. :awehigh:


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    #14054055 - 03/02/11 11:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

front a g to a trustworthy friend, and have him work it for you..


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    #14054172 - 03/02/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14054996 - 03/02/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

At my Wal-Mart, you can buy these cookie jars individually. I have found the largest one works great for a 100g extraction. Just go by the instructions except use 1500ml of water if you are using powdered bark. Once you have everything in there according to the tek, add more water until the naptha sits in the tapered top part of the jar. That will give you a deeper area to baste from, so you can get more before you suck up the bottom layers. I'm not sure what the metal lid liner is made of, but it never started to break down with me. Be careful when tilting the jars, because it will run out when it is that full, unless you tighten the fuck out of the lid, but I have found the lid is very hard to remove when you do that, and you risk sloshing the contents trying to wrench it back open.



Something like this would be even better. It would give you a deeper top layer to baste from. Something with an even longer neck would be perfect, so that the whole top layer sits in the neck, and you leave behind very little, without disturbing the bottom layer. :awesome:



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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14055021 - 03/02/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Added naptha to my first ever earlier today:)
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Give it multiple water baths. You will suck my dick, i mean thank me afterwards.

:awejeez: 
Heat up some water and put the jar or what ever your using into the water. Let it heat up and keep mixing it. NEVER EVER have the naptha out when you have a flame. EVER. NEVER.  Safety first.

:Shulman:




Sparkless hotplate and stirrer combination unit, you will thank me later. :yesnod: Set up the water bath on the hotplate and stir away, matey! :pirate:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: destructo_low]
    #14077315 - 03/06/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A question:


How much dmt does it usually take you guys to breakthru? A full on experience into the 'realms' of dmt.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14077402 - 03/06/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

they say 50mg should get you there.

but some people just struggle to get in enough smoke in time to break through.


They also say 3 large lungfulls of smoke, held in, will also get you there.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14077424 - 03/06/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i've done about 50mg even more, and have finished everything in the bowl but still not getting up that high. Im not medicated either. I guess i gotta do a 100mg dose and see what happens.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14077477 - 03/06/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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A question:


How much dmt does it usually take you guys to breakthru? A full on experience into the 'realms' of dmt.


:blazed:





as a rule we always eyeball our doses.  my break through/ego death experience came when i was (with the aid of a friend holding the pipe and lighter for me) able to take 4 very deep pulls. 


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14077650 - 03/06/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What exactly are you smoking? a Changa mix? or are you putting crystal thats sandwiched inbetween some other sort of material?


The world bowl leads me to believe your smoking it from a bong type thing with plant material, and its important to keep in mind that you dont want to overflame or 'incinerate' the product with excessive heat.


If its a changa mix, only enough flame just to get the cherry burning, and then remove the flame, even just light a tiny part of the cone and let the cherry burn its way through the rest of the cone without adding extra heat.


If its crystal sandwiched inbetween some material, then even less flame is needed, and straight flames shouldnt be touching the crystal in any part at all.



It's not like smoking marijuanna in a bong where you just torch and pull it till it is clear, with dmt you have to smoke it slowly and carefully without adding too much flame to it.


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    #14079923 - 03/07/11 07:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, there are some people who will just never get it, i call these people ediots, People that pass it around like its a bowl of weed and then start pointing fingers as to why there not blasting, I know you guys know these people all too well.

you have on average a total of 30 seconds to blast off successfully.
also i have heard that smelling it or inhaling a slight amount of smoke before your initial 3 hits can fuck up your blast.

3 hits, one after another, Held in a lot..


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    #14080017 - 03/07/11 08:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you guys are totally over-analyzing the dmt experience

all you need to do is to get the DMT from point A (the pipe) to point B (your lungs)

other than that, set & setting is the only other determining factor for what kind of trip you're going to have

oh and expectation. that's another big one


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Envix]
    #14080139 - 03/07/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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you guys are totally over-analyzing the dmt experience

all you need to do is to get the DMT from point A (the pipe) to point B (your lungs)

other than that, set & setting is the only other determining factor for what kind of trip you're going to have

oh and expectation. that's another big one




This is bullshit. The quality of the DMT and the energy put into it is also greatly going to affect the trip. Recrystallized crystalline DMT is going to provide a far different trip than some crappy STB yellow powder some asshole made to pay their bills.


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    #14080361 - 03/07/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

im just speaking from personal experience


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    #14081010 - 03/07/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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yeah, there are some people who will just never get it, i call these people ediots, People that pass it around like its a bowl of weed and then start pointing fingers as to why there not blasting, I know you guys know these people all too well.

you have on average a total of 30 seconds to blast off successfully.
also i have heard that smelling it or inhaling a slight amount of smoke before your initial 3 hits can fuck up your blast.

3 hits, one after another, Held in a lot..



:awehigh: pretty much my views on deeemzttters.

Idiots passing around salvia like its a bowl  :curbyourenthusiasm: 


I'm gonna go ham on it soon. :bigyesnod:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14081425 - 03/07/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wtf is this?

Came out of naphtha  after freezing. It was reallyyellow when I took it out of the soup. Salvageable?



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    #14083533 - 03/07/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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you guys are totally over-analyzing the dmt experience

all you need to do is to get the DMT from point A (the pipe) to point B (your lungs)

other than that, set & setting is the only other determining factor for what kind of trip you're going to have

oh and expectation. that's another big one




This is bullshit. The quality of the DMT and the energy put into it is also greatly going to affect the trip. Recrystallized crystalline DMT is going to provide a far different trip than some crappy STB yellow powder some asshole made to pay their bills.




Nah chopstick you don't know what your on about. Envix does.

some people even say the yellow spice is stronger then pure white because it has a bit of the 5-meo mixed into it which gives the trip more depth and power.

Alot of people say the pure white spice tends to be alot more tame and mild actually.


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    #14083553 - 03/07/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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some people even say the yellow spice is stronger then pure white because it has a bit of the 5-meo mixed into it which gives the trip more depth and power.




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    #14083563 - 03/07/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It appears i don't know what im on about either then. LOL.

I could have sworn there was some sort of other alkaloid called yimyam or jungle spice in mhrb which was 5-meo. Maybe im just a spaz though.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14083572 - 03/07/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You're probably thinking of Yuremamine.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14086831 - 03/08/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Wtf is this?

Came out of naphtha  after freezing. It was reallyyellow when I took it out of the soup. Salvageable?





I get that too sometimes. It's just oils and fats from the roots. It's not bad, it just makes it moist and hard to store. I know they aren't supposed to have much fats, but sometimes they just do. The more you heat and agitate it, the more extra stuff you get.

Do a couple of freez precips to help with this. Or just smoke the stuff. As long as it's been out a long time and doesn't smell like the solvent.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Moo456]
    #14101137 - 03/10/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Its pretty cheap. Set aside $125 n u can get EVERYTHING u need. Then just have to re buy bark. Use powder stuff. Stb tek with extra water. Baking soda clean it n freeze at least 3 days in negative temps. If possible. But ne freezer shall do.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: highc]
    #14101366 - 03/10/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i got all the stufff i needed for like $40


with that i made like 5g of deemzters


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    #14101583 - 03/10/11 11:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I find that very hard to believe. The plants alone are going to cost close to $40 for a decent amount.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Moo456]
    #14102510 - 03/11/11 05:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i got like 500g of powdered mhrb for about 20$

n i was able to get 5g dmt from that

naptha + lye + pt jar + quart jar + turkey baster is about 20$


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14103263 - 03/11/11 10:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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you guys are totally over-analyzing the dmt experience

all you need to do is to get the DMT from point A (the pipe) to point B (your lungs)

other than that, set & setting is the only other determining factor for what kind of trip you're going to have

oh and expectation. that's another big one




This is bullshit. The quality of the DMT and the energy put into it is also greatly going to affect the trip. Recrystallized crystalline DMT is going to provide a far different trip than some crappy STB yellow powder some asshole made to pay their bills.




Nah chopstick you don't know what your on about. Envix does.

some people even say the yellow spice is stronger then pure white because it has a bit of the 5-meo mixed into it which gives the trip more depth and power.

Alot of people say the pure white spice tends to be alot more tame and mild actually.





Yeah, full alkaloid spice/jungle is a lot different than just white DMT. It contains yuramamine, mentioned earlier, probably along with various other mystery alkaloids...

But I was talking about the quality of just white DMT. I've tried a bunch of different ppl's white DMT (not jungle) and how the spice is made is definitely going to impact the trip. White re-crystallized shards is the only way to go imo...unless you're talking about jungle spice, in which case, full alkaloid d-limo xtracted rocks are fucking incredible.

I had a dream once in which the quality of the DMT I had was compared...the STB yellow powder was like giving someone a mcdonalds cheeseburger, in terms of the DMT experience, but the white moonrocks I had were like your GF cooking you up an amazing meal and then blowing your cock afterwards. Huge difference.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: chopstick]
    #14103640 - 03/11/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

my white stuff was a lot smoother smoke and produced a much more pleasent effect



the yellow might be stronger but it is wayy more mind-fucky.. a lot less gentle than pure white


i prefer white cuz its more profound wheras yellow sorta just fucks u up alot


i got that white w/ stb btw


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    #14103728 - 03/11/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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my white stuff was a lot smoother smoke and produced a much more pleasent effect



the yellow might be stronger but it is wayy more mind-fucky.. a lot less gentle than pure white


i prefer white cuz its more profound wheras yellow sorta just fucks u up alot


i got that white w/ stb btw




That's nice looking white...I hope to make something similar sooner or later.


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    #14103746 - 03/11/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

also if u wanna make ur yellow stuff white just do a bestine recrystallization on it

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11726174


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Envix]
    #14108335 - 03/12/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

still amazes me that you got thatmuch whiteness with a stb, does adding more water really do the trick? does someone really need to waste there time with a crockpot and a bigger mess?
my experience with yellow is its scarier, but also dirtier and harsher, i like the clean shit,
the citrus xtract sounds nice, but storing and transport seemslike itd be a bitch, any rebuttals on that, foafs wantin to kno y he should or shouldnt do it the limo way


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Tydel]
    #14108472 - 03/12/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

stb w/ 1500ml of water instead of 600 produces white xtals the first couple pulls but then it starts to get a little yellow

u can just do a bestine recrystallization on the remaining yellow to take out all the junk n make them white


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Envix]
    #14113128 - 03/13/11 06:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thats pretty coool. but i think my buddy may stick to acid base though for some reason. but still def something to think about,

could some1  get a less painful a/b xtract going for abulk amount of bark, 20 or so jars doesnt sound too appealing, how far down do u guys think youcan boil down vinegar/water containing deemz from the marsofolds tek, foaf wants to do 12lbs to really make it worth his while


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    #14113168 - 03/13/11 07:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

that is a ridiculous ammount to be working with


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    #14116491 - 03/13/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Tydel]
    #14116502 - 03/13/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i think thats a stupid idea, and if you are considering doing that then i relaly wouldnt be talking about that on public boards like this.

i mean 12 poounds, is almost what 5kg, that will yield something ridiculous like 50grams of dmt, when a 50mg dose is 1 earth shattering dose. so that is something like what, 20 doses per gram, 20x50, 1000 doses of dmt....


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14116523 - 03/13/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i mean 12 poounds, is almost what 5kg, that will yield something ridiculous like 50grams of dmt, when a 50mg dose is 1 earth shattering dose. so that is something like what, 20 doses per gram, 20x50, 1000 doses of dmt....




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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14116530 - 03/13/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Fuck yes. It worked out perfectly! finally. lol. No idea how much that weighs.




Enjoy the pictars.

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fuck, i need to do this.... can someone link the tek or PM a good tek?

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    #14116546 - 03/13/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

foafs, goals, im just there for emotional support


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    #14116560 - 03/13/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14116566 - 03/13/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the only logical explanation i can think of is that your foaf wants 50g of dmt because hes going to sell it.


i mean i don't think you really understand how much 50grams of dmt is. I'd even go as far to say that 5 grams would be unsmokeable for you. extracting 50 grams at once is just a waste, you will have more dmt then you will know what to do with in your entire life time, and it will all go off well before you can use it all.


Plus your going to be doing an extraction a ridiculous scale, like mixing it in a drum or something retarded like that.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14116577 - 03/13/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

whats a good ratio for pharmahuasca? i have about 2g of white and 1g of pinkish yellow atm and no rue seeds.
what do?
(maybe even caapi instead?)

Edit: i also have to agree with envix, people put too much emphasis on the breakthrough, if you breakthrough then breakthrough, dont push your self to that point having to deal with the fear before hand. not to mention you can do the same thing with meditation especially emptiness meditation
let it happen and be humble


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14116625 - 03/13/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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the only logical explanation i can think of is that your foaf wants 50g of dmt because hes going to sell it.


i mean i don't think you really understand how much 50grams of dmt is. I'd even go as far to say that 5 grams would be unsmokeable for you. extracting 50 grams at once is just a waste, you will have more dmt then you will know what to do with in your entire life time, and it will all go off well before you can use it all.


Plus your going to be doing an extraction a ridiculous scale, like mixing it in a drum or something retarded like that.




I could give away/trade/smoke 50g of DMT in one summer easy. As far as the extraction do an a/b extraction and simmer down your acidic solution from 12 gallons down to 5 gallons, add that to 6 hdpe plastic jugs, basify them to ph 13, do 5 or 6 non polar pulls, combine the pulls and evap half the solvent, freeze precipitate then filter and dry.


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    #14116671 - 03/13/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

he simply wanted to see what it would take to get it on a larger scale, as itd be safer, and cheaper at wholesale to do it just once and be set for a good while  of PERSONAL use,
i think a drum would be totally gangster, foaf would roll that bitch down a hill a few times, haha
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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Tydel] * 1
    #14116868 - 03/13/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I copped some naptha today, gonna cash a check tomorrow and go on the hunt for lye! wish me luck :laugh:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: astrolope]
    #14117169 - 03/13/11 11:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hey fractal, u think some 1 should defat when reducing that much? and how would you do it?


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Tydel]
    #14117184 - 03/13/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if ur using MHRB you dont really have to defat


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14117295 - 03/13/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've been vaping my deem lately... it's so grate :vaped:

Last night though, some of the DMT got stuck in the upper screen. I always change the bowl itself for DMT, but when I put in the weed bowl with the intent of getting stoned, the DMT remaining in the upper screen made me :crazyeyes: :lol:

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    #14117328 - 03/13/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm still surprised that more people aren't into changa...  It's just so easy to smoke, and the caapi leaf wants to accompany us on the DMT journey.


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14117333 - 03/13/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, i know its not necessarry but it gives peace of mind because when reducing some1 would be just stacking up what little fats there are into smaller volumes, seems to me it'd be easier for the naptha to grab that way.

some1s thinking of instead of doing a dry defat, to run the chosen solvent through the acidic solution b 4 basifying. which theyll  probably use xylene, then siphon off the xylene and heat the acidic solution in a pot to get rid of that small top layer of it.

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: scienceguy]
    #14117335 - 03/13/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Changa's fantastic. I love that it's so easy to smoke and you can smoke it anywhere.

The vape has been so much fun lately though. It really is the easiest and most frugal way to inhale DMT that I have ever dealt with. Plus, there's something undeniably awesome about tripping balls off some space-age piece of technology. :stoned:


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    #14117361 - 03/13/11 11:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Haha.  My vape of choice definitely doesn't strike me as space age at all.  The Key is about the least glamorous (yet somehow one of the most effective) vapes I've ever used.  It's basically two pipe fittings and a tube, and some screens.  It looks like some seriously rigged up shit, but it rocks.  As cool as my Vapor Brothers looks and works, it doesn't even compare to The Key for deemsters.

I like to vape changa too.  The problem for me with changa is that a little changa always becomes at least a little more.

Someone I know just got ten pounds of shredded, and is very interested in just how much magic he'll find inside...


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    #14117384 - 03/13/11 11:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14117425 - 03/14/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I know somebody getting ten pounds too... should be interesting. :crazy2:

I'm so grateful for DMT, it's such a unique and powerful experience. It's such purified, ascended psychedelia. People who haven't done it literally have no clue as to what they're missing out on.

I really want to try it orally... I've heard that it's no less intense that way, and my last few experiences have shown me that it's very hard to remember the details of the experience. On high doses the most salient details for me are emotional and personal, has to do with the feeling of being merged with the universe... but it's over so fast, and I never get a chance to really take in the mind-boggling visuals. I only ever remember brief snippets of the impossible geometric configurations of everything occurring simultaneously.


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    #14117434 - 03/14/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14117440 - 03/14/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the best vapes to use are the longer tubed ones, i think it helps with the harshness, head shops have badass ones , itd be cool if i could find one that would hold ice,
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    #14117454 - 03/14/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, hitting DMT from the three-foot whip is by far the smoothest way I've smoked DMT. It's really easy to take in fat lungfuls and hold them in and then HOLY SHIT :rocket:

I absolutely adore that feeling you get when the DMT is coming on but you're still hitting it. Everything suddenly goes neon, the carpet is crawling around before your eyes, the universe is buzzing...

It's such a singularly electrifying experience. In the span of a second, BAM it's there, fiddling with reality as far as it can go.

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    #14117666 - 03/14/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hell yeah, ima get one those swirly, long ass vapes asap, and then some brillo lol


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    #14117673 - 03/14/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

changaaaaa



i just added more dmt to it, the first blend seemed kinda weak

the weird part is now there's only like half left.. i wonder if the acetone broke it down or dissolved it or something


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    #14117683 - 03/14/11 01:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

might be a dumb question, but...

has anyone tried railing dmt?


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    #14117710 - 03/14/11 01:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've thought about it but apparently it's EXTREMELY painful. I don't even want to think about dealing with a DMT drip while I'm coming up :eek:

I kind of want to try rectal DMT. :crazy: Though I have heard that this method, also, tends to burn. :argh:


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: P-O]
    #14117735 - 03/14/11 01:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

envix - doubt the acetone broke it down or anything, maybe it just compressed or condensed it. Weigh it and see how much it weighs in total.


and positive outlook, dmt isn't orally active unless you take it with an maoi, im sure it would work if you did a railing ayahuasca mix. I think the people over at the nexus say they convert it to a freebase salt for aya/oral purposes because it doesnt burn as much. Apparently the freebase form causes a burning sensation.


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    #14117749 - 03/14/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

can anyone comment on my earlier reply above
basically wanna defat my acidic solution b 4 basifying,  but never done it that way b 4


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: P-O]
    #14117785 - 03/14/11 01:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i snorted some freebase few weeks ago, and blasted hard as fuck, the pain... excruciating... even though it was pretty clean, had to try it though, my nasal passages were fucked for days, and it burned for days...
wonder how much less painful fumarate is, if its practically pain free, converting it would be the shit, cause you cant really go wrong snorting as smoking it takes experience sometimes to perfect


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Tydel]
    #14117801 - 03/14/11 01:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ahh, maybe im wrong then, maybe you can snort it and get effects from it.


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    #14117850 - 03/14/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah you can , when i did it it lasted for like 30 minutes! and kicked in nearly immediately  very intense and almost puked. but i dont advise it,
although i knew it was ill advised b 4 i did it and that didn't  stop me, many ppl will have to find out for themselves, its because its not getting a chance to break down in your system and if im right going straight to your brain,


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Tydel]
    #14117862 - 03/14/11 01:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

envix, whats your changa recipe?


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    #14117897 - 03/14/11 02:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i did a x16 enhancement of caapi and then added 1:3 ratio DMT

it was really intense when i tried some right after making it but when i tried it again a couple days later it seemed really weak for some reason,

so i just added another half gram dmt and am gonna try it again in a few days and see how it is


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Envix]
    #14117921 - 03/14/11 02:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

https://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=3539
this is a good site for some mixes.
i wanna make a blend of the Ayahuasca Android + Calea Zacatechichi + Pau D'Arco + Blue Lotus + Heimia Salicifolia

maybe even add one of those nervous system sedatives in there just in case


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Re: deemzzters. [Re: Envix]
    #14117924 - 03/14/11 02:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

maybe the deem oxidised, or maybe it was unevenly mixed , so that the part you tried first was uber, but the part you tried second was not as potent.


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    #14119982 - 03/14/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

And the bark is on its way!

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Re: deemzzters. [Re: astrolope]
    #14120213 - 03/14/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Pau d'arco adds some really nice flavor.

mullien gives the smoke a "pillowy" texture, it's easy on the lungs.

20-30 mg. of Caapi vine extract on top of the bowl smoothes out the ride and extends it.Really easy "breakthrough"

This is what I find so far, I am also interested in the android.

Make sure the dmt is completely dissolved before infusing leaf and it should evenly distribute into the leaf..


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