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OfflineOmegaRed721
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Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft?
    #14026294 - 02/25/11 04:19 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

Daily I take 100mg Zoloft, 40mg Lexapro, 100mg Strattera,  and 36 mg Concerta for anxiety/depression and OCD.

To trip or not to trip?

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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: OmegaRed721]
    #14026346 - 02/25/11 04:30 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

You won't be able to even if you wanted to.  SSRI's completely diminish the effects of psychedelics.  I hear you have to discontinue Zoloft for a good 2-4 weeks to get any effects too.

The MPH I think you'll be fine with but the SSRI's are a no-go.  IMO unless you really desperately need them, you shouldn't be on any SSRI's anyways.

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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #14026355 - 02/25/11 04:33 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

That's a bummer, but at least I still got dank bud.

I've only been on Zoloft for about 2 weeks now, so I'm not sure if it has "built" enough since I've heard it builds over time. Also, would it be feasible to pop a benzo like Ativan in case a trip goes bad?

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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: OmegaRed721]
    #14026416 - 02/25/11 04:43 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

Well, as I found out a couple weeks ago, it is possible for someone taking SSRIs to get high (in this case, roll on ecstasy).

But I have to ask-- why are you on two different SSRIs? Does one not inhibit enough?
Seriously, I'd confront my doctor and have him take you off one of those.
Lexapro or Zoloft... that's fine. But both???

Anyhow, disclaimer: I'm not a doctor and take no responsibility for what happens to you.
This did work quite successfully for my girlfriend though.

If you skip a dose of your SSRI the night before you'd like to trip...
And potentiate the substance ~2 hrs beforehand (the day of the trip) with piracetam+choline...
You will still need a slightly larger dose than an average person (I'd estimate 1.5-2x)...
But you will trip.

The night you are tripping-- even in the midst of the trip-- be sure to resume your SSRIs though.
The withdrawal symptoms from those things is no joke.

Good luck. :aum:

As for popping a benzo to end a trip, you can do this.
Some people on here find it's a good practice to have them on hand.


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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14026554 - 02/25/11 05:10 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

You're just gonna have to take more shroom than normal, like 2x as much.

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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14026670 - 02/25/11 05:34 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
Well, as I found out a couple weeks ago, it is possible for someone taking SSRIs to get high (in this case, roll on ecstasy).

But I have to ask-- why are you on two different SSRIs? Does one not inhibit enough?
Seriously, I'd confront my doctor and have him take you off one of those.
Lexapro or Zoloft... that's fine. But both???.




It's kind of extenuating circumstances. My dad passed away from brain cancer 6 months ago and I'm still working around the pain. That's pretty much the only reason I'm on 2 SSRI's.

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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: OmegaRed721]
    #14026691 - 02/25/11 05:36 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

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OmegaRed721 said:
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ifoundwaldo said:
Well, as I found out a couple weeks ago, it is possible for someone taking SSRIs to get high (in this case, roll on ecstasy).

But I have to ask-- why are you on two different SSRIs? Does one not inhibit enough?
Seriously, I'd confront my doctor and have him take you off one of those.
Lexapro or Zoloft... that's fine. But both???.




It's kind of extenuating circumstances. My dad passed away from brain cancer 6 months ago and I'm still working around the pain. That's pretty much the only reason I'm on 2 SSRI's.




Sorry to hear about your dad, dude. DEFINITELY not a remotely good time to trip.

Shrooms are not always happy go lucky fun times like weed probably is for you. :smile:

Anyway, my method outlined above should work for you whenever you are ready. Good luck. :thumbup:


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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14026732 - 02/25/11 05:44 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

I think that you'll have to take a shitload of mushrooms for what will seem a low-dose trip, and even then you'll probably find it kind of dulled and not quite like the real experience. It's a matter of your own chemistry whether SSRIs make you happy or not, but it's quite likely they'll just make the lows not so low and the highs not so high.


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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: circastes]
    #14026774 - 02/25/11 05:51 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

I used to be on 30mg of Lexapro, and I would trip just fine. Everything worked well. I don't know about Zoloft, though.

It is a very good idea to take a benzo, if you start to have a bad trip. It will almost always make the tripper feel significantly better.


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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: circastes]
    #14026796 - 02/25/11 05:56 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

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circastes said:
I think that you'll have to take a shitload of mushrooms for what will seem a low-dose trip, and even then you'll probably find it kind of dulled and not quite like the real experience. It's a matter of your own chemistry whether SSRIs make you happy or not, but it's quite likely they'll just make the lows not so low and the highs not so high.




Sounds like a numbing effect...

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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: Pyroshroom]
    #14026817 - 02/25/11 06:01 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

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Pyroshroom said:
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circastes said:
I think that you'll have to take a shitload of mushrooms for what will seem a low-dose trip, and even then you'll probably find it kind of dulled and not quite like the real experience. It's a matter of your own chemistry whether SSRIs make you happy or not, but it's quite likely they'll just make the lows not so low and the highs not so high.




Sounds like a numbing effect...




That's SSRIs in a nutshell. :smile:

Can't get happy. Can't get sad. Walk around like a zombie.


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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14026823 - 02/25/11 06:02 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

hi hun im sorry to hear about you dad, i know your pain my mom died of cancer in Oct last year and it hurts every day, im also on Celexa which is a ssri. When i want to do any psychedelic i cut my dose in half for a week then skip it completely the day before i trip. i still have a fairly high tolerance but it works.
now you need to know if you choose to trip it can bring ALOT of the pain to the surface and its not fun but it helped me face the fact that no matter how I feel at least she is not in pain anymore and in a way that alone helps, on the good side it gave me a chance to deal with stuff and quit bottling it up and afterward I've felt more at peace. my best advice is first DO NOT do it alone please have someone you love and that loves you near to have your back when raw emotions start coming out. so all and all my personal experience was healing and i truly hope yours is too.  with light and love, me


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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: Atlantic Wind]
    #14026855 - 02/25/11 06:09 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

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das8929 said:
You're just gonna have to take more shroom than normal, like 2x as much.





:whathesaid:

They will work and it's not dangerous at all. Benzos are fine to take with the combo, don't take them before though, then you will really battle to experience anything.

With SSRI's just work your dosage up as you need it. I'm not saying eat 7g straight off, depends on your natural tolerance too.

*** I would advise that tripping and mental health issues aren't a cool combo. This is from personal experience, haven't touched psychs in over a year. Been on and off SSRI's, tricyclics/tetracyclics etc for 10+ years.

Don't rush into a trip if your mind is not up to it, sometimes things happen you can't ever reverse/unsee. :psychsplit:


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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #14026910 - 02/25/11 06:22 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

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egodeathflux said:
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das8929 said:
You're just gonna have to take more shroom than normal, like 2x as much.



:whathesaid:

They will work and it's not dangerous at all.




I have found that even doubling the dose won't work for a lot of people.
This has been the experience of others on the board is well.
Just taking more is a very unscientific approach to the problem.

You have to realize that SSRIs and the psychedelics are binding to the same receptor sites with the SSRIs having a higher affinity.

Taking more is akin to rolling the dice and hoping some psilocin gets through.


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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14026931 - 02/25/11 06:30 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

You wont be able to trip, 1 zoloft will kill a trip.

Get off the pharmaceutical poison if you want to trip.

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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14026964 - 02/25/11 06:39 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
Quote:

egodeathflux said:
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das8929 said:
You're just gonna have to take more shroom than normal, like 2x as much.



:whathesaid:

They will work and it's not dangerous at all.




I have found that even doubling the dose won't work for a lot of people.
This has been the experience of others on the board is well.
Just taking more is a very unscientific approach to the problem.

You have to realize that SSRIs and the psychedelics are binding to the same receptor sites with the SSRIs having a higher affinity.

Taking more is akin to rolling the dice and hoping some psilocin gets through.





As I said I speak from years of experience.

I don't really see it as rolling the dice if the negative outcome is that the psilocybin is processed. You may find you waste some shrooms, you'll have to try OP. I've tripped plenty of times on Citalopram, just took more and smoked a little extra.

As I said I don't think I'm clever for doing shrooms on SSRI's or any other meds, just pointing out it's not a hopeless endeavour.


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Re: Shrooms on Lexapro and Zoloft? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #14026998 - 02/25/11 06:47 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

I'm also speaking from experience and just trying to say that everyone's brain is different.

And yes, that would be a waste of shrooms (and money) if he goes out, buys a quarter, eats them, and nothing happens...


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