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The_Outsider
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Early Trich?
#14025962 - 02/25/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have 4 monobuckets going and the first 3 seem to have normal looking growth while this 4th bucket has strange clumping white stuff on the top.
Can I get a confirmation this is trich?

The last bucket (the one shown in the pic)is much whiter on the top of the coir than the rest of the buckets. Ont eh other buckets I see strong rhizo growth. This one just looks icky.
Ill toss it as soon as i can get a confirmation. Doesnt appear to have sporeulated yet.
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pepper
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Looks like marshmallow bumps. Take a picture of the whole tub please. Does it smell like dirt?
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pepper
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Re: Early Trich? [Re: pepper]
#14027357 - 02/25/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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 Thanks Doc_T.
Edited by pepper (02/25/11 08:16 PM)
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The_Outsider
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Re: Early Trich? [Re: pepper]
#14027577 - 02/25/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea Ima toss it. looks like the trich in the 2nd pic.
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The_Outsider
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Heres a few more pics I took before I tossed it. Just so we can confirm contamination.
Sorry about the quality.



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hamloaf
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That's definitely trichoderma in it's mycelial phase.
Good catch. A few more days and you'da had you a sea of green mold.
The only thing that substrate's good for is fertilizing an out door garden.
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Re: Early Trich? [Re: hamloaf]
#14029092 - 02/26/11 06:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: That's definitely trichoderma in it's mycelial phase.
Good catch. A few more days and you'da had you a sea of green mold.
The only thing that substrate's good for is fertilizing an out door garden.
Much thanks, yea Im super glad I spotted it and could tell that it wasnt mush myc and was able to pull it before I had a mess. Is 1 in 4 a bad contam rate for litle mono buckets spawned with damions coir tek?
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A 25% failure rate is horrible. Use proper sterile procedure when making your cakes or spawn, and properly pasteurize substrates at 140F for 60 to 90 minutes. Bulk substrates should not be exposed to water over 170F, as they're then more susceptible to contamination later. RR
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The_Outsider
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so the boiling water in a bucket (damions tek) isnt a very good way to go?
I guess ill use your pasterization tek you use in the video. ive read that coir is fairly trich esistant but the rich seemed to have no problem dominating that bucket. The other 3 all look good and were prepared side by side at he same time.
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Quote:
sawbagz said: so the boiling water in a bucket (damions tek) isnt a very good way to go?
I guess ill use your pasterization tek you use in the video. ive read that coir is fairly trich esistant but the rich seemed to have no problem dominating that bucket. The other 3 all look good and were prepared side by side at he same time.
Yes coir is pretty damn contam resistant. That is why people often get away with the bucket tek. Sometimes you can even get away with not even pasteurizing coir AT ALL, but obviously that is stupid and don't do it....Definately use the way that RR explains in the video, that way you are sure that the coir gets 140-160F for 90 minutes......
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The_Outsider
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ok ty. If i am going to be doing a proper pasturization maybe i should add more to my bulk recipe than just coir/verm/gypsum.
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Found another bucket with trich myc growing on it.. Def messed up my pasteurization or didnt clean my buckets well enough I guess.
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