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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: imachavel]
#14027197 - 02/25/11 07:33 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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imachavel said: yes, please
why go to war now? people have been saying forever that iran is a country with nuclear capacity
honestly all these countries with nuclear capacity are retards worst than hitler, if one person fires a nuke and destroys a city area with 500,000 people or more, it threatens a global thermonuclear war. there'd be more people dead than world war 2. shiit. and the fallout could blanket the planet and kill off more people, especially if it falls deep into the soil, making it so plants can't grow.
Yeah nukes scare the crap out of me.
There not much to be done on that front.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: uber_aj]
#14027206 - 02/25/11 07:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: I don't think it's gonna happen. Iranians chanting "Death to America" and Americans saying, "Lets invade Iran" are the same thing anyway.
Neither country can afford that war and I don't think either one really wants it to happen in the first place, aside from the war loving extremists on both sides, who both use off-the-wall individuals as examples of the general populous.
Big fucking whoop if they build a nuke. It's a penis contest, North Korea is the same situation.
i don't recall anyone but the extremists wanting a war with iraq and afghanista(maybe a little more)
i disagree, i think we might have a war on our hands.
i also deem iran the worst of 2 fucked up unacceptable phenomena - USA military expansion and islamic based nationalism.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Shins]
#14027235 - 02/25/11 07:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shins said: Nay. The Iranian leader is right about what he says about Israel and The U.S.A.
is he right to kill and maim others who protest against his regime? is he right to call for the arrest of opposition leaders? Even if he is right, i disagree, he is not right. israel doesn't go around saying the iranian regime should be wiped off the history of manking( i know he doesn't mean with brute force, he means politically.) israel doesn't think that homosexuality is unnatural and makes it against the law. israel doesn't say that porno is evil and outlaws it, killing people who propogate such a pleasureable nessecity! i think i agree with you, but there is two sides to this coin, buddy, not all that iran does is modern, its downright repulsive.
Instead of bombing him for speaking the truth in spite of Israels hard core deception, we should instead face it and make appropriate measures.
Israel had the nukes, Israel makes the threats, Israel refuses inspections and the NPT.
If the USA would re-think it's unyielding support for Israel, the eastern world would look at it in a better light.
So much of the geo-political and financial concerns in the western world are directly related to it's support of Israel.
Israel is causing trouble for the U.S.A., not the guy truthfully pointing it out. Instead of walking out in Iran in every UN conference, The USA should stop licking Israeli boots and heed ahnmedinejad's words.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Grav]
#14027240 - 02/25/11 07:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grav said: of course not. it's insane that this is even being debated.
You wonder why people cant take you seriously?
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Shins]
#14027264 - 02/25/11 07:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shins said: It's obvious that Iran is vilified in the media for no other reason than; it opposes Israel/US military colonialism, and speaks out about it in intellectual forums.
I would love to see Ahmadinejad utterly ruin Obama in a debate, But in typical pro-Israeli fashion the USA completely flees rational debate and instead lays on the media and political coercion and trickery.
Yeah he would kill him in a debate.

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Ahmajenidude says "in iran, we don't have homosexuals."
Are you muslim?
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14027392 - 02/25/11 08:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said:
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Shins said: It's obvious that Iran is vilified in the media for no other reason than; it opposes Israel/US military colonialism, and speaks out about it in intellectual forums.
I would love to see Ahmadinejad utterly ruin Obama in a debate, But in typical pro-Israeli fashion the USA completely flees rational debate and instead lays on the media and political coercion and trickery.
Yeah he would kill him in a debate.

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Ahmajenidude says "in iran, we don't have homosexuals."
Are you muslim?
nope, are you homosexual?
Rhetorical, but other than a war on homophobia, are there any other better reasons to start bombing the Iranian people?
Ahmedinejad said that the anti-homosexual thing is there because the majority of the population are against homosexuality, thus the attitude is democratic.
There are a lot of other places in the world homosexuals can do their thang, we don't have to go to war with a country because they are anti-homo or anti-zionist. I would be much more interested in discussing and debating why they think that way.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Shins]
#14027749 - 02/25/11 09:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shins said:
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AlphaFalfa said:
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Shins said: It's obvious that Iran is vilified in the media for no other reason than; it opposes Israel/US military colonialism, and speaks out about it in intellectual forums.
I would love to see Ahmadinejad utterly ruin Obama in a debate, But in typical pro-Israeli fashion the USA completely flees rational debate and instead lays on the media and political coercion and trickery.
Yeah he would kill him in a debate.

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Ahmajenidude says "in iran, we don't have homosexuals."
Are you muslim?
nope, are you homosexual?
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Rhetorical, but other than a war on homophobia, are there any other better reasons to start bombing the Iranian people?
They don't allow the international atomic Energy Agency to inspect their facilities. Their leader believes in the coming of the mahdi or 12 imam by means of war. They have ties to hezbollah and potentially other terrorists groups. They are clearly one of the worst dictatorships in the world. They might get their hands on a nuclear weapon, that could be passed onto a teorrist group.
They are the only islamic fundamentalist country with the nearing potential to obtain nuclear technology.
The things that ahmajenidad says are very threatening.
i cant see how you can trust them so much when they clearly have such backwards views.????
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Ahmedinejad said that the anti-homosexual thing is there because the majority of the population are against homosexuality, thus the attitude is democratic.
Thats funny. i could sweat i just saw him say to columbia university students posing the question that homosexuality does not exist in iran.
Dude, get over it he isn't acting democratic. Thats a fucking joke!!!
Look at what the regime does to its protestors.
Have you read its constitution?
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There are a lot of other places in the world homosexuals can do their thang, we don't have to go to war with a country because they are anti-homo or anti-zionist. I would be much more interested in discussing and debating why they think that way.
Who said we should go to war with them because of this?
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14027932 - 02/25/11 10:08 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said: You wonder why people cant take you seriously?
no, i wonder why people like yourself continue to jump at the propaganda coming out of the media, and attempt to rationalize another criminal preemptive invasion into a sovereign middle-eastern country. you're delusional and deceived to even be considering this as a good idea.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Grav]
#14027973 - 02/25/11 10:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why not? It's not like our military isn't overstretched, our treasury completely bankrupt, and our infrastructure rotting!
Shit yeah, have another war.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: TGRR]
#14028038 - 02/25/11 10:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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TGRR said: Why not? It's not like our military isn't overstretched, our treasury completely bankrupt, and our infrastructure rotting!
Shit yeah, have another war.
But it's good for the economy! [/sarcasm]
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: uber_aj]
#14028189 - 02/25/11 11:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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i didn't say we should be having another war.
i said it seems like the only possibility if we get into a situation where iran is likely to have the ability to attain a nuclear weapon.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14028194 - 02/25/11 11:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuck it, let'em nuke the israelis its all worthless sand anyway.
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I would totally support the nonlethal irradiating of the Dome of the Rock and the Wailing Wall to put an end to the everlasting tug-of-war, but they'd just call it a sign of the end times and use that to justify war again.
Fucking self-fulfilling prophecies.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: uber_aj]
#14028336 - 02/25/11 11:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well your sentiment is beginning to make your posts more relevant.
i disagree, i would rather have the israel in the world, rather than iran.
i know i know, israel has had their fair share of violence.
i honestly would rather than whole region go under or for the new governments to arise.
i don't have any faith that sunnis and shiites will ever live in peace and considering that their the major controllers of the oil, their wars will affect us all negatively as the commodity becomes more and more scarce.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14030017 - 02/26/11 11:45 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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i don't recall anyone but the extremists wanting a war with iraq and afghanista(maybe a little more)
Maybe you should examine the voting records since they were both overwhelmingly approved with support from both sides of the aisle. Do you know what the word "extremist" means?
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14030058 - 02/26/11 11:56 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Maybe you should examine the voting records since they were both overwhelmingly approved with support from both sides of the aisle. Do you know what the word "extremist" means?
Zappa is right. Many people were mislead that the war would be good for the economy and that we were in danger of more terrorist attacks involving nukes. The extremists were the ones who sold us on these fanciful notions in our moment of heightened nationalism and fear post 9/11. The extremists are also the ones who still believe in the war.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: uber_aj]
#14030094 - 02/26/11 12:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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The irony of someone who has this quote in their sig -
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan
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Many people were mislead (sic) that the war would be good for the economy...
- is staggering. Please provide even a single quote from anyone - anyone - in the Bush administration who claimed chasing 'splodeydopes in Afghanistan and Iraq would be good for the economy.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: uber_aj]
#14030100 - 02/26/11 12:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Maybe you should examine the voting records since they were both overwhelmingly approved with support from both sides of the aisle. Do you know what the word "extremist" means?
Zappa is right. Many people were mislead that the war would be good for the economy and that we were in danger of more terrorist attacks involving nukes. The extremists were the ones who sold us on these fanciful notions in our moment of heightened nationalism and fear post 9/11. The extremists are also the ones who still believe in the war.
1. I didn't hear any economic argument 2. There have been numerous terror attempts 3. If you aint worried about rogue state supplying nukes you are an ostrich 4. Misleading the People is of no consequence, it wasn't their votes that approved the wars. The Intelligence Committees voted "aye". The People were never asked.
You don't know what "extremist" means either.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14030110 - 02/26/11 12:06 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said:
i don't recall anyone but the extremists wanting a war with iraq and afghanista(maybe a little more)
Maybe you should examine the voting records since they were both overwhelmingly approved with support from both sides of the aisle. Do you know what the word "extremist" means?
Just because the majority of Germans were aligned with Hitler doesn't mean they weren't being lied to and pushed into war by a select few extremists.
What I am referring to as extremist is someone who would go to war, regardless of other potential options available to stop the wars.
There were extremists pushing for war, bush's cabinet acted on what they probably knew was bad info. Thats an extremist. They also bombed baghdad killing thousands of civilians! If they really wanted to do it properly, they wouldn't bomb a major civilian city. Its not proven, but bush's cabinet seemed way to hasty in their decision, with vested interests in that war, I can see why.
That extremism to me.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14030133 - 02/26/11 12:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm very happy that you have your own personal dictionary. You must feel special. I'm going to repeat that the supposed People who were lied to were not asked. The members of the Intelligence Committees in both Houses of Congress, the people with the inside skinny, voted overwhelmingly for both actions. No lying, no extremism. Go invent a religion.
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