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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: TheThinker]
    #14059307 - 03/03/11 10:59 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

How can you say they had no choice? Thats ridiculous.  Even if someone puts a gun to your head you have a choice.  About the only thing you don't have choice about is being born.


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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Icelander]
    #14059341 - 03/03/11 11:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
How can you say they had no choice? Thats ridiculous.  Even if someone puts a gun to your head you have a choice.  About the only thing you don't have choice about is being born.




I posit that many, if not most, would have and did conclude that the results of exercising their choice were far worse than doing what they had to do.

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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: TheThinker]
    #14059574 - 03/03/11 11:53 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

That's how fear works. Some of the bravest men I ever met did so by not following others expectations but instead followed their own personal set of ethics. Some of course were just scared of dying and that's valid too.


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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14059827 - 03/03/11 12:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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And just an FYI, I am being discharged, my contract is due to expire and I won't be renewing it.




Good.  Get the fuck out.  You seem to believe that because you are Private Manning you have a special status to determine policy.  You do not.  Never have, never will.  Nobody elected you, nobody asked you, nobody gives a shit what you think.  If you want to make policy then run for election.  Until then your vote is no more than anyone else's.




See, opinions are all equal. The informed and the raving lunatic both are given equal weight here. Thank for taking time to explain that to me.

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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Canis latrans]
    #14059876 - 03/03/11 12:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Please don't be so hard on yourself.:lol:

And maybe lighten up a bit.  Life is temporary.:satansmoking:


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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Icelander]
    #14059903 - 03/03/11 12:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Please don't be so hard on yourself.:lol:

And maybe lighten up a bit.  Life is temporary.:satansmoking:




Classic stoner response.

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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Canis latrans]
    #14059948 - 03/03/11 01:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't smoked in years but if doing so helps me to not be as angry and bitter as you then I'm hittin the bong tonight. :lol:

I laugh in your general direction.:ass:


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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Canis latrans]
    #14059977 - 03/03/11 01:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Please don't be so hard on yourself.:lol:

And maybe lighten up a bit.  Life is temporary.:satansmoking:




Classic stoner response.





Hey easy on the stoner remarks damn it.


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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Canis latrans]
    #14059989 - 03/03/11 01:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Canis latrans said:
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Icelander said:
Please don't be so hard on yourself.:lol:

And maybe lighten up a bit.  Life is temporary.:satansmoking:




Classic stoner response.






classic stoner response? wtf :facepalm: I'll play along with you're childish games, and follow up with saying your's is a arrogant and sad response to his classic stoner response. Life is indeed temporary, maybe if more people realized this simple fact of life things wouldnt seem so hectic and hard to understand.


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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: snoot]
    #14064237 - 03/04/11 12:56 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I say we nuke em back to the stone ages!  Oh wait, they're already there!  Iran is the archenemy of AMERICA!  It's time to WAKE UP and see that THEY hate US!

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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Screaming Eagle]
    #14064254 - 03/04/11 01:02 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

There is no US and THEM. But Them, They do not think the same...

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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Zenarchist23]
    #14064259 - 03/04/11 01:04 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I couldn't agree more.  And all they think about is how to destroy US!  That makes them OUR ENEMY.

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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Screaming Eagle]
    #14064301 - 03/04/11 01:19 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Sure, right after a small pathetically weak atomic bomb explodes in the abandoned parts of Detroit that is blamed on them... Would be a convenient excuse to ignore our debts too...


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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Screaming Eagle]
    #14064317 - 03/04/11 01:25 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I say we nuke em back to the stone ages!  Oh wait, they're already there!  Iran is the archenemy of AMERICA!  It's time to WAKE UP and see that THEY hate US!




.... :boobs:

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Have you guys heard of the STUXNET? The virus that was allegedly created by suspected US allies, which allegedly maliciously altered the frequency of certain centrifuges in Iranian nuclear facilities,. I only bring this up, cause I believe there are many new ideas we can exploit and create to deal with such situations like Iran that doesnt necessarily result in a full blown war.




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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Screaming Eagle]
    #14064831 - 03/04/11 06:29 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

They pose little threat to us imo. We have always been much more of a threat to them. I've never lost a nights sleep worrying about them invading.

Plus we need to pick on someone our own size. Russia and China have been traditional enemies since Communism. How come we never invade them? Let's go boys:thumbup:


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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Icelander]
    #14065151 - 03/04/11 08:49 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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They pose little threat to us imo. We have always been much more of a threat to them. I've never lost a nights sleep worrying about them invading.

Plus we need to pick on someone our own size. Russia and China have been traditional enemies since Communism. How come we never invade them? Let's go boys:thumbup:




Beijing insists that its military modernisation programme is entirely peaceful but the latest hike in defence spending to boost the 2.3m-strong People's Liberation Army
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12631357

I think that will cover China. :cool:

After the break-up of the former USSR Russia isn't really all that much of a threat any longer.

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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: TheThinker]
    #14065165 - 03/04/11 08:51 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'll bet we'd still have a hard time invading Russia.:lol:


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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Icelander]
    #14065200 - 03/04/11 08:59 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I'll bet we'd still have a hard time invading Russia.:lol:




Damn straight we would. Ask Germany about that one.

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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: TheThinker]
    #14065232 - 03/04/11 09:05 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

What I don't like is people thinking because we can invade some under equipped country that we are a bad ass Military.  I want us to invade China right now to see who gets the title. Go America!:thumbup: (not saying that's where I'm placing my bet however):wink:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Icelander]
    #14065250 - 03/04/11 09:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
What I don't like is people thinking because we can invade some under equipped country that we are a bad ass Military.  I want us to invade China right now to see who gets the title. Go America!:thumbup: (not saying that's where I'm placing my bet however);)





I agree with you. It's the old David and Goliath story, except with the very real ending of David getting the shit stomped out of him.

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