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Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY?
#14025289 - 02/25/11 12:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Iran's leaders and a large percentage of Iranians seem opposed to the dealings of Americans and Israelis, around the globe, particularly when they inflict changes to the Muslim countries.
Chants saying death to america, threats to Israels sovereignty, reports that may or may not implicate IRAN in aiding terrorism and a constitution wrought with anit-soveriegn, anti-democratic rule of the citizenry and a government that kills on behalf of protests, calling for the detention of opposition leaders - can these things describe IRAN?
I think most do, particularly the constitutional/protest violence/death to america and anti-israel chants/speeches.
In the last three years Israel has threatened that it will perform a military strike against their nuclear facilities.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14025358 - 02/25/11 12:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you can please post the reasoning behind your vote. Please do so, I want to know as much as i can about this subject.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14025389 - 02/25/11 12:59 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes, please
why go to war now? people have been saying forever that iran is a country with nuclear capacity
honestly all these countries with nuclear capacity are retards worst than hitler, if one person fires a nuke and destroys a city area with 500,000 people or more, it threatens a global thermonuclear war. there'd be more people dead than world war 2. shiit. and the fallout could blanket the planet and kill off more people, especially if it falls deep into the soil, making it so plants can't grow.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: imachavel]
#14025405 - 02/25/11 01:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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i voted no.
why? just click this link please. http://costofwar.com/en/
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Taco Chef] 1
#14025739 - 02/25/11 02:20 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14025904 - 02/25/11 02:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think it's gonna happen. Iranians chanting "Death to America" and Americans saying, "Lets invade Iran" are the same thing anyway.
Neither country can afford that war and I don't think either one really wants it to happen in the first place, aside from the war loving extremists on both sides, who both use off-the-wall individuals as examples of the general populous.
Big fucking whoop if they build a nuke. It's a penis contest, North Korea is the same situation.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: uber_aj]
#14026113 - 02/25/11 03:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nay. The Iranian leader is right about what he says about Israel and The U.S.A.
Instead of bombing him for speaking the truth in spite of Israels hard core deception, we should instead face it and make appropriate measures.
Israel had the nukes, Israel makes the threats, Israel refuses inspections and the NPT.
If the USA would re-think it's unyielding support for Israel, the eastern world would look at it in a better light.
So much of the geo-political and financial concerns in the western world are directly related to it's support of Israel.
Israel is causing trouble for the U.S.A., not the guy truthfully pointing it out. Instead of walking out in Iran in every UN conference, The USA should stop licking Israeli boots and heed ahnmedinejad's words.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: uber_aj]
#14026117 - 02/25/11 03:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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i voted no..but that doesnt mean i wont happen...in fact i can see a perfect storm brewing that could easily result not only in a war against iran.. but a large-scale military adventure to seize all the remaining oil in the mideast (and possibly elsewhere too)..including countries that are currently US allies...
the elements in this storm are familiar ..inflated gas prices.. unsated vengefulness from 9/11.. and the inevitable return to power of the bolton-cheney crowd..with a heavily repugnican koch whore congress to boot...
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: uber_aj]
#14026141 - 02/25/11 03:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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of course not. it's insane that this is even being debated.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Grav]
#14026189 - 02/25/11 04:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's obvious that Iran is vilified in the media for no other reason than; it opposes Israel/US military colonialism, and speaks out about it in intellectual forums.
I would love to see Ahmadinejad utterly ruin Obama in a debate, But in typical pro-Israeli fashion the USA completely flees rational debate and instead lays on the media and political coercion and trickery.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Grav]
#14026256 - 02/25/11 04:13 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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it sounds crazy right now.. but it wont sound crazy at all if the hard right captures the POTUS and both houses of congress...
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Shins]
#14026269 - 02/25/11 04:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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What trouble does Israel cause that isn't 100% simply due to the fact that it exists and scumbags all over the world hate Jews for breathing? Like you.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14026351 - 02/25/11 04:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Iran = paper tiger
Destroying Israel is a masturbation fantasy for some people (see above) that some people seem to have. No need for a U.S. led invasion, that would be foolish. If Israel is posed any threat with a bomb by Iran or its proxies all you have to do is give Israel the green light and Iran is finished. Most Arab countries leadership are wary of Iran and would not interfere with Israel.
Iran's Attoylahs will fall on their own in a few years. Their leadership is fucked, as of right now they are paranoid about their power and will only use attacking Israel to foster support for those persians and Arabs who are still bitter about a Jewish state.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14026366 - 02/25/11 04:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, for one, now some scumbags don't only hate jews, but the USA now too by proxy.
not good for USA
some "Scumbags" try to respect the civil rights of other breathing people in the middle east.
some Scumbags feel bad and resentful when their families are killed as a result of western and Israeli expansionism and supremicism.
In the end, it's just going to mean that more "scumbags" start getting desperate and extreme in reaction.
The problem will grow, it can't just be squashed out, it needs to be addressed and acknowledged at the core by all parties and solved through rational discussion and debate.
Edited by Shins (02/25/11 04:42 PM)
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Shins] 1
#14026433 - 02/25/11 04:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I should adjust my view of justice because scumbags don't like it? Not happening.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14026455 - 02/25/11 04:50 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should respect a higher justice than just your own.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Shins]
#14026477 - 02/25/11 04:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I voted 'need more info' because I think there are situations where invasion would be warranted, but I don't think we've exhausted our options at this point. Right now I don't think we can afford another overseas war. $410,000,000 per day for Iraq and Afghanistan and I heard a rumor that the U.S. was financially unsound! Also, sanctions are working. They may not be working perfectly, but they have isolated Iran and are helping put pressure on the government. Large sections of the Iranian population are very dissatisfied with the current government. Just look at the failed coup in 2009. Given a chance, another popular revolt might be successful. Iran's neighbors fear and distrust her. Look at the wikileaks documents showing how other Mideast countries feel about Iran. Saudi Arabia wants the U.S. to 'cut the head off the snake'(Iran). Maybe the mideast countries should team up and deal with their local problems themselves. I think the U.S. gets involved often when it shouldn't and makes things worse. Also, most nuclear observers say that Iran is far from being able to produce functional nuclear weapons and no where near being able to reach the U.S. with them. Sure, they might get there some day, but it is actually not that easy.
On the other hand, I know we need access to oil and I am afraid of nukes. I also think Ahmadinejad and the Muslim clerics who run the country are nut cases. So depending on the circumstances I would support a war. I would put it as a last option though.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: nikoD]
#14026481 - 02/25/11 04:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm antizionist and think america's standing would go up in the world if there were not israel, so fuck it.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: Shins]
#14026492 - 02/25/11 04:58 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shins said: You should respect a higher justice than just your own.
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Re: Potential War with IRAN - YAY or NAY? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14026596 - 02/25/11 05:20 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that every one of us has a little glimpse and relying only on my own would be unwise if i seek the truest possible view of "god's mind."
The sanctions have actually been somewhat of a boon for Iran because it has encouraged it to develop it's economy at home.
Meanwhile, the USA is spread thin like not enough butter on a toast and is falling apart financially.
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