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Crobih
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Whos fault is global terrorism?
#1402390 - 03/23/03 05:52 AM (21 years, 11 days ago) |
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There is a wave of the global terrorism expecting US and many other countries. Thousands will die from it. Though, it will be just a retaliation of Saddam for agression on his country, for all this shit I gonna blame Bush, Blaire and his supporters.
Not, Muslims not saddam. It is not their fault not to let being swaped cuase they do nto have a mighty army.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Crobih]
#1402440 - 03/23/03 06:10 AM (21 years, 11 days ago) |
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Religion and war mongers(bush and blaire for example"
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Crobih]
#1402561 - 03/23/03 06:44 AM (21 years, 11 days ago) |
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Whos fault is global terrorism?
The ignorant fucking cowardly scumbags who perform the acts.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Crobih]
#1402862 - 03/23/03 09:04 AM (21 years, 11 days ago) |
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it will be just a retaliation of Saddam for agression on his country
I think Iraq will be glad they don't have Saddam in power anymore. Why would they hate the ones who sacraficed so much to help destroy a tyrant and free their country? They won't terrorize America after this war, trust me.
I'm sure there will be more terrorist attacks after the war from other Arab countries, but I assure you that these terrorists would still be terrorists no matter what, and they would do what they do anyways.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Murex]
#1402882 - 03/23/03 09:13 AM (21 years, 11 days ago) |
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They won't terrorize America after this war, trust me.
What do you think it's like over there now? Nice? You must think it's nice over there, and that hundreds of missles and bombs are a good way of making friends.
I think this will increase terrorist pressures.
Get used to your 'security alerts' and further rollback of citizen rights America...I trust that in this way terrorist attacks may be avoided.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Crobih]
#1402969 - 03/23/03 09:53 AM (21 years, 11 days ago) |
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for all this shit I gonna blame Bush, Blaire and his supporters.
How about human nature? Tis' inevitable.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: pimpadelic]
#1403202 - 03/23/03 11:19 AM (21 years, 11 days ago) |
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Religion and war mongers(bush and blaire for example"
Religion does not explain the current situation. There wouldn't be much of a difference if religion didn't exist, but I admit religion is abused in many wars (but certainly not the cause of these conflicts). Both Saddam Hussein and George Bush have used Qur'anic and Biblical references; to again, further their own agendas, but the root of any conflict is not religion, but always something earthly.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Crobih]
#1403236 - 03/23/03 11:33 AM (21 years, 11 days ago) |
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This war, and the following wars that Bush will start are going to polarize this country.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Crobih]
#1403484 - 03/23/03 01:10 PM (21 years, 11 days ago) |
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I don't know if it's on topic but my friend said this in an email to me...
"And nobody brings up that if Bin Laden was to blow up the twin towers and then give money to build them up afterwards it should be okay.Just like bush is doing. We will blow up Iraq then give them money to buy stuff from us to build them up again. So his business buddies make money in post-war Iraq."
another quote from him...
"The news people just repeat what the Pentagon just said. Over and over and over and over again. LIBERATION! FREEDOM! Nothing about how we are making sure that Saddam's missles have just enough range not to hit Israel. He can have missiles as long as they don't go anywhere. Only as long as he uses them on the Kurds. In his own country with our approval and our germs."
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Crobih]
#1403531 - 03/23/03 01:31 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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what a shock , it's our fault...what ever shall we do.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Innvertigo]
#1403556 - 03/23/03 01:39 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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I believe that those who commit acts of terror should be held accountable, but at the same time, we should at least examine ourselves as a nation and look at why these people hate us so much.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: silversoul7]
#1403570 - 03/23/03 01:42 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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as do i but which side should stop first? Should it be the ones killing innocent people or the ones defending themselves from it? I'm all for peace and would like nothing more than to ignore that part of the world but what is your solution to this problem?
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Innvertigo]
#1403587 - 03/23/03 01:47 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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as do i but which side should stop first? Should it be the ones killing innocent people or the ones defending themselves from it? I'm all for peace and would like nothing more than to ignore that part of the world but what is your solution to this problem?
They should both stop, but we can't tell the other side to stop, tho we can stop ourselves. We can defend ourselves from terrorism as long as the defense doesn't turn into aggression(read "pre-emptive strike").
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: silversoul7]
#1403871 - 03/23/03 03:35 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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I think the blame falls on all sides. America has made policy without understanding or trying to understand how it affects or is perceived in the rest of the world, mainly the Arab world. But that is no excuse to kill civillians on vacation and going to work any more that a cheating husband should be killed by his wife for his indiscretions.
But terrorism has been carried out by Arabs against Arabs as well. It is a tool of desperate people who don't distinguish between a government and its citizens.
It seems that there has been a recent push in the US to understand Islam and why they hate us. I haven't seen any evidence of Islam trying to understand America.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: carbonhoots]
#1403944 - 03/23/03 04:09 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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Yeah, doing nothing and letting us be a good target for terrorist attacks is probably the best way to go.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Murex]
#1403949 - 03/23/03 04:11 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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If we did nothing there would be fewer terrorist attacks.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Murex]
#1403951 - 03/23/03 04:11 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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Yeah, doing nothing and letting us be a good target for terrorist attacks is probably the best way to go.
What about doing something DEFENSIVE rather than OFFENSIVE? Violence begets violence.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: silversoul7]
#1403954 - 03/23/03 04:13 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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we should at least examine ourselves as a nation and look at why these people hate us so much
I can think of many reasons, but none of them good reasons. Jealousy is the root of it thow.
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What about doing something DEFENSIVE rather than OFFENSIVE? Violence begets violence.
Destroying a threat that can become a VERY powerful threat in the near future is the best defense imo.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Murex]
#1403975 - 03/23/03 04:18 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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The best defense is a good offense.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Murex]
#1403990 - 03/23/03 04:22 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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Destroying a threat that can become a VERY powerful threat in the near future is the best defense imo.
This is where the problem lies....in not knowing. I could hear rumors about you making WMD's, attack you, then find out you had no WMD's in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, the US Government has not given us any solid evidence that Iraq holds most of the weapons they say they do. Whenever Powell presented "evidence" it was always in the form of "possibly" or "capable". It was never "We know this for a fact, here's the evidence:".
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Murex]
#1403996 - 03/23/03 04:24 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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we should at least examine ourselves as a nation and look at why these people hate us so much
I can think of many reasons, but none of them good reasons. Jealousy is the root of it thow.
It must feel nice to be that naive.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Crobih]
#1403998 - 03/23/03 04:24 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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Bush isn't responsible for global terrorism!
Who shot the pope, who was the sniper, who ran into the WTC, who were the terrorists at the olympics, who're these suicide bombers?
You're right, Bush is responsible for global terrorism.
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This is where the problem lies....in not knowing. I could hear rumors about you making WMD's, attack you, then find out you had no WMD's in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, the US Government has not given us any solid evidence that Iraq holds most of the weapons they say they do. Whenever Powell presented "evidence" it was always in the form of "possibly" or "capable". It was never "We know this for a fact, here's the evidence:".
There are so many ways of evading the inspectors that it's basically inneffective (sending in inspectors). We know for a FACT that Saddam is a threat to many countries as well as it's own. If you don't think he is because you have no 'proof' then you are a retard for not opening your eyes and realizing how easy it is for Saddam to be descret. [They also say they have found some bio-weapons recently btw]
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: silversoul7]
#1404017 - 03/23/03 04:31 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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It must feel nice to be that naive.
Then why do they hate us when we are so far away and their own government is repressing and killing them?
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Murex]
#1404028 - 03/23/03 04:36 PM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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It must feel nice to be that naive.
Then why do they hate us when we are so far away and their own government is repressing and killing them?
Do you really think it's just their government that's repressing and killing them? Also, I'm not just talking about Iraq, here. The fact that you and so many other Americans think that the rest of the world hates us because they are jealous is exactly the kind of arrogance that they hate about us. How about the fact that we feel we are even entitled to change another country's leader? No nation meddles in the affairs of other nations more than the good old U.S. of A.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1404720 - 03/24/03 01:47 AM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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The ignorant fucking cowardly scumbags who perform the acts.
I gotta go with that one.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Innvertigo]
#1404732 - 03/24/03 01:59 AM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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as do i but which side should stop first? Should it be the ones killing innocent people or the ones defending themselves from it? I'm all for peace and would like nothing more than to ignore that part of the world but what is your solution to this problem?
They say that the smart one stops first. And which side does not kill innocent people?
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: zeronio]
#1404820 - 03/24/03 03:06 AM (21 years, 10 days ago) |
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Zeronio --
Did you vote in the referendums about Slovenia's future? The ones deciding whether or not Slovenia should join the EU and NATO?
I'm not asking you which way you voted on the questions -- that's a private thing that you should tell only if you wish to. I am just curious to see if you voted.
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Re: Whos fault is global terrorism? [Re: Phred]
#1407034 - 03/24/03 07:45 PM (21 years, 9 days ago) |
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Yes, I voted. For EU & against NATO. We're going to join both anyway. NATO had good chances to fall, until the tragic death of Serbian premier. So some borders are going to fall and new walls will be built on the border with Croatia. We will have to double the budget for the military and we will have to spend it on american weapons. And in exchange we will be protected from terrorists. NATO troops were occasionally present even before. lol I once couldn't beleive my eyes when I met a fully armed and equiped american soldier trespassing my property. He was dropped in the middle of nowhere and had to walk back in the full summer heat. I showed him the way but he refused to drink a cold beer with me. He said he was on duty. What a lousy job.
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