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    #14023841 - 02/25/11 02:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

So, I have been asking myself for a while now, does this compartments between gills (lower right image) has any functionality/do they offer any identification clue. Observed that at many specieses.

http://agrozoo.net/gallery/russula-fellea


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Re: compartments between gills [Re: BubikolRamios]
    #14024479 - 02/25/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Is English your first language? Also to not answer your question; I have no clue.


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Re: compartments between gills [Re: mrckb]
    #14024487 - 02/25/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Nope, but do correct me if something wrong, which I think it is not (-:


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Re: compartments between gills [Re: BubikolRamios]
    #14024583 - 02/25/11 09:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not aware of any identification keys relying specifically on inter-gill structures. Nevertheless, especially in the identification of cantharellaceae, attention is sometimes spent on the webbed structures between the (false) gills.


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Re: compartments between gills [Re: koraks]
    #14024771 - 02/25/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, interwoven gill trama is an i.d characteristic.

The trama of most fungi is either interwoven or parallel (or something in between).


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Re: compartments between gills [Re: HerbBaker]
    #14025487 - 02/25/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, lamellar trama is an identifying characteristic but the image that Bubikol is referring to only shows a macroscopic characteristic of the species in question which is very common in many species of the genus Russula, the term "lamellar trama" or "hymenophoral trama" refers to the form of the context or flesh of the lamellae, it can only be viewed with a microscope.


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Re: compartments between gills [Re: inski]
    #14025818 - 02/25/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for pointing that out Inski.

They are called "cross-veins", if the cross-veins connect the gills together, they are called intervenose.
In the pic above they appear very weakly subintervenose.

This feature can be used to help identify mushrooms.

Something like this..
"Gills - Not intervenose. But in some large mature caps very weakly subintervenose."


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Re: compartments between gills [Re: HerbBaker]
    #14027389 - 02/25/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Another term for it is anastomoses. Cantharellaceae often show fertile surfaces where the ridges (pseudogills) are strongly anastomosed.

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Re: compartments between gills [Re: ToxicMan]
    #14027791 - 02/25/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Another term is veined or interveined.

intervenose (gills): provided with veins between the gills

anastomosis: cross connections between largely parallel elements (e.g. gills, hyphae or the
ornaments on spores) to form a loose network.

Intervenose is specific to mushroom gills, anastomosis is not.



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Re: compartments between gills [Re: HerbBaker]
    #14086963 - 03/08/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You may also hear them referred to as crossribs.


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Re: compartments between gills [Re: HerbBaker]
    #14087351 - 03/08/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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HerbBaker said:
You may also hear them referred to as crossribs.




Crossribs applays to macrostructures (as seen on my photo), right ? Or not ?


Edited by BubikolRamios (03/08/11 03:34 PM)


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Re: compartments between gills [Re: BubikolRamios]
    #14087663 - 03/08/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, macroscopic.


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Re: compartments between gills [Re: HerbBaker]
    #14091678 - 03/09/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You may also hear them referred to as rugae.


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