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Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? * 1
    #14019780 - 02/24/11 12:40 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

I have been growing Lophophora Williamsii (Northern var) for 17 years this year.

This was my first plant, i bought when it was aged 15 years with the plan of eating it as soon as I got home from Amsterdam and letting the root regrow.

Even tho it was not as impressive as it is now by the time i got home I was in love with the little furry bastard and decided as it already had about 50 seeds on it i should keep it as a seed factory and grow them.

I have only eaten the buttons once which i harvested from several 5-6 year old seed grown plants, I harvested them at the end of the 5 month winter dormancy period and ate 70 grams of flesh. I know normally dry wieght is the only true measure for % of flesh being alkaloids but at the end of winter there is very little water so alkaloid content is at maximum % that it would be from fresh flesh so i am assuming I am meeting the average of 4% as stated by Adam Gottlieb.

By my comparisons this was a mild but enjoyable experience with zero nausea, after all i had read and the 5-6 years i had waited growing them  i could'nt help but be a bit dissapointed especially that i never left my body or used my vomit bucket that i had on stand by.

Due to this i promised that next time i eat the flesh i will make sure the plants I harvest the buttons from are fully mature.

it is now 12 years after the time i ate these buttons from the 5-6 year old Peyotes, the stumps left behind now have multiple heads, this is one of them


I now have many impressive fully mature specimens like the grandfather totum at the top of this thread.

Check my galleries if you want to see them all.

Anyway i side tracked :grin: my original reason for this thread.

I am harvesting the buttons from these 4 x 16 year old seed grown Peyote


I have waited 12 years for this experience and my expectations are high, I am again harvesting the flesh at the end of the dormant period (mid March) and I am going to eat as much as my stomach can hold (vomit bucket on standby which i will try my very best not to use at all).

I have used psychedelics for years and i dream about this one and have done for years, I have ate over 250grams of T.pach harvested at the end of dormancy is it really gonna be that much different to that?

I would like to know from anyone who has eaten the real deal what i am in for, is it all it is wrote about and more?


Close ups of the four 16 year olds i am harvesting the buttons from in March

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14019861 - 02/24/11 12:56 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

OMG OMG OMG!!!! sorry I have no help on your question but I gotta tell you how fucking impressing your cacti are!!! I have never experienced peyote at all even though I have always said I will someday I fear I am getting to old... I mean I am 25 now and if i could get seeds by your time scale I would be 40 by the time I would be able to eat them... and thats IF i could get some seeds which I cant but anyway Your cacti garden is mega bad ass man!!!

Somebody with a little know how needs to nominate your "grandfather totem" as the damn Pic of the month that is one bad mammer jammer

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: TrowaBarton]
    #14019870 - 02/24/11 12:59 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

I am quickly approaching 40 hahaha and I started in my early 20's on this journey, your going to get to 40 whether you have many peyote when your 40 or not is up to you

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14019900 - 02/24/11 01:06 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

This is true and to do it at 40 would be good enough for me!! but I still have no way to grow them my only hope would be to actually find them in the wild which might happen a buddie of my wants to take a few serious hiking trips so I guess ill just have to keep my fingers crossed... I have heard they rarely grow in the wild anymore do you know if that is true?

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: TrowaBarton]
    #14019963 - 02/24/11 01:21 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

I have heard they are endangered in the wild and in many areas they have a protected status whether this is enforced or not I could not say.

If your in USA you might as well grow some San Pedro, within 5 years you could have serious amounts of flesh to eat and you can get great genetics i8n USA as it is not yet illegal, get yourself a Blackeberg (i think thats how it is spelt) clone and your laughing. Or you could get 100 seed of any trichocereus from a popular worldwide auction site and before you know it you could have hundreds of them growing

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14019997 - 02/24/11 01:29 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Yea you have a good point but san pedro are not as beautiful as peyote... I think you have inspired me enough though to go ahead and give it a shot... hell you can get san pedro anywhere here in the US

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: TrowaBarton]
    #14020016 - 02/24/11 01:32 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Some good eating once you get the spines off, a stomach full lasts 12-15 hour

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: TrowaBarton]
    #14020023 - 02/24/11 01:34 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14020030 - 02/24/11 01:35 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Wow nice cactus man :smile: happy tripping :awegroove:


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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: waves]
    #14020087 - 02/24/11 01:48 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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I have been blessed with the opportunity to eat, and to drink in tea, fully mature naturally grown Peyote five times. :heart:

The first experience was the most intense. I have been meaning to type up a trip report for a long time now. One of these days I will get around to it. I didn't grow any of it though, so I might not be that helpful.

Let me know if you have any questions about the experience though. Your peyote looks beautiful!




Would enjoy reading your report, even a brief comparative description of sorts, i am 90% excited 10% nervous out of sheer respect for the plant and the knowledge in its flesh and the fact i've grown it for 17 years dreaming about it.

I'm sure even tho you never grew it the experience was great but i guess like any other thing you grow and consume it amplifies the pleasure of the experience and that goes for any other plant i've grown from strawberries and cannabis to fungi and trichocereus the home grown ones were always that much more enjoyed.

This is why i am asking experienced users on their views, they are going to be as potent as Peyote can be that is without any artificial dopamine injections to increase alkaloid content(I have not done this). Mine have been grown naturally and i am harvesting at the end of the drought to maximise the % of the flesh that is active.

haha 10% of the nerves kicked in there, I get propa shudders right through me and my heart rate increases if i think about it too long like right now ive got mild amphetamine-like rushes on the back of my neck and goosebumps on my arms

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14020116 - 02/24/11 01:55 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

your patience is unreal! growing peyote for 12 years! MAD PROPS man mad props.

i hope its everything you ever expected it to be and more! and i know it will be, this kind of dedication does pay off.

good luck and i hope you find what your looking for :cactuarrun: :peace:


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    #14020130 - 02/24/11 01:58 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Beautiful cacti!

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14020138 - 02/24/11 02:00 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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Those pups are INSANE!


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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: Forager]
    #14020160 - 02/24/11 02:04 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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Those pups are INSANE!




Approx 700 home harvested peyote seed and 100 T.Peruvianus matucana bought from a company that show cacti at the RHS Chelsea Flower Show.

I will be taking some more pics on 13th March when they are 3 months old

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14020224 - 02/24/11 02:14 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Ive eaten peyote about 10 times in several different native american church style meetings and on a couple of occaisions by myself holding a private ceremony. I like the taste of the fresh buttons better than dried but the dried is way stronger if you can choke it down with water.  With mature peyote i find it's effects can be vastly different depending on the quantity you eat. The lower doses feel very stimulating, euphoric and and glowing, and the alteration in consciousness is profound although little to no visual activity is occuring. A low dose is around 4-8 buttons of half dollar size or 5 heaping teaspoons of dried powder. This level often is all that folks can reach for their first few times mostly because of the nausea and the taste and they are less than blown away because of their preconcieved ideas about peyote. A lot of the stuff you hear about it is hearsay, and not every time will it blast you into the cosmos. Esp if you don't eat much and it's not very strong medicine. You really have to eat a lot to get anywhere near as intense an experience as mushrooms or LSD but the capability is there for peyote to produce strong and even uncomfortable experiences.

Higher doses become more like ayahuasca replete with extreme time dilation, strong visual phenomena including the "oil painting" effect (where everything looks like an oil painting), closed eye visuals and visions. Psychic, spiritual emotional and physical purging are common at this level. A medium-high dose is around 12-24 buttons fresh or 10-20 heaping teaspoons of dried.

I watch my diet carefully beforehand to minimize nausea. don't eat processed foods or junk for a few days, and keep an empty stomach 6 hours beforehand. This has become a must for me because peyote TEARS up my stomach if i have crap food in there and sitting for 12+ hours in a meeting becomes difficult at that point. I find if the peyote finds something in you it doesn't like its coming out. Living a pure life with a clear conscience really makes it easy. If you are a total douche, and less than humble peyote is gonna have fun with you.
Feel free to PM me for any further questions.


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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #14020495 - 02/24/11 03:04 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Nice cacti dude!

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #14020970 - 02/24/11 04:49 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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I watch my diet carefully beforehand to minimize nausea. don't eat processed foods or junk for a few days, and keep an empty stomach 6 hours beforehand. This has become a must for me because peyote TEARS up my stomach if i have crap food in there and sitting for 12+ hours in a meeting becomes difficult at that point. I find if the peyote finds something in you it doesn't like its coming out. Living a pure life with a clear conscience really makes it easy. If you are a total douche, and less than humble peyote is gonna have fun with you.
Feel free to PM me for any further questions.




This is similar to how I treat all psychedelic consumption. I never eat processed foods normally so i am okay there. I fast for 24 hours before any entheogen out of respect for the experience and so that i can eat more than i would be able to with food in my stomach.

I enjoy the taste of fresh cacti, the first bite is biter but then it just takes over and i start to saviour it, just like chewing on cyanescens the first one i'm nearly sick and then i start to enjoy it.

I am planning on giving myself completely to the Peyote and eating at least 150-200 grams of flesh in 2 stages, similar to when i eat San Pedro. I usually manage to get around 250-300 grams of pedro down me but

I am not expecting to be able to get as much Peyote in my gut due to the hightened nausia ive read about, i never experienced any nausia with the younger buttons but the buttons i am harvesting this time are from plants i have grown from seed for 16 years this year.

When you mentioned Ayahuascha that made me smile because I hope it to be like the intensity of 40mg smoked NN'DMT but lasting for around 12 hours instead of 10-15 mins.

Thanks for your words of experience.

Must have been quite a unique experience doing the religeous ceremonies with it. I am not of any religeon but i definitely connect to the Universe with my plant use and it makes me want to be a better person so i suppose that counts as spiritual.

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14021347 - 02/24/11 05:50 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

In Uk you can get them all over the place check for Ariocarpus Williamsii and you will be fine. They are totally legal unless you perform extractions of any sort of preparation for consumption (like making a T).

I can not link you to anywhere as that is against Shroomery rules but trust me you won't have to look far.

I brought my first one when it was 15 years old through customs in my hand luggage from Amsterdam (pre sept 11 2001 lol)

All psychoactive cacti are legal here, you can pick up Trichocereus species in garden centres aand nurseries everywhere.

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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: GGTBod]
    #14021406 - 02/24/11 05:58 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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I have been growing Lophophora Williamsii (Northern var) for 17 years this year.

This was my first plant, i bought when it was aged 15 years with the plan of eating it as soon as I got home from Amsterdam and letting the root regrow.

Even tho it was not as impressive as it is now by the time i got home I was in love with the little furry bastard and decided as it already had about 50 seeds on it i should keep it as a seed factory and grow them.

I have only eaten the buttons once which i harvested from several 5-6 year old seed grown plants, I harvested them at the end of the 5 month winter dormancy period and ate 70 grams of flesh. I know normally dry wieght is the only true measure for % of flesh being alkaloids but at the end of winter there is very little water so alkaloid content is at maximum % that it would be from fresh flesh so i am assuming I am meeting the average of 4% as stated by Adam Gottlieb.

By my comparisons this was a mild but enjoyable experience with zero nausea, after all i had read and the 5-6 years i had waited growing them  i could'nt help but be a bit dissapointed especially that i never left my body or used my vomit bucket that i had on stand by.

Due to this i promised that next time i eat the flesh i will make sure the plants I harvest the buttons from are fully mature.

it is now 12 years after the time i ate these buttons from the 5-6 year old Peyotes, the stumps left behind now have multiple heads, this is one of them


I now have many impressive fully mature specimens like the grandfather totum at the top of this thread.

Check my galleries if you want to see them all.

Anyway i side tracked :grin: my original reason for this thread.

I am harvesting the buttons from these 4 x 16 year old seed grown Peyote


I have waited 12 years for this experience and my expectations are high, I am again harvesting the flesh at the end of the dormant period (mid March) and I am going to eat as much as my stomach can hold (vomit bucket on standby which i will try my very best not to use at all).

I have used psychedelics for years and i dream about this one and have done for years, I have ate over 250grams of T.pach harvested at the end of dormancy is it really gonna be that much different to that?

I would like to know from anyone who has eaten the real deal what i am in for, is it all it is wrote about and more?


Close ups of the four 16 year olds i am harvesting the buttons from in March






eat a few more. 7-8 id be afraid 4 wouldnt do it for me.


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Re: Has anyone here eaten fully mature naturally grown Peyote? [Re: sui]
    #14021454 - 02/24/11 06:04 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

I dont think you have any idea from the pictures the actual size of these buttons, they are 10cm across and 4 cm high, each is the size of a cricket ball (bigger than a baseball but smaller than a softball). Average mescaline content of fresh flesh is 4% (Gottlieb) so if I eat 100grams i get 400mg mescaline, I am planning on eating around 200grams approx 800mg mescaline plus the other 49 alkaloids that are present.

The 4 buttons are going to yield about 800grams of flesh

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