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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: PurpleMushroomZeta]
    #14049944 - 03/01/11 05:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

> Sweden is even more likely to turn him over to the US that the UK is.

For what?  The US hasn't charged him with any crime.


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: Seuss]
    #14049967 - 03/01/11 05:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

That had me confused too... I briefly looked up what the US has to do with this, and couldn't find anything.

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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #14049973 - 03/01/11 05:41 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
I find that to have been abhorrent, disruptive and harmful.  As far as I'm aware not one shred of wrongdoing has been exposed.  Who elected that mentally defective cunt to be the arbiter of what is and is not secret?  Not me.




The Truth is our enemy.  It must be ruthlessly repressed.


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: DieCommie]
    #14049991 - 03/01/11 05:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It was a bunch of paranoid bullshit the pervert fuck had his lawyers present


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: Seuss]
    #14050120 - 03/01/11 06:06 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Seuss said:
> Sweden is even more likely to turn him over to the US that the UK is.

For what?  The US hasn't charged him with any crime.



Not charged yet, but we can hold people indefinitely without charging them now.  The man's a terrorist for God's sake.


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: PurpleMushroomZeta] * 1
    #14050130 - 03/01/11 06:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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PurpleMushroomZeta said:
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Seuss said:
> Sweden is even more likely to turn him over to the US that the UK is.

For what?  The US hasn't charged him with any crime.



Not charged yet, but we can hold people indefinitely without charging them now.  The man's a terrorist for God's sake.




Yep. Just do the American thing, and toss him in the Philly brig without charges, and forget he exists.


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: TGRR]
    #14050162 - 03/01/11 06:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, i don't think manning will ever see the light of day or a courtroom


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: Taco Chef]
    #14050179 - 03/01/11 06:13 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Oh that's pretty dumb.  Manning is most definitely getting a courtroom.  Then a cell.  For a long, long time.


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14050248 - 03/01/11 06:24 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
I find that to have been abhorrent, disruptive and harmful.  As far as I'm aware not one shred of wrongdoing has been exposed.  Who elected that mentally defective cunt to be the arbiter of what is and is not secret?  Not me.




Kidnapping an innocent German civilian?(illegal)

Spying on UN officials(very very illegal)

US soldiers killing Iraqi journalists.

The US turning a blind eye to the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by the government we instated.

Or how about the fact that 2/3s of all deaths in Iraq have been innocent civilians.

Thats just the things hes exposed about the US. Dont get me started on Kenya.

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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14050311 - 03/01/11 06:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Oh that's pretty dumb.  Manning is most definitely getting a courtroom.  Then a cell.  For a long, long time.





nah Zap i honestly think they're going to use various elements of the patriot act to prevent the trial cause even in a show trial or military trial the defense gets discovery, and no administration, D or R is going to let that happen.

and i'm not saying that as a person who thinks he was charged falsely, at the very least he broke the USMC


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: Atomsk]
    #14050330 - 03/01/11 06:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Journalists who hang with enemy combatants can expect zero immunity. 

Now what group do you suppose is responsible for killing most of those civilians?  Hint, it isn't US.

Fuck the UN, everybody spies on them.  You'd be an irresponsible jackass not to.

I have no idea what you are referring to about the German guy.


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14050382 - 03/01/11 06:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Journalists who hang with enemy combatants can expect zero immunity. 

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No they werent.



Quote:


Fuck the UN, everybody spies on them.  You'd be an irresponsible jackass not to.





Hurr breaking the law is ok when merrka does it.

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I have no idea what you are referring to about the German guy.




http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/01/wikileaks-and-the-el.html

I forgot to mention he was also tortured for months.

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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: Atomsk]
    #14050625 - 03/01/11 07:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Atomsk said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
I find that to have been abhorrent, disruptive and harmful.  As far as I'm aware not one shred of wrongdoing has been exposed.  Who elected that mentally defective cunt to be the arbiter of what is and is not secret?  Not me.




Kidnapping an innocent German civilian?(illegal)

Spying on UN officials(very very illegal)

US soldiers killing Iraqi journalists.

The US turning a blind eye to the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by the government we instated.

Or how about the fact that 2/3s of all deaths in Iraq have been innocent civilians.

Thats just the things hes exposed about the US. Dont get me started on Kenya.



Zappaisgod said wrongdoing.  There's nothing wrong with keeping America safe from terrorists.  Freedom is on the march.


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: Atomsk]
    #14053514 - 03/02/11 09:28 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Atomsk said:
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zappaisgod said:
Journalists who hang with enemy combatants can expect zero immunity. 

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No they werent.






Yes they were.  The whole video is available and has been repeatedly dissected.  Not the wikileaks lying edited version.  Facts suck for you.
Quote:



Quote:


Fuck the UN, everybody spies on them.  You'd be an irresponsible jackass not to.





Hurr breaking the law is ok when merrka does it.




Did you see the part where I pointed out that everybody does it?

Oh, and fuck the UN. 
Quote:



Quote:


I have no idea what you are referring to about the German guy.




http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/01/wikileaks-and-the-el.html

I forgot to mention he was also tortured for months.




So he says.  They arrested him, figured out he was not the guy and let him go.  Happens all the time.


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14053758 - 03/02/11 10:16 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Yes they were.  The whole video is available and has been repeatedly dissected.  Not the wikileaks lying edited version.  Facts suck for you.




Cool sources bro.

Quote:

So he says.  They arrested him, figured out he was not the guy and let him go.  Happens all the time.




Would you be saying the same thing if the Russian government just picked you out of the streets and tortured you for months without any trial or the permission of your government?

The US does not have the right to kidnap(not arrest) foreign citizens, especially those of our allies.

People being picked out of the streets by foreign powers and sent to secret prison for torture does not "happen all the time"

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Did you see the part where I pointed out that everybody does it?




Once again, breaking the law is breaking the law.

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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: Atomsk]
    #14053782 - 03/02/11 10:22 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

The US does not have the right to kidnap(not arrest) foreign citizens, especially those of our allies.




Who then, do you claim, dispenses such rights?

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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: DieCommie]
    #14053800 - 03/02/11 10:26 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Quote:

The US does not have the right to kidnap(not arrest) foreign citizens, especially those of our allies.




Who then, do you claim, dispenses such rights?




Could you rephrase that please?

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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: Atomsk]
    #14053854 - 03/02/11 10:41 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Who is the arbiter of what rights are and are not had?  Who, do you claim, dispenses them?

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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: DieCommie]
    #14055698 - 03/02/11 04:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

DieCommie said:
Quote:

The US does not have the right to kidnap(not arrest) foreign citizens, especially those of our allies.




Who then, do you claim, dispenses such rights?




The same people that dispense the right to tweakers to kill you for your wallet and cell phone.


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Re: Extradited to that third world hellhole of injustice, Sweden [Re: DieCommie]
    #14057669 - 03/02/11 11:26 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

DieCommie said:
Who is the arbiter of what rights are and are not had?  Who, do you claim, dispenses them?





Ummm... a basic sense of human decency?

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