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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Janamil]
#14018412 - 02/24/11 05:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm willing to assume you're serious about this, and also that you've spent a lot of time into this. I'm not willing to accept your theory as true until you prove otherwise, and that's not because I think you're crazy, but because in my opinion your theory lacks any form of face validity.
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So you can fucking stop calling me crazy until I can at least have enough of a chance to write it.
I called you insane once because your OP was extremely incoherent. I consider lots of people on here insane. It's the primary merit of this community, the disproportionate number of members that cannot be considered sane by the standards of most 'regular' people.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Irishdrunk]
#14018415 - 02/24/11 06:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some of the behaviors exhibited by someone with AS may be seen by others as intentionally rude, many people wrongly assume that AS is the result of bad parenting — it isn't. It's a neurobiological disorder whose causes are not yet fully understood.
Currently, there is no cure for the disorder — kids with AS become adults with AS. But many lead full and happy lives, and the likelihood of achieving this is enhanced with appropriate education, support, and resources.
There is no cure, please see a doctor dude.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Janamil]
#14018418 - 02/24/11 06:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Okay, again. I said I will "PROVE" or whatever, justify. Explain, whatever. All I am asking is for you to believe that I have.
All I am asking is the awnser to the theoretical question, not some bullshit argument about how I couldnt of done this. I don't give a flying fuck what you think. I dont know why you keep on insisting in telling me how Its impossible for me to do this. I dont care.
Again, Im publishing my final on the first.
I dont see why after me posting about three times, I want you to assume Im right so you can answer the theoretical question but apparently you didn't see that.
All I am asking for is this question to be resolved. Not for another bullshit argument.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Irishdrunk]
#14018419 - 02/24/11 06:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some of the behaviors exhibited by someone with AS may be seen by others as intentionally rude, many people wrongly assume that AS is the result of bad parenting — it isn't. It's a neurobiological disorder whose causes are not yet fully understood.
Currently, there is no cure for the disorder — kids with AS become adults with AS. But many lead full and happy lives, and the likelihood of achieving this is enhanced with appropriate education, support, and resources.
There is no cure, please see a doctor dude.
Jesus fucking christ, have I not said. "Can you please assume I am correct so you could maybe answer my question" but apparently no one can pull there head out of there ass.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: koraks]
#14018420 - 02/24/11 06:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Can we just please assume I have cured autism here, and that I am dealing with the symptoms in treating it?
We don't need to assume you cured autism.
If you're applying some form of treatment, then it suffices to state what the treatment is, and other people can then evaluate if it's likely to cause adverse side effects. As far as I can tell, you keep asserting that you're treating yourself and that it has 'healed' or alleviated your autism (I wouldn't consider autism a sickness, neither do I consider it curable) and that you suspect that as a side effect, your CSF pressure is fluctuating. But you still haven't mentioned the nature of the treatment, and you're completely stuck on the concept that the only possible/relevant side effect is a completely far-fetched effect that is about as unlikely as it gets.
So either explain what treatment you're administering in order to trigger feedback on that, or just write the paper and submit it to Nature.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Janamil]
#14018421 - 02/24/11 06:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The nature of the treatment is not validated to change CSF other then in a few cases as of right now. So there is no way to understand it in a "common" way. That is why I am asking is if general CSF fluctuations could be dangerous.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Janamil]
#14018422 - 02/24/11 06:05 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Janamil said: god, again. Can we just please assume I have cured autism here, and that I am dealing with the symptoms in treating it?
Theoretically, would could I accidentally exhibit damage without knowing it due to CFH pressure when my body/brain is use to much more then it is subjected to now. Also, it changes back sometimes, back and forth if I fuck up the balance.
Again, please Im asking theoretically. I just want an answer, I dont give a damn if you believe Ive cured autism or not.
No one is going to assume you cured Autism, because there is cure yet. Of course you might have found a cure using stem cells and altered DNA, but I doubt that highly. 
By the way, we care and love everyone at shroomery, so don't think we're against you in any way. We just know that there is no cure and you need the proper help for your syndrome.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Janamil]
#14018425 - 02/24/11 06:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Autism doesnt alter DNA dude, it alters a a few chromosomes sometimes but no, it is not caused from DNA. That is downs.
Please, for the people that do not know what they are talking about. Please assume I am right so you may pull your head out of your ass and try to answer my question to the best of your ability.
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Can we just please assume I have cured autism here, and that I am dealing with the symptoms in treating it?
We don't need to assume you cured autism.
If you're applying some form of treatment, then it suffices to state what the treatment is, and other people can then evaluate if it's likely to cause adverse side effects. As far as I can tell, you keep asserting that you're treating yourself and that it has 'healed' or alleviated your autism (I wouldn't consider autism a sickness, neither do I consider it curable) and that you suspect that as a side effect, your CSF pressure is fluctuating. But you still haven't mentioned the nature of the treatment, and you're completely stuck on the concept that the only possible/relevant side effect is a completely far-fetched effect that is about as unlikely as it gets.
So either explain what treatment you're administering in order to trigger feedback on that, or just write the paper and submit it to Nature.
Actually in the loss of CFS during a leak, a person will gain a mass headache and feel dizziness and weird feelings when shaking there head. I do not have headaches, but I don't know if I could still be causing damage because my brain/body is not use to this.
Its unexplored territory and I need hypothetical/theoretical answers. Please again, just assume this is happening.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Irishdrunk]
#14018434 - 02/24/11 06:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The CSF has important functions in circulation and nourishment of body tissues.
Fluid Exchange is vital to normal physiology. All the processes of life occur because fluids flow: Through channels, across membranes, and within open spaces. Should the flow of fluids stagnate, all of life becomes diminished and health is compromised. Cerebro-Spinal Fluid (CSF) surrounds our brain and spinal cord. A mere 140 ml of fluid bathes the brain and fills the ventricles (internal cavities of the brain).
This Cerebro-Spinal Fluid replenishes itself 3-4 times each day. Once thought only to provide buoyancy, CSF has now been discovered to provide important nutrient functions. Not only are essential substances made available, but harmful substances are cleared away. CSF establishes a stable and specialized fluid environment for nerve cells.
There are no lymphatic vessels within the Central Nervous System. The brain and spinal cord are instead cleaned by the rapid creation and absorption of the Cerebro-Spinal Fluid. This circulation of CSF was once thought be a closed system. To speak of movement of CSF outside of the brain into the periphery was considered heresy. Recent studies, however, now reveal that CSF is in direct communication with the lymphatic system of the rest of the body.
And some lymph nodes are located on the back of the neck....which would cause sore tightness at that location. And it says yes, CSF is very important.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Janamil]
#14018436 - 02/24/11 06:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alright. Minor fluctuations in CSF are normal and not dangerous. Moderate fluctuations are not dangerous per se and should reduce by themselves, but tend to cause monumental headaches which you would have noticed; no muscle tensions, no migration of ribs, no dizziness without an accompanying huge motherfucking awesome incredible headache. Large fluctuations cause unconsciousness, coma and ultimately death.
None of the symptoms you describe seem to bear any relation to CSF pressure fluctuations. If you're experiencing weird sensations in your chest, muscle cramps/tensions and general discomfort, then quit smoking pot, have regular exercise, eat healthily and evaluate after a few weeks what changes have occurred.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Irishdrunk]
#14018444 - 02/24/11 06:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The CSF has important functions in circulation and nourishment of body tissues.
Fluid Exchange is vital to normal physiology. All the processes of life occur because fluids flow: Through channels, across membranes, and within open spaces. Should the flow of fluids stagnate, all of life becomes diminished and health is compromised. Cerebro-Spinal Fluid (CSF) surrounds our brain and spinal cord. A mere 140 ml of fluid bathes the brain and fills the ventricles (internal cavities of the brain).
This Cerebro-Spinal Fluid replenishes itself 3-4 times each day. Once thought only to provide buoyancy, CSF has now been discovered to provide important nutrient functions. Not only are essential substances made available, but harmful substances are cleared away. CSF establishes a stable and specialized fluid environment for nerve cells.
There are no lymphatic vessels within the Central Nervous System. The brain and spinal cord are instead cleaned by the rapid creation and absorption of the Cerebro-Spinal Fluid. This circulation of CSF was once thought be a closed system. To speak of movement of CSF outside of the brain into the periphery was considered heresy. Recent studies, however, now reveal that CSF is in direct communication with the lymphatic system of the rest of the body.
And some lymph nodes are located on the back of the neck....which would cause sore tightness at that location. And it says yes, CSF is very important.
Hm okay, so either way my brain should notice if it doesnt have enough and replenish it either way. That would make more sense, because it seems like the CSF is a defense mechanism from to much of this system being "on" in a spiral.. paradox type thing.
again Im really stoned and its hard to explain. Im guessing then I should not be worried?
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Janamil]
#14018446 - 02/24/11 06:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, you shouldn't be worried. Not about this, in any case.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: koraks]
#14018453 - 02/24/11 06:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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koraks said: Alright. Minor fluctuations in CSF are normal and not dangerous. Moderate fluctuations are not dangerous per se and should reduce by themselves, but tend to cause monumental headaches which you would have noticed; no muscle tensions, no migration of ribs, no dizziness without an accompanying huge motherfucking awesome incredible headache. Large fluctuations cause unconsciousness, coma and ultimately death.
None of the symptoms you describe seem to bear any relation to CSF pressure fluctuations. If you're experiencing weird sensations in your chest, muscle cramps/tensions and general discomfort, then quit smoking pot, have regular exercise, eat healthily and evaluate after a few weeks what changes have occurred.
No the cramps/contractions are not from CSF, it was just a separate question. It also has to do with the fucked up balance. I do get aches, or feelings of tension/floatingness but it seems okay. When I move my head to fast it does hurt though, like a tension headache. This only happens sometimes, Im hoping soon to balance my medication perfectly throughout the day and my body getting use to it should help in that respect.
Also when I say medication, I honestly mean just a few foods/supplements. Mostly fish oil for stability.
Im not taking any weird pharmaceutical shit that's making me crazy, if anyone is wondering. Again, just for a week assume I am not crazy.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Oldgregg]
#14018457 - 02/24/11 06:20 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd suggest going to a specialist for the syndrome. We all love to go to doctors. Doctors make me feel good.
Ask for Xanax and oxys for back pain.
And maybe ask about the problems you're having too, I bet they know exactly how to help you.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Irishdrunk]
#14018460 - 02/24/11 06:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Irishdrunk said: I'd suggest going to a specialist for the syndrome. We all love to go to doctors. Doctors make me feel good.
Ask for Xanax and oxys for back pain.
And maybe ask about the problems you're having too, I bet they know exactly how to help you.
Thats exactly how to get misdiagnosed and get mistreated for your mis diagnoses or even correct diagnoses. Doctors these days really pretend to know more then they actually know, we honestly dont know shit. Especially about mental health.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Janamil]
#14018476 - 02/24/11 06:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well maybe it's just a bad doctor, ask for a referral to see a specialist. I rarely take the opinion of one doctor. Some of them are really shitty.
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Re: Weird phsyology question [Re: Oldgregg]
#14018479 - 02/24/11 06:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oldgregg said: you have a doctorate?
No but Im very intelligent and have been working on this for two years using controversial means and perspectives doctors could not possibly have on an autistic brain.
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