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Heimia Smoked is great!!!
    #1401725 - 03/22/03 10:14 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

Cant believe people are trying to smoke the harsh crap - Wild Dagga, when there is Heimia Scalifolia. Nice smoke, and after four tokes of a crude extract i was having slight visuals, strange though patterns and an inability to locate the source of sounds.

Its like weed with a psychedelic edge.
A must try!!!


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1401943 - 03/23/03 01:40 AM (21 years, 11 days ago)

I have some sprouting :smile:


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1402355 - 03/23/03 05:38 AM (21 years, 11 days ago)

Great info!!

Lets hear more in this, anyone got some seed to spare?
How about some good pics of it, sounds like a really good ethno to me!!!! :tongue: :blush: 


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: bluelou]
    #1402375 - 03/23/03 05:47 AM (21 years, 11 days ago)

on erowid the re are lots of Heimia pics.
btw I never heard of this plant till now, good info!

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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1403048 - 03/23/03 10:21 AM (21 years, 11 days ago)

The SA website mentions that dried material is useless. Your experience differs?

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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1404474 - 03/23/03 08:16 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

haha ! sinicuichi=sun opener...now i understand, blue meannie !!! hahaha :laugh:

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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1407754 - 03/25/03 05:07 AM (21 years, 9 days ago)

where'd you get crude extract of heimia?


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1416073 - 03/28/03 06:07 PM (21 years, 5 days ago)

Firstly - I dont see how the discussion of the bioassay of an ethnobotanical plant is off topic!
My experiences are in line with the description available on erowid in that the original process as described of picking fresh leaves and leaving these in water in the sun produced fairly poor results.
Dried leaves smoked through a pipe provided a definate but mild affect.
My extraction was very crude - the leaves and flowers were boiled down for about five hours into a greasy pulp. This was dried under a grill and produced a caky black substance which was smoked.
Seeds are difficult to germinate due to their size, so obtaining seedlings is probably better, and i cut these back when placing in the garden. Fairly hardy plants in general.


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1418685 - 03/30/03 05:48 PM (21 years, 3 days ago)

there is an experience report on erowid in which the author describes this process:

boiling 10 grams of dried leaves in a pot with water until all the water has evaporated. Then, he dumps the leaves, and he scrapes the remaining solid from the bottom of the pot. Then he comments that "1/16th" of this remaining gunk is a good dose.

In your experience, smoking this remaining gunk produces only a mild effect? What about just ingesting it orally.. please share


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #1418810 - 03/30/03 07:02 PM (21 years, 3 days ago)

How does one go about getting seeds? Is this plant legal?


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Birdman]
    #1418836 - 03/30/03 07:23 PM (21 years, 3 days ago)

Yeap it's legal, get seeds from someone who has them or maybe a ethno supplier/ herb supplier or herb farm type deal.

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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Birdman]
    #1419568 - 03/31/03 09:33 AM (21 years, 3 days ago)

yes, legal



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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Birdman]
    #1419633 - 03/31/03 10:37 AM (21 years, 3 days ago)

yea, This plant sounds awsome to smoke but what are the legal effects and how hard is it to grow in a north american enviroment?

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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Nah]
    #1419649 - 03/31/03 10:47 AM (21 years, 3 days ago)

err wait didnt see the #2 by pages, nm

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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Nah]
    #1419901 - 03/31/03 01:18 PM (21 years, 2 days ago)

well, anyone with some seeds that would like to send em on over I would greatly appreciate it! PM me!


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Birdman]
    #1422395 - 04/02/03 04:35 AM (21 years, 1 day ago)

Available from various ethnobotany suppliers.
Sorry - i wouldnt say mild effects from the extract.


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1422692 - 04/02/03 09:00 AM (21 years, 1 day ago)

This is a bit off topic but since a few people mentioned it...
I have Heimia salicifolia seeds I can trade so you can contatct me.

Now on topic - I've tried the traditional tea method and smoking dry leaves with no results, I'll try extracting when I get more leaves - 10g is a lot.

But how do you smoke the scrap? On tabacco or just like that on foil or something?


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: DELUDE]
    #1424264 - 04/02/03 07:53 PM (21 years, 17 hours ago)

dried and packed in a cone


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1426536 - 04/03/03 02:40 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

has anyone tried ingesting the extract without smoking it?


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1432025 - 04/05/03 06:25 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I just ordered some seeds from BBB.

This will be my new project for this year.


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1439724 - 04/08/03 02:49 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

How many grams of leaf did you use to make the extract? Was it dry or fresh?

How much of this extract did you smoke in the four hits you took?

When you say it's like weed with a psychedelic edge, how is it like weed?

Does it make you stupid?

Did it have any affects on memory/recall that you noticed?


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1445769 - 04/10/03 05:16 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I used nine large branches of leaves.
Clear-headed stone dfeeling - like weed, but less relaxing and less mind fogging.


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1448024 - 04/10/03 08:29 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Nine large branches of leaves was only enough for four hits?


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1492437 - 04/25/03 08:57 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Only because i boiled it down so much. im not sure on the dosage - leaves alone id say are about 5 or 6 times less active than the same quantity of bud.
WHen dried the leaves seem to lose potency with time and become less affective. the extract doesnt seem to have this issue.


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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1492503 - 04/25/03 09:19 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

So is Heimia the same herb as Sinicuichi?  I just smoked a bowl of Sinicuichi last night and got a very nice "clear head" from it.  Was very pleasant and easy to concentrate/think in.  I haven't tried brewing it in a tea yet...but I'm already interested in trying to make it into a hash.

Sorry if this question is "newbie"...but I just wanted to clarify if you guys are discussing the same herb or not.  :smile:

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Re: Heimia Smoked is great!!! [Re: Boppity604]
    #1493811 - 04/25/03 03:51 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

yea they are one in the same.


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