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BLUE-ING - Does it mean anything ??
    #14013420 - 02/23/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Greetings everyone !

As many, I've always thought that the blue-ing of psi. mushrooms was indicative of psilocyn/psilocybin content, and the deepest the blue-ing, the highest the psil. content.

After browsing threads around and the FAQ, it seems that this fact is not acertained (also read it could be an enzymatic degradation, and not due to oxydation), but the FAQ is ols, written in 2004...

What does today's knowledge says about it ? Is there any link between the quickness of blue-ing (and how deep the blue is) and the psilocyn content ?

Oxydization ?

Enzymatic degradation ?


Irie !


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Re: BLUE-ING - Does it mean anything ?? [Re: Ozymandihash]
    #14013454 - 02/23/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

An exert from Paul Stamets "Psilocybin Mushrooms Of The World"
http://www.amazon.com/Psilocybin-Mushrooms-World-Identification-Guide/dp/0898158397/ref=sr_1_1?s=gateway&ie=UTF8&qid=1285858997&sr=8-1

Might clear a few things up. Highly recommend this book to those who have an interest in psilocybin producing mushrooms. Very good information and a great field guide.


"Apparently, the blue pigmentation is a result of a phenomenon paralleling the degradation of unstable psilocin (dephosphorylated psilocybin) to presently unknown compounds by enzymes within the mushroom cells. What this means is that when a psilocybe or panaeolus bruises bluish, the color reaction is a co-indicator that psilocin is or was present. Naturally since the blueing phenomenon appears to be a parallel decomposition sequence, the more the mushrooms are bruised the less potent they become


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Re: BLUE-ING - Does it mean anything ?? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14017803 - 02/24/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the tip EM, this book is indeed in my must-buy listing !

Quote:

"Apparently, the blue pigmentation is a result of a phenomenon paralleling the degradation of unstable psilocin (dephosphorylated psilocybin) to presently unknown compounds by enzymes within the mushroom cells. What this means is that when a psilocybe or panaeolus bruises bluish, the color reaction is a co-indicator that psilocin is or was present. Naturally since the blueing phenomenon appears to be a parallel decomposition sequence, the more the mushrooms are bruised the less potent they become




err.. the book having been printed in 1996, I guess this quoted text is about 15 years old...

Is the research & knowledge about that matter still in the "apparently" range ? What about these "unknown compounds" ? Are they still unknown ?

Is there any 21st century work about Psilocybe cubensis chemistry ? Any research and new knowledge gathered since the mid-90s or the only advances are in the field of pharmacology ?

Irie !


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Re: BLUE-ING - Does it mean anything ?? [Re: Ozymandihash]
    #14017944 - 02/24/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Ozymandihash said:
Is there any 21st century work about Psilocybe cubensis chemistry ? Any research and new knowledge gathered since the mid-90s or the only advances are in the field of pharmacology ?
Irie !




Yeah, there've been a few.


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