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wheat bran
    #14012523 - 02/23/11 09:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm havin' some contam probs using wheat bran to supplement my substrate...would using hydrated lime help???...any info appreciated



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Re: wheat bran [Re: mojoganjaman]
    #14012720 - 02/23/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

How long are you sterilizing for and at what PSI?


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Re: wheat bran [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14012880 - 02/23/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've just added it to pasturized wood chips/wood pellets...my PC is a small one...I suppose I should have added the bran before pasturization of the sub????



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Re: wheat bran [Re: mojoganjaman]
    #14012882 - 02/23/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: wheat bran [Re: mojoganjaman]
    #14012912 - 02/23/11 10:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

As I understand it when supplementing with wheat bran or any kind of
bran for that matter you need to sterilize to avoid contaminates.

That is what GGMM says at least.


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Re: wheat bran [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14013104 - 02/23/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Correct. If you use wheat, rice, oat, etc., bran you must add it first and sterilize, not pasteurize.
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Re: wheat bran [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14013113 - 02/23/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

alrighty then...I'll havta wait 'till I kin afford a bigger PC...or forgo the bran...anything I kin supplement straw with when pasteurizing????



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Re: wheat bran [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14013117 - 02/23/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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EvilMushroom666 said:
As I understand it when supplementing with wheat bran or any kind of
bran for that matter you need to sterilize to avoid contaminates.

That is what GGMM says at least.



yes, but I pasteurize my substrate with 5% wheat bran and add high ratio of spawn and it seems work too, probably lucky I donĀ“t know  :rolleyes:


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Re: wheat bran [Re: Toni L]
    #14013123 - 02/23/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've seen wheat and rice bran go rancid after only 18 to 24 hours.  When used, it should be kept sterile until full colonization.
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Re: wheat bran [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14013158 - 02/23/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

sorry a clarification: 5% total dry weight substrate is wheat bran, it is really little. Maybe that's why.


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Re: wheat bran [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14013160 - 02/23/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Since your here RR, got a quick question in regards to wheat bran
supplementing.

I know you have said that making your sawdust substrate to nutritious
can lead to malformed pins, and other problems especially when dealing
with Shiitake 75. What do you find is the correct ratio to use so
your substrate is not overly nutritious.

I think I remember in GGMM it says supplement upto 22%, but it was
not in regards to shiitake.


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Re: wheat bran [Re: mojoganjaman]
    #14013275 - 02/23/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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alrighty then...I'll havta wait 'till I kin afford a bigger PC...or forgo the bran...anything I kin supplement straw with when pasteurizing????



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You can supplement with up to 20% alfalfa like buckeye oysters does here:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13466256#13466256


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Re: wheat bran [Re: themycoman]
    #14016377 - 02/23/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

RR what is the current ratio of Bran/sawdust/gypsum you are currently using? I will be using the shiitake 75 strain, and course oak sawdust without wood chips. Also, the wheat bran I got is a soft wheat bran. Is there a difference?


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