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How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp?
#14009832 - 02/22/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I found this lamp at my home which is about 120cm long (fluorescent lamp)
On the frame: TL2001 28W 220-240V 50Hz
On the bulb: FSL F28 T5/CW 06 10 ROHS
I only see it's 28W, but how many kelvins then? How would I make sure if it's in the right range of color temperature? I want 6500k.
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: Vibration]
#14009845 - 02/22/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I dont know about that man, my bulbs always say 6500k on them...
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14009903 - 02/22/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If it doesnt say anything on it, most likely its in the 3000k-4000k range. Turn it on while its daylight. If the bulb looks orange tinted, it a low kelvin bulb, if its more blue or just white, 6500k or higher. Lumens should be fine, but the spectrum is most likely off.
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: DoDahDay]
#14009969 - 02/22/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's really cool white to my eyes though, but I can't just trust my eyesight on this matter. I'm going to buy lighting in about 10 hours, and I will have to make sure if I'm going to get 2 lamps or just 1 as if I may be owning 1 right type of light already.
One lighting is going to cost 35 EUR for me, so it would be pretty nice if I could use the one I already have. If only I could somehow figure out how many kelvins it is.
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: Vibration]
#14010126 - 02/22/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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pointing out an idea: maybe I could take this lamp to some guy somewhere who could measure the color temperature with some kind of tool.
Is this possible and where/what should I go/look for?
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: Vibration]
#14010152 - 02/22/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dont spend the time on it. Buy the right bulbs. Who knows how long that bulbs has been used for. Could be half dead by now.
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: DoDahDay]
#14010177 - 02/22/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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dude, you can go to walmart and get the bulb you need in a 2 pack for 5 bucks, or you can get a 24" ballist with bulb for $8
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14010279 - 02/22/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: dude, you can go to walmart and get the bulb you need in a 2 pack for 5 bucks, or you can get a 24" ballist with bulb for $8
First I will have to get in America in order to do so.. and that's not what I'm going to do 
I'm in Europe. But I guess I'll have to get 2 of these then. I don't know why they're so expensive here. I'm not going to waste time ordering either.
Thanks.
(In my case I have only one monotub and I figured I'll need to install 2 lights, because my lid doesn't let light through.. so I gotta put them to the sides)
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: Vibration]
#14010355 - 02/22/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ah ok, I'll tell walmart to expand to other countries then :-)
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14010410 - 02/22/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: ah ok, I'll tell walmart to expand to other countries then :-)

http://www.ufcw.org/makingchange/ http://walmartwatch.org/get-the-facts/ http://www.hel-mart.com/links.php
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
#14011415 - 02/23/11 12:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: Javadog]
#14011446 - 02/23/11 01:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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That is about it. At least they have not gotten a single dollar of my money in over a year. I did not realize how big the problem was and how little walmart cares about its employees, its customers, the environment, the communities they are build in, or anything other then making massive profits year after year. The second I realized them for what they are I stopped shopping there.
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? *DELETED* [Re: Vibration]
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: 3n1gm4]
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14011588 - 02/23/11 01:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14011615 - 02/23/11 01:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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as I understand it from charts and converters 50Hz=5000kelvin temp
Mind sharing these charts and converters with us?
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The utility frequency, (power) line frequency (American English) or mains frequency (British English) is the frequency at which alternating current (AC) is transmitted from a power plant to the end-user. In most parts of the world this is 50 Hz, although in the Americas it is typically 60 Hz. Current usage by country or region is given in the list of mains power around the world.
During the development of commercial electric power systems in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, many different frequencies (and voltages) had been used. Large investment in equipment at one frequency made standardization a slow process. However, as of the turn of the 21st century, places that now use the 50 Hz frequency tend to use 220-240 V, and those that now use 60 Hz tend to use 100-120 V. Both frequencies co-exist today (some countries such as Japan use both) with no technical reason to prefer one over the other and no apparent desire for complete worldwide standardization.
Unless specified by the manufacturer to operate on both 50 and 60 Hz, appliances may not operate efficiently or even safely if used on anything other than the intended frequency.
I do not understand how you can tell the Kelvin rating of a floro tube using the 50hz utility frequency as a variable, seeing as entire country's receive there power at 50hz, does that mean all floro lights operating in that geographical area are all 5000K?
I just do not think so.
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
#14011668 - 02/23/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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walmarts got shitty stuff shitty employees but god damnit.
they are always open.
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
#14011688 - 02/23/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14011708 - 02/23/11 02:07 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/6057/F-13T5D.html $3 replacement tube that is 6500k, maybe, make sure it is right length
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: Vibration]
#14011719 - 02/23/11 02:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Vibration said: I found this lamp at my home which is about 120cm long (fluorescent lamp)
On the frame: TL2001 28W 220-240V 50Hz
On the bulb: FSL F28 T5/CW 06 10 ROHS
I only see it's 28W, but how many kelvins then? How would I make sure if it's in the right range of color temperature? I want 6500k.
CW after the T5/ stands for cool white which is between 4500k and 5000k i think
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Re: How do I make sure how many lumens is this lamp? [Re: Vibration]
#14011848 - 02/23/11 03:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: dude, you can go to walmart and get the bulb you need in a 2 pack for 5 bucks, or you can get a 24" ballist with bulb for $8
First I will have to get in America in order to do so.. and that's not what I'm going to do 
I'm in Europe. But I guess I'll have to get 2 of these then. I don't know why they're so expensive here. I'm not going to waste time ordering either.
Thanks.
(In my case I have only one monotub and I figured I'll need to install 2 lights, because my lid doesn't let light through.. so I gotta put them to the sides)
You could probably get them cheaper if you order them from here even with the shipping charges, this is the bulb you need and it is only$3.78 american which is like what? one euro and something? don't know anyway if you didn't already get them look here and see if they will ship to you
http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/6057/F-13T5D.html here is customer service # for international shipping if you want to save money or not at least I tried +001.801.784.0250 customer service 1000bulbs.com
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14012257 - 02/23/11 07:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: as I understand it from charts and converters 50Hz=5000kelvin temp
This is incorrect. Supply current has no bearing on the color temperature of the light output.
To the original poster, contact the manufacturer or find another source. Most CFL lamps will have the color temperature stamped on the base somewhere. RR
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14012464 - 02/23/11 09:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said:
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3n1gm4 said: as I understand it from charts and converters 50Hz=5000kelvin temp
This is incorrect. Supply current has no bearing on the color temperature of the light output.
To the original poster, contact the manufacturer or find another source. Most CFL lamps will have the color temperature stamped on the base somewhere. RR
Yeah, sorry guys, I was wrong about the current but not about the bulb,in his original post he put what was written on the bulb and I looked it up On the bulb:FSL F28 T5/CW 06 10 ROHS
T5 is the type of bulb and the CW stands for cool white which is less than the 6500k he needed. I tried to correct myself but he left before I could. I should have already deleted that post. I found him one that would ship to him for $4 but he hasn't been back and I think he already ordered some that were really expensive. I will try not to post incorrectly, I had been up for almost 48 hours when I wrote that and I knew it was nonsense. Sorry bout that, guess thats what I get for not taking my meds and staying up for two days with no sleep, his bulb isn't what he needs though.
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14012738 - 02/23/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If one can't specifically find 6500K, then cool white is the best choice and will work pretty good. Avoid warm white. RR
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14013812 - 02/23/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you for your help. To be honest, I couldn't make it to the shop today, because it's a red day in calender and they closed the shop too early. I guess it's fortunate then, as I see what you've said.
The one problem though is that when I order from the 1000bulbs, then I will have to wait for another week before I can start the fruiting stage. The colonization has completed in few days ago already. Is it ok if I wait for another 7-11 days in order to get my stuff from this site? In a meanwhile I could hold my tub in a cool room in the basement, right?
And if I'm going to make this order today, then which one should I pick?
You have recommended this and this for me:
http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/6057/F-13T5D.html http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/53632/FC23-FEIIS23W64.html
Honestly I would like the second one better as it is much easier to fit it into the closet or somewhere else.
If it's no problem for you, then could you please recommend me something more which I would need to buy in order to get the lightbulbs shining?
Many many thanks.
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: Vibration]
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You can wait till they start popping out pins till you birth them if you want to, you need to wait at least 5 more days anyway if they just fully colonized a few days ago. I have 3 jars that I am birthing friday that are pinning in the jar, that just means you only have a few days to wait after you birth them for mushrooms.
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14013953 - 02/23/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wait I'm not sure what you mean.
My coco coir / vermiculite substrate is fully colonized in my monotub. I thought the right type of light is very important in order to get good pin set. Or you think I should introduce FAE already?
I know what birthing means when we talk about jars, but monotub?
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: Vibration]
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I'm not sure but I thought that you were supposed to consolidate a week for every tek. If you needed to fruit them before your lights got there indirect sunlight works just as well as fluorescent, and even a little direct sunlight a day wont hurt.
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: Vibration]
#14014360 - 02/23/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: You can wait till they start popping out pins till you birth them if you want to, you need to wait at least 5 more days anyway if they just fully colonized a few days ago. I have 3 jars that I am birthing friday that are pinning in the jar, that just means you only have a few days to wait after you birth them for mushrooms.
He's doing a monotub, not the pf tek. He doesn't need to consolidate
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Vibration said: Wait I'm not sure what you mean.
My coco coir / vermiculite substrate is fully colonized in my monotub. I thought the right type of light is very important in order to get good pin set. Or you think I should introduce FAE already?
I know what birthing means when we talk about jars, but monotub?
You don't birth a monotub, I think he's thinking of pf tek jars. whenever I let a colonized monotub sit too long past colonization a few weird looking shrooms come up and it doesn't form a very nice pinset. It usually gets better once it has light shining on it, but the first flush yields are usually low. If I harvest and dunk, the second flush onward is usually normal. That is kind of a long time to wait, could you supplement it with your original light or some ambient light till the bulb arrives?
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: SeniorCoolo]
#14014556 - 02/23/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's the problem. I don't have the right light and the sun is too low. Also I need to keep the tub in the closet.
I've heard that if I start the fruiting stage with a wrong/poor light, then there will be poor pin set.
I don't want to do anything wrong
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14015216 - 02/23/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: If one can't specifically find 6500K, then cool white is the best choice and will work pretty good. Avoid warm white. RR
RR said that the light you have would work, just not as good as 6500k ones.The one you have has a CW on it, that stands for cool white, it is like 4700k or somewhere around there. You could just use the one you have till you get the 6500k bulbs.
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Re: How do I make sure how many kelvins is this lamp? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14015315 - 02/23/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, I guess.. but I will need 2 lamps, because the lid is lightproof and I'll have to put them to the sides. I'm afraid to get "not so good" pin set when I introduce "no optimal" light and only from one side.
But look, I've just made a new thread with a picture of the colonized/colonizing substrate as this thread is not getting much attention anymore. I need to get some opinions from different people as fast as possible, so I could make a move already.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14015023
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