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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: Envix]
    #14004494 - 02/21/11 10:42 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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Why is accepting nothingness so hard?




it's not


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14004568 - 02/21/11 10:54 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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Its beyond miraculous that we humans exist, kinda sad what we tend to do with the gift.




like worshiping fake ideas and putting faith behind false hopes -.-


life should be lived out as it was meant to be. Peace and love between everyone. Food for everyone, water, shelter, clothes, education. Imagine doing that around the world for a few generations. Don't you think the human race would be so much more advanced and productive? If everyone can live peacefully, and have happiness you wouldn't need false hopes of a 'better heaven' after you die.





:werd:

There is no hidden meaning behind anything. It all exists ambiguously for the sake of existence.

People are to worried about what there gonna get out of everything and anything, no one gives a shit about the long term, about whats gonna happen after they die. When really thats the most important thing you could work toward.

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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14004576 - 02/21/11 10:55 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

i'm cool with nothingness after death.

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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14004918 - 02/21/11 11:48 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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Why does it have to feel 'bad'? why can't it be the complete opposite? Like a freeing feeling, to know that everything out there isn't under your control (chaos) and everything that you control is under your control (order).. :justdontknow:

Also! A reason to keep going would be to feel good, to find happiness, to find random enjoyment in everything under no penal system.




And then at the end, you just "go to sleep," and that's not even bad. Because I like sleep every night, and thats okay enough. I don't even mind that I'm not doing cool stuff.

Except it might not be quite like that. Some of us, I think, envision our last moments on this planet (and the last experience you ever get to have) dying alone and probably suffering, maybe bleeding,choking, gasping for air, wishing it didn't have to be like this...no, not like this...please...

But it's just like that.

And all you ever said or did or dreamed or loved is gone and you never get to experience any of it. It actually almost like it never even happened or meant anything. To you,at least.

Some people think something like this, and it's not the most appealing idea.


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: Youshouldknowabc]
    #14005169 - 02/22/11 12:43 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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Why do people need assurance that there is something bigger?

Why is this feeling, or belief so important that it dictates life and what we can accomplish??

Is there a bigger feeling (besides death anxiety) that controls the need for assurance?

Am i crazy?

:hmm:





i don't know.

i personally cannot HELP but believe that there would be no reason for life (or anything at all) to exist.

i think accepting nothingness is so hard, because it isn't possible. you can't accept nothingness, when something is.

because something is, PROVES there was a reason to cause it.

how could nothing, become something, then go back to nothing with no chance of becoming something again. it would never of become something in the first place.


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: igwna]
    #14005281 - 02/22/11 01:18 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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i think accepting nothingness is so hard, because it isn't possible. you can't accept nothingness, when something is.

because something is, PROVES there was a reason to cause it.

how could nothing, become something, then go back to nothing with no chance of becoming something again. it would never of become something in the first place.





I think that first paragraph is REALLY interesting.

But the rest is based on false logic.


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #14005306 - 02/22/11 01:27 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

I believe that there's total nothingness after you die, and that's what I WANT.
I don't want to exist forever...that's what makes life awesome, is the fact that in ONE second, it could all be gone for good.

I think nothingness will be very peaceful, because there will be no "you" to observe the nothing. People are too afraid and attached to their egos to accept that they don't get to exist forever. When you think about how big this universe is, and realize the Earth is only one grain of sand in the entire beach...it kinda puts into perspective how meaningless we are to existence. If every human died right now the universe wouldn't flinch.


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: Anthony917]
    #14005329 - 02/22/11 01:33 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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When you think about how big this universe is, and realize the Earth is only one grain of sand in the entire beach...it kinda puts into perspective how meaningless we are to existence. If every human died right now the universe wouldn't flinch.




Some hypothesize that consciousness is a necessary factor for "existence."

If so, there is nothing without us. = significance


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #14005337 - 02/22/11 01:37 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

"We are the way through which the universe experiences itself- Carl"

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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14005359 - 02/22/11 01:45 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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"We are the way through which the universe experiences itself- Carl"




This carl person sounds like a hell of a guy. :awesomenod:


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #14009129 - 02/22/11 06:35 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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CidneyIndole said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
"We are the way through which the universe experiences itself- Carl"




This carl person sounds like a hell of a guy. :awesomenod:




hehe, then you'll probably like this:



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CidneyIndole said:
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theMERRYiguana said:

i think accepting nothingness is so hard, because it isn't possible. you can't accept nothingness, when something is.

because something is, PROVES there was a reason to cause it.

how could nothing, become something, then go back to nothing with no chance of becoming something again. it would never of become something in the first place.





I think that first paragraph is REALLY interesting.

But the rest is based on false logic.




it was just food for thought.

i personally have no trouble accepting "nothingness".. it doesnt bother me at all.

its not a scary thought but its definitely not logical. i cant even pretend to believe it.

not to mention is probably the most boring thing to discuss.


the only thing we can know for sure is that none of us really know what we're talking about :lol:


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: igwna]
    #14009154 - 02/22/11 06:40 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

See now this is the kinda thread that keeps me coming back to the shroomery.

:thumbup:


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: The Vapor]
    #14009189 - 02/22/11 06:48 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

nothingness? what does accepting nothingness even mean. a billion cycles, and births and rebirths going on around you every second and you dont see beauty anywhere? maybe you just need to get outside.

these guys were in the film festival with us, I found the words perfectly chosen and inspiring.




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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: sixxy]
    #14009711 - 02/22/11 08:20 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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nothingness? what does accepting nothingness even mean. a billion cycles, and births and rebirths going on around you every second and you dont see beauty anywhere? maybe you just need to get outside.






this.

:shineon:


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: igwna]
    #14009739 - 02/22/11 08:25 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I find no need to accept nothingness in my life. Meaninglessness, perhaps, but certainly not nothingness.


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: HighFivePsh]
    #14010556 - 02/22/11 10:33 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

Nothingness must be such a depressing way of veiwing the world, I cant imagine the thoughts and veiws that believing in that theory brings.








Thoughts?

:sunny:






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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #14010578 - 02/22/11 10:36 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

yeah,

:emo:

then

:suicide:

then

:onfire:





:hehe: :satansmoking:


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: igwna]
    #14010619 - 02/22/11 10:44 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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I find no need to accept nothingness in my life. Meaninglessness, perhaps, but certainly not nothingness.




This statement does not seem to make sense to me.

It would seem to imply that you either

1- Never really thought about it much (aka young)

2- decided that eternal nothingness is okay (in which case this means you had need to accept it)

3- You follow some set of beliefs that tells you that existence will keep on existing for you regardless.

  B- However, if this is the answer, most of these systems include a "plan" or "design" of some sort, which often eliminates or reduces "meaninglessness"

which is it, I'm curious? (or surprise me)




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theMERRYiguana said:
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CidneyIndole said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
"We are the way through which the universe experiences itself- Carl"




This carl person sounds like a hell of a guy. :awesomenod:




hehe, then you'll probably like this:







I almost feel I should be ashamed I didn't know he said that. Sagan FTW.

The only girl I sent a valentine this year got this:


 

:lol:


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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #14010643 - 02/22/11 10:49 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I figured just putting -Carl would have been enough :grin:

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Re: Why is accepting nothingness so hard? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14010708 - 02/22/11 11:01 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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What a sad view of life to have, not trying to defend the idiocy of religous fundamentalism but I like to think that there is a reason behind existence, If it is truly nothingness then why exist? what be the point?




why does there NEED to be a point?
Life just is, and I have no idea why. The trees, and flowers are alive very much the same way you and I are alive, only difference is we have a consciousness to interpret it all.
You wouldn't argue that when you stomp a spider, the spider then becomes nothing. I think people are just the same...once we're gone, that's it. Just pure nothing.
It's not depressing, I say that's just one more reason to do everything you want while you're here. Might as well enjoy it while it lasts, and when we die, we'll have no idea we're even gone. Back into the dirt to dissolve into infinity.


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