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Offlinehappihourhero
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Contamination?
    #14007522 - 02/22/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)





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Re: Contamination? [Re: happihourhero]
    #14007533 - 02/22/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Fine


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Re: Contamination? [Re: happihourhero]
    #14007558 - 02/22/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Normal mycelium to me...
What did you think it was?


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Re: Contamination? [Re: magnumzero]
    #14007559 - 02/22/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It looks a little gray to me. but then again, this is my cherry jar, i guess you could say.


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Re: Contamination? [Re: happihourhero]
    #14007579 - 02/22/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

it looks like you noc'd that jar up like 4 days ago.. lol you get growth and think its contaminated :laugh:


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Re: Contamination? [Re: siko887]
    #14007587 - 02/22/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

it also looks like you used a lot of vermiculite to BRF in your mixture. Very glittery. And take that damn foil off.


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Re: Contamination? [Re: siko887]
    #14007589 - 02/22/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It always looks like that at first. Don't worry. I thought the same thing my first time.


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Re: Contamination? [Re: siko887]
    #14007598 - 02/22/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I noc'd it last monday :-x


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Re: Contamination? [Re: happihourhero]
    #14007607 - 02/22/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I thought the foil kept out airborne contaminates?


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Re: Contamination? [Re: happihourhero]
    #14007616 - 02/22/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The verm layers keeps out air-borne contaminates.

Also do not move or shift your jars around to much, as this can shift
the verm layer and allow contaminates in.


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Re: Contamination? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14007629 - 02/22/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Any ideas on why it took so long? Not being impatient, just looking to improve. I figure thats a little late for first signs of myc growth. Day 8?


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Re: Contamination? [Re: happihourhero]
    #14007642 - 02/22/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It can take 7-14 days for spore germination.

8 days to germination seems normal, not slow at all.

Growing mushrooms takes time, and requires a lot of patience. Here
is a time line for BRF cakes so you have an idea of how long it will
take you to get to fruits.


Spore germination: 7-14 days
Colonization of substrate: 2-4 weeks
Consolidating cakes: 1 week
Time it takes to start producing first flush: 1 week
Being patient and enjoying the fruits of your labor: Priceless

I would suggest buying a book or two on mycology and reading while you
wait.


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Re: Contamination? [Re: happihourhero]
    #14007674 - 02/22/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I wouldn't call that slow.

Taking that foil off will help to speed things up though.  The foil inhibits gas exchange which the mycelium needs to grow properly.
The purpose of the foil is to keep water out when you are boiling/pressure cooking your jars.

If you're looking to speed the process up, look into making a liquid culture.  Or learn to do agar work.


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Re: Contamination? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14007680 - 02/22/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thats not a bad idea. Any titles in particular I should check for?

And I have another question. I'm doing all my colonizing and noccing in my closet. I have 24 jars total thus far, How long should I wait before re-upping on spores and starting another batch? I dont want to overload myself, but i would like to have a nice cycle. Or an idea of a cycle that i can tweak to my needs.


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Re: Contamination? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14007682 - 02/22/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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EvilMushroom666 said:
It can take 7-14 days for spore germination.

8 days to germination seems normal, not slow at all.

Growing mushrooms takes time, and requires a lot of patience. Here
is a time line for BRF cakes so you have an idea of how long it will
take you to get to fruits.


Spore germination: 7-14 days
Colonization of substrate: 2-4 weeks
Consolidating cakes: 1 week
Time it takes to start producing first flush: 1 week
Being patient and enjoying the fruits of your labor: Priceless


I would suggest buying a book or two on mycology and reading while you
wait.




BINGO :smile: Eating mushies you grew yourself>those you buy from someone any day! It's sooo rewarding to actually know you grew the thing that is making you trip.

OP as stated before, looks fine to me and if you didn't notice, there is a contamination forum for questions such as this that is right under the Mushroom Hunting and Identification subforum.


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Re: Contamination? [Re: brewed4you]
    #14007694 - 02/22/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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brewed4you said:
Yeah I wouldn't call that slow.

Taking that foil off will help to speed things up though.  The foil inhibits gas exchange which the mycelium needs to grow properly.
The purpose of the foil is to keep water out when you are boiling/pressure cooking your jars.

If you're looking to speed the process up, look into making a liquid culture.  Or learn to do agar work.





Is it normal to have a drop or two of water between the foil and my jarlid after PCing?


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Re: Contamination? [Re: happihourhero]
    #14007697 - 02/22/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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brewed4you said:
Yeah I wouldn't call that slow.

Taking that foil off will help to speed things up though.  The foil inhibits gas exchange which the mycelium needs to grow properly.
The purpose of the foil is to keep water out when you are boiling/pressure cooking your jars.

If you're looking to speed the process up, look into making a liquid culture.  Or learn to do agar work.





Is it normal to have a drop or two of water between the foil and my jarlid after PCing?



Yes that's called condensation....


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Re: Contamination? [Re: happihourhero]
    #14007698 - 02/22/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Thats not a bad idea. Any titles in particular I should check for?

How long should I wait before re-upping on spores and starting another batch?




Books I would suggest:
Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms by Paul Stamets
Mycelium Running by Paul Stamets

Those two will get you started

As for re-upping on spores, once you get to fruits you can take spore
prints under sterile conditions and start the cycle again!

Once you have a successful grow under your belt you can theoretically
never buy another syringe.


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Re: Contamination? [Re: freeskierpj]
    #14007747 - 02/22/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the help guys. Still trying to get the hang of all of this. Forums included :-P


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Re: Contamination? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14007766 - 02/22/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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happihourhero said:
Thats not a bad idea. Any titles in particular I should check for?

How long should I wait before re-upping on spores and starting another batch?




Books I would suggest:
Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms by Paul Stamets
Mycelium Running by Paul Stamets

Those two will get you started

As for re-upping on spores, once you get to fruits you can take spore
prints under sterile conditions and start the cycle again!

Once you have a successful grow under your belt you can theoretically
never buy another syringe.




Also The Mushroom Cultivator even though there is some out of date info in it, I have read it through once and there is quite a lot of good information in there too :smile: And yea I'm hoping my prints/LC clones come out sterile (even though I have prints from other members now) but either way once you get spores from a successful grow you will never have to buy a syringe again (unless you want sterile syringes haha)

A good method for this to make sure it's sterile if you are only doing it for yourself is to take a jar that is big enough to fit the cap in it, poke one hole in the lid and cover it with some micropore tape to prevent contams, (in a sterile environment/glovebox) put the cap in the jar and let the spores fall onto the bottom of the jar. Again in a sterile environment take the cap out an now you can sterilize a syringe using Shea's easy syringe sterilization method and squirt that water into the jar so there you have a spore solution. You can suck this up into the syringe and there you have it, sterile spore syringe :smile:


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