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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14007232 - 02/22/11 12:37 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

well, she drinks beer to get drunk when she hangs out with her friends about every two weeks. and it's every day she's with them. it'll be 3-4 days in a row. and she smokes pot only when she drinks, same with cigarrettes. I'd rather her smoke pot than those too.
I don't want to keep her from getting high, or w.e. but I don't want her to always need it. I care for her beyond belief, so Im just concerned for her more than she is for herself ._.

I just need to change my state of mind slightly. what I want from this is to understand, and be educated so I'm not just like, "durr drugz r bad" I love her, so I'll do what I can within my beliefs that will help us. (meaning I'm probably not going to try e)

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: link1490]
    #14007253 - 02/22/11 12:40 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

Then probably the best advice is not to be her parent but her friend.
You cannot tell her not to do something because you do not think its good. If its a deal breaker then it is, but she should not have to change to conform to your standards.

Maybe talk it over with her, and see where you both stand.


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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: link1490]
    #14007256 - 02/22/11 12:41 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I dont think you should try e but I think maybe a little mushrooms would alter your perception a bit. bring up the idea to her and see what she says. At least you could understand where she's coming from and who knows, you might like it. Talk to her when she's on mushrooms and encourage a heartfelt dialogue.

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: link1490]
    #14007266 - 02/22/11 12:42 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

Doing ecstasy three times a month? people down here do it way more than 3 times a week. They're just fine.

You are nobody to really tell her what to put in her body. You either have to accept this or move on, I'm surprised she hasn't left you because you are trying to control her drug use. Mushrooms are a soft drug, ecstasy is whatever..not too bad unless you're doing it daily without taking your vitamins and shit.

Also, are you drinking? because I'm certain you can't die from taking mushrooms, smoking a lot of pot, but you can die if you do a lot of ecstasy.


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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Moronicus]
    #14007300 - 02/22/11 12:47 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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Doing ecstasy three times a month? people down here do it way more than 3 times a week. They're just fine.

You are nobody to really tell her what to put in her body. You either have to accept this or move on, I'm surprised she hasn't left you because you are trying to control her drug use. Mushrooms are a soft drug, ecstasy is whatever..not too bad unless you're doing it daily without taking your vitamins and shit.

Also, are you drinking? because I'm certain you can't die from taking mushrooms, smoking a lot of pot, but you can die if you do a lot of ecstasy.




Everything good except the last sentence. The known lethal dose for MDMA is WAY more than anything anyone in their right mind would take.


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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14007315 - 02/22/11 12:49 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

OK link.  I think, judging from waht you've told us, that you should just end this relationsihp in a nice respsectful manner.  Clearly she wants to do drugs and get fucked up, and obviously its not to your liking.  Trying to change her will only make her resent you.  Even if she does change, it will be as a result of external factors and she'll have some cognitive dissonance (google it).  Either way, your relationship is going to struggle, HARD.  Is it worth it? probably not.  Go find a new GF w/ coinciding interests

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14007320 - 02/22/11 12:50 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I'm not trying to control her or her drug use. I just don't get it. that's why I came here.

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: link1490]
    #14007324 - 02/22/11 12:50 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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once a month? can you give me details? so I have something legitimate to go by, as opposed to believing the first thing someone tells me.




There is no rule that once a month is the limit. Or any proof or facts that say any more than once a month is bad for you.

BUT TRUST ME, FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I KNOW! Taking MDMA any more than once a month starts to get bad for you. It will start to take its toll.

I've seen tons of other people get burnt out and I've read countless stories on the shroomery.

MODERATION IS KEY! That is the point you need to get across to your girlfriend.

Taking X and mushrooms a couple times a year is fine. Taking them a couple times a month is not okay.

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14007369 - 02/22/11 01:00 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

Like Chris Rock says... if she wants to go to church, and you want to hit the pipe, it's not gonna work.  But two crackheads can stay together forever.

Maybe too much of a sweeping generalization and oversimplification, but clearly she likes to get crazy with her drug use.  Clearly it's uncomfortable for you, and I'm not sure any level of understanding her motivation would make you OK with the frequency/intensity of her use. 

I have my own opinion on that kind of use, but it shouldn't matter.  If it's uncomfortable for YOU and creating issues in your relationship, you need to exit back into friends territory.  Compromising your "values" to try something you're not quite comfortable with isn't going to work, and if your psychedelic purity is that precious to you, you'll resent her as surely as she'd resent you if you forced her to tone it down.

If it's meant to be, you'll find your way back to each other when your values are more in tune.

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: link1490]
    #14007376 - 02/22/11 01:01 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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I'm not trying to control her or her drug use. I just don't get it. that's why I came here.



You don't get it?

SIMPLE: She wants to explore her consciousness and possibly break away from all the mental shackles you are putting on her. :shrug:

Also, if she is away from you for 3-4 days, maybe you are boring her in the relationship or the fact that you don't want to explore your mind as well. This is my last post and if you don't understand, I don't think you ever will.


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Anonymous #6 said:
Yes, it is. The shine stands for his job title, which is Shoe Shiner, the moon stands for the time he comes out to be a nigger, which is best suited for the negroid camouflage.

Edited by Moronicus (02/22/11 01:04 PM)

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Moronicus]
    #14007517 - 02/22/11 01:27 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I had a vaguely similar relationship like this once, except I used drugs myself. My girlfriend at the time made substance use -- pretty much of any sort -- her top priority. It kind of bothered me that she couldn't ever moderate her use, but that was her deal. Until she expressed an interest in doing meth. I told her no way would I stick around for that, period. Not that I even thought meth was evil or anything, I just knew she'd fall hard because of her personality and I didn't want to be there watching it happen. We soon broke up anyway and she went straight for that shit and didn't stop for years. It totally hollowed her out and turned her into a shitshow of a human being.

I'd say bail man. She's inevitably going to do what she wants, and nothing will stop her. She could end up like the girl I mentioned above, and you don't want anything to do with that. Or maybe this is just a phase, seen that plenty of times too. If that's the case you can end it peaceably now, and maybe after she's got her fill you can pick up where you left off without this being an issue. In the meantime I can tell you that her priorities are elsewhere right now and you are effectively powerless to change that.


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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Grok]
    #14007752 - 02/22/11 02:07 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

So, link, the shroomery has given you advice:  embrace it, or leave her


GL with it man, tough spot to be in.

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14007858 - 02/22/11 02:24 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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tymoteusz3 said:
Quote:

Moronicus said:
you can die if you do a lot of ecstasy.



The known lethal dose for MDMA is WAY more than anything anyone in their right mind would take.




"Ecstasy" doesn't always mean MDMA, not by a lot.

A lethal dose of something like PMA is waaaaaaay lower. There are plenty of other things that can be sold in those pills, too.

Marquis reagent can help, but you don't get a known dosage in pills without a fucking GC/MS, heh.

Dehydration can happen if one's out all night dancing, and serotonin syndrome can happen if certain things are mixed.

MDMA being reasonably safe with known purity and dosage does not translate into actual pills being safe.


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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #14007973 - 02/22/11 02:45 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

OP:


http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml --->>MDMA also known as Ecstasy

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/

If you want to look into other chemicals Erowid is an amazing resource. This way you can see experiences, articles, etc to see how you feel and talk to your gf about responsible usage of psychedelics.

Information:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20174577 -THC Prevents MDMA Neurotoxicity in Mice. [PLoS One. 2010] - PubMed result


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Sometimes E is sold in pill form and those can sometimes be piperazines such as BZP. Wiki can you hook you up with that info.

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: memes]
    #14008414 - 02/22/11 04:19 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

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So, link, the shroomery has given you advice:  embrace it, or leave her


GL with it man, tough spot to be in.




That's about it.

You could try talking to her.  Letting her know that you're uncomfortable with it may result in her cutting back a bit until you can educate yourself enough to accept her lifestyle.


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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Cynosure]
    #14009899 - 02/22/11 08:48 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

it's link's gf... i just want to say that 99% of what you guys have said to him is shit that has come straight from my mouth everytime this subject comes up. the e 3 days in a row thing WAS dumb.. and im not even planning on doing e anywhere near as often as i was. i feel like "link", like someone else said, doesnt have any REAL experience with these things, and therefore is just brainwashed by what hes been told his whole life "drugs are bad". i feel like he over worries about this, gets too dramatic over it, and makes it a way bigger deal than it needs to be. Im not planning on doing meth or coke or anything crazy.. i'm the first to feel guilty when im being an irresponsible douche bag. i could see if i was getting wrecked and waking up in my own piss and vomit everyday.. but FUCK! i just get bombed on weekends with my friends in a SAFE place with SAFE people.. having fun. i love "link", i really do. but i obviously get annoyed and frustrated by his looking down on me because of what i'm doing when he has no real experience or place to say it. i'm not going to be controlled by anyone. i'm not. it is what it is. stop acting like im sticking needles in my arm lol you know? i feel if he tried something he'd see its not as big of a deal as hes making it out to be in his mind. idk.:crazy:

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Zombie Stench]
    #14009949 - 02/22/11 08:54 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

You're clearly in two different stages of your lives. 


And WTF, you join a website to put in your $.02 and create the name "zombie stench"?


link - another reason to break it off.  (jkjkjkjkjk)

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Zombie Stench] * 2
    #14009975 - 02/22/11 08:58 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

There is no way this is not a troll thread.

I'm calling fucking bullshit on this whole thing. RP has 8 posts and somehow the girlfriend finds the site and responds?


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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: memes]
    #14009981 - 02/22/11 09:00 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

this is my name on everything.. he told me he was writing about me on some forum or something.. so obv wanted to see what he was saying, as i'm being discussed by randoms on the internet

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Re: girlfriend/drugs advice please. [Re: Zombie Stench]
    #14009987 - 02/22/11 09:01 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

How old are you?


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