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Gaddafi's Libya
#14006907 - 02/22/11 11:38 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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He's blaming hallucinogen's for all his trouble.
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we have very limited information about what's actually happening there.
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Re: Gaddafi's Libya [Re: asiletto]
#14007408 - 02/22/11 01:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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The man was a babbling mess from what I saw.
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fantasticfungus said: He's blaming hallucinogen's for all his trouble.
 where did you hear that from? Can you elaborate?
Last I heard from protesters on democracy now, the opposition in Libia has occupied most of the capital. The government is claimed to be committing atrocities and have hired some mercenaries to bulk it's numbers. Some army persons are resisting orders or abandoning their posts, but many of them are being executed for this. The army is not behaving anything like in Egypt. The information of what is happening is unclear but people have claimed as well that the government is twittering false information to intimidate people from demonstrating.
Nobody can be sure what is actually going on there, but we can only hope for the best.
-------------------- "Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?" "The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything." - Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now. Conquer's Club
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Its like you said gzuf "a babbling mess".
He was giving an interview for TV ScavengerType... he went on about these people opposing him being cockroaches and rats and all on hallucinogens, it was bizar to see.
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fantasticfungus said: He's blaming hallucinogen's for all his trouble.
I saw that headline on the drudge report.
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I was hoping he would have some elaborate bullshit explanation for it that would at least prompt a laugh. I mean from a guy who has a personal guard of elite hot female soldiers, you'd at least expect some good bullshit.
-------------------- "Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?" "The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything." - Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now. Conquer's Club
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The story is that the protestors and opposition groups are all "outside agitators". Always the same story, whether in the Berkeley student protests, student shootings at Kent State, or the recent unrest in Myanmar challenging their dictatorship: the establishment trys to convince people that some outside force is opposing them and that they therefore need to join together and support the state. (look at Bush's approval ratings before and after 9/11 when people decided they were being attacked by foreign agressors with a strange cultre- that shit works). Hitler did the same thing for an excuse to invade Poland and start WWII with the support of the people- he rallied his nation with stories of treacherous poles, jews, Bolsheviks, toppling radio towers and telegraph/phone lines and sabotaging the economy.
Anyways, Libya now seems to be taking a page from China, the granddaddy of the totalitarian dictatorial states, and trotting out people on the state television who "confess" to being foreign mercenaries paid to agitate and cause trouble (just like they do after domestic troubles and during falun gong round-ups). In this way, Qaddafi is able to position himself as a defender of the people and fighter of foreign enemies, rather than the target of a popular uprising, and provide an excuse for the opposition that doesn't acknowledge any legitimate domestic grievances.
One of the guys they had confessing on state media to being a foreign 'bad guy' was said to have been intoxicated with hallucinogens, according to Libya state media (per a Russia Today or Al Jazera report, forget which one). Apparently they are crazed hallucinating foreign agents causing all the trouble- the loyal people of Libya would never have a problem with anything that goes on in the paradise of the African continent that is Libya. (interestingly, the 'foreign agents' they show on the TV generally seem to have suffered some head trauma recently... surely that couldn't mean the peaceful Libyan state beating people into confessing, could it?)
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Re: Gaddafi's Libya [Re: johnm214]
#14011752 - 02/23/11 02:23 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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One of the guys they had confessing on state media to being a foreign 'bad guy' was said to have been intoxicated with hallucinogens, according to Libya state media (per a Russia Today or Al Jazera report, forget which one). Apparently they are crazed hallucinating foreign agents causing all the trouble- the loyal people of Libya would never have a problem with anything that goes on in the paradise of the African continent that is Libya.
lol yea that's the kind of grade A bullshit I'd been expecting from this guy, it's like he's a psychotic dictator who's literally hired a bunch of comedians to do his public relations.
-------------------- "Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?" "The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything." - Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now. Conquer's Club
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Yeah, I found a snippit from al jazera showing the "hallucinating provocateur", lol
Notice this gentleman seems to have a black eye and some pretty severe facial trauma, swelling. I'm sure that's just an effect of the drugs the foreign agents are giving these guys, right?
Also, i like Qaddafi's speech, lol. He says he was chilling with the protestors in the square and was sad to leave the nice people, but had to get out of the rain. He also calls the media "stray dog broadcasters"... ok?
Around 46 seconds is where the hallucinating foreign agent with the swollen and bruised face is "confessing" on state television:
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Re: Gaddafi's Libya [Re: johnm214]
#14012579 - 02/23/11 09:40 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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When the twats gone (and lots of others like him) maybe the Arab states will be more ready to sell oil to the world and then there can be another economic boom time.
You can see that the common people in these countries are ready for it; they understandably want to benefit from their country’s great fortune having such huge natural wealth under the sands. They aught to be ready to make most of what they’ve been gifted with (while they can) because alternatives to fossil fuels are being worked on right now.
Have a look at ITER http://www.iter.org/ in 40 or 50 years there maybe very little need pumping oil or gas at all?
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wow yea that man has been severely beaten.
-------------------- "Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?" "The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything." - Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now. Conquer's Club
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Gaddafi will be gone any day now, insha'allah.
Or there will be a coup/civil war, which I think and hope the people of Libya will win but honestly, there will be much more bloodshed if it occurs
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I saw on DN! today he announced he would not leave and he would die a martyr, so if Egypt is any indication he's probibly arranging to leave right now.
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Yeah but unlike Mubarak, he may be serious.
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Gadhafi needs to GTFO
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Re: Gaddafi's Libya [Re: I AM SWIM]
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I AM SWIM said: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/gaddafi-ordered-lockerbie_n_827024.html
Thanks, but we have known this for the LAST 20 FUCKING YEARS! (That was not directed towards you.)
Huffington Post, not only a completely irreverent news org. but a slow poke as well.
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Re: Gaddafi's Libya [Re: I AM SWIM]
#14019459 - 02/24/11 11:32 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gastronomicus said Quote:
Gaddafi will be gone any day now, insha'allah.
insha'allah your right Gastronomicus and with as little loss of life as possible.
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Maybe they could hire him to be the new Iraqi Information Minister? Seems like he'd be a natural.
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Re: Gaddafi's Libya [Re: johnm214]
#14025134 - 02/25/11 12:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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johnm214 I remember that spokesperson guy from Iraq, we saw him on TV constantly during the Iraqi regime's downfall, he was funny and ridicules and also a spokesman for Saddam as Saddam's vial regime crumbled under onslaught of overwhelming opposing force, he appeared a joker but WHO knows for sure?
I looked the guy up on the web, his name is Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, apparently hes alive and kicking and living in United Arab Emirates. Good for him... maybe Mohammed Saeed could step in and run Libya when Gaddafi's gone. I bet he would soon reply "fuck off" if asked.
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Yeay, I remember watching him on the news during the invasion. Some of his better comments:
"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
"I triple guarantee you, there are no American soldiers in Baghdad."
"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."
"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"
"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"
"They're coming to surrender or be burned in their tanks."
"No I am not scared, and neither should you be!" "I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have started to commit suicide under the walls of Baghdad. We will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly."
"We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels - We have driven them back."
"They're not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion ... they are trying to sell to the others an illusion."
source: http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/
Seems like Qaddafi could use him!
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Re: Gaddafi's Libya [Re: johnm214]
#14027162 - 02/25/11 07:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."
oh come on they did make good on that one.
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True, they did. Throwing shoes at someone is a great insult to them. To us it's, "srsly who throws a shoe"?
Bush had Street Fighter like reflexes and that grin on his face was classic.
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I cant remember if he ducked or deflected the shoes but they was well aimed missiles, it was funny to see though and if they had both gone outside to have a street fight to sort the matter out... my money would have been on Bush.
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well... nobody is counting for culture...
-------------------- "Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?" "The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything." - Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now. Conquer's Club
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I can't believe how long this has gone on... Maybe he really isn't gonna leave.
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Re: Gaddafi's Libya [Re: Ambrella]
#14084652 - 03/08/11 12:57 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's starting to look like he was serious about the staying to the death thing. This won't bode well.
Thousands of Migrant Workers Stranded at Libyan Borders and Ports as Violent Clashes Spread: Video Report by Anjali Kamat in Benghazi I thought this was an interesting story about those trying to flee somewhat racist violence in the aftermath of what is becoming a military conflict. Basically black Africans are being attacked because a lot of the mercenaries that Qaddafi has hired are from some of the rougher areas of Africa. The people are assuming because of their colour that they are mercenaries and in many liberated towns it is not safe for them to go around. The most interesting part of the piece was that the same African migrant worker who complained that his friend had been killed and that he couldn't go anywhere for fear of death, expressed support for the liberation and democratization of Libya.
-------------------- "Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?" "The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything." - Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now. Conquer's Club
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