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OfflineNarttram
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I think I need advice
    #14006229 - 02/22/11 08:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

So, this might sound like a stupid question to ask, but I would still love to get some input from you guys. It has been a while since my last trip as I had quite a lot to do for the University and didn't feel the desire/need to trip at all, but I was looking forward to a nice trip after the exams when the holidays finally start, which they did this week. Now I know that most of the time you should only trip when you are pretty comfortable with yourself and your life, this is for me, in most areas, the case, especially now with all the university stress falling off of me and being pretty sure that I passed all the exams, most of them pretty good, but also lately in my "personal" or "social" life things have been happening, which I can't do anything about but affect me to the point were it is VERY uncomfortable to think about these things, "even" when sober. This is, as far as I am aware not some deep psychological which the acid might intensify its is just something I do NOT want to think about while tripping (at least not if it will feel like I think it will), again as far as I know it is not like I would be hoping for guidance from the trip. Now this sounds like it would be a rather stupid idea to trip "why dont just wait till you feel better about it" the thing is that there will always be some thing or other which is not perfect, sometimes bigger sometimes smaller things, and there has to be a kind of middle ground between wallowing in self pity and completely blocking out all thoughts of the matter like accepting the imperfection... I am quite sure that this is something were Tripping can help you but on the other hand, even though, I have tripped quite a lot of time on different kinds of psychedelics I know that I do have my problems with "letting go" sometimes and therefore try to only trip in the most favorable circumstances...
I have sufficient amounts of LSD/psilocybe cubensis/DMT and peruvian torch but the only one I feel like I can handle pretty easily all the time (the mescalin) I dont feel like doing
I hope I could explain my situation a bit and it doesn't just come across as confused ramblings and I am looking forward to your advice


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Re: I think I need advice [Re: Narttram]
    #14007336 - 02/22/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Don't try and push these thoughts away. Examine and think about them as much as you can before you trip. Even if you can't come to some kind of conclusion or remedy for the situation it's best to have that sober perspective under your belt. The less you think about it normally the more irrational and intense your anxiety is going to be in the midst of a decent trip.


Sometimes, though, you just have to accept the fact that if something REALLY bothers you, you're going to have to confront it during a trip sooner or later. The worst thing you can do at that point is fight it. Instead just fully immerse yourself in it (whatever "it" is) and see what the trip can teach you about "it". Things might get scary or uncomfortable... but it's only temporary and when it's over with you'll feel relieved.
People who say they learn more from "bad trips" than "good trips" aren't just spewing rhetoric. Those who get scared from psychedelics after a few bad trips tend not to understand that feelings of negativity or even pain are trying to lead you to a wound that wants to be mended.


Also, if you have any hobbies (like playing an instrument or drawing) it helps engage in these things when you get into thought loops and whatnot because of how self-fulfilling they can be. It's very easy to take negative emotions or feelings during a trip and mold them into something positive by expressing yourself creatively.


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Re: I think I need advice [Re: Remix]
    #14008042 - 02/22/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Remix said:
Don't try and push these thoughts away. Examine and think about them as much as you can before you trip. Even if you can't come to some kind of conclusion or remedy for the situation it's best to have that sober perspective under your belt. The less you think about it normally the more irrational and intense your anxiety is going to be in the midst of a decent trip.


Sometimes, though, you just have to accept the fact that if something REALLY bothers you, you're going to have to confront it during a trip sooner or later. The worst thing you can do at that point is fight it. Instead just fully immerse yourself in it (whatever "it" is) and see what the trip can teach you about "it". Things might get scary or uncomfortable... but it's only temporary and when it's over with you'll feel relieved.
People who say they learn more from "bad trips" than "good trips" aren't just spewing rhetoric. Those who get scared from psychedelics after a few bad trips tend not to understand that feelings of negativity or even pain are trying to lead you to a wound that wants to be mended.


Also, if you have any hobbies (like playing an instrument or drawing) it helps engage in these things when you get into thought loops and whatnot because of how self-fulfilling they can be. It's very easy to take negative emotions or feelings during a trip and mold them into something positive by expressing yourself creatively.




That's a great advice.

I've had some bad trips where I've found myself thinking too much about things that are not very nice... either problems I'm going through or situations where I have made the wrong decisions and end up thinking I've fucked up. Anyway, my trip becomes very awkward and I just want it to be over so I can get those thoughts out of my head.

I'm a musician, so I "grab" all those thoughts and write lyrics/poetry... it does the trick as I'm more focused on writing things down than focusing on the issues themselves.


I'd just add that sometimes it's easier to deal with these things when you're with someone else. If you trip alone, you'll have to deal with these thoughts on your own. If you're with someone else, someone close, someone you really trust (and that someone is not tripping), you can turn your trip into some kind of therapy... not to "fix" whatever you feel is going wrong, but to UNDERSTAND it. It's good to get that external input from someone you love who won't necessarily tell you everything's fine, but who will be understanding and willing to give you another point of view.

Love, peace and good vibes! Hope you get over what's bothering you and get peace of mind.


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