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p4kSouL
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Dealing with Vampire people.
#14004415 - 02/21/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I notice that most of my friends arent really friends, but people using me for certain attachments. Some times i just want to break a window, because i totally lost touch with my real personality. Now i have some really good friends, but i also have "friends" that are there and i feel like they are feeding on my energy. Its interesting because supposedly my best friend i know, i started doing meditation and gaining self Independence right when that happened he developed hardcore anxiety and physical has a hard time functioning. Maybe its me, because he seems like he always needs to talk to me like im a drug or something.
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: p4kSouL] 1
#14004450 - 02/21/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What's the difference beetween these vampire and non-vampires? Could it be that the difference is that you are feeding off those you regard as non-vampires? Could your perception simply be an artifact of your desire to "move up" to better social circles, rejecting those more needy for those less needy?
THat was the first thing that occured to me upon reading your post (right after wondering what a vampire person was, lol).
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: johnm214]
#14004489 - 02/21/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well the give an example. My friend keeps telling me, "You know man, i know you want to be cool" or like "Dude your just not cool enough". My whole life i didnt give a rats ass about social circles or that shit, and ive never been a social king or anything i dont give a fuck but its like he likes to reinforce it on me, reinforcing that being socially cool is a universal law or anything. I dont think being happy has ANYTHING to do with social circles.
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: p4kSouL]
#14004506 - 02/21/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Another thing is i know they are being vampiric because the whole conversation is aimed torwards me. Its about me and me changing my behaviors.
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: p4kSouL]
#14004930 - 02/21/11 11:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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p4kSouL said: Well the give an example. My friend keeps telling me, "You know man, i know you want to be cool" or like "Dude your just not cool enough". My whole life i didnt give a rats ass about social circles or that shit, and ive never been a social king or anything i dont give a fuck but its like he likes to reinforce it on me, reinforcing that being socially cool is a universal law or anything. I dont think being happy has ANYTHING to do with social circles.
Have you tried creating boundaries? I hate to see people get walked on. Next time your friend says those things just be like "I don't really care about being cool, and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop making those comments." I've found being stern and straightforward can diffuse these things rather easily.
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: p4kSouL]
#14005156 - 02/22/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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p4kSouL said: Well the give an example. My friend keeps telling me, "You know man, i know you want to be cool" or like "Dude your just not cool enough".
Hard to give much feedback on the relationship or the people, obviously, but this seems pretty stupid. Seems like a thing someone pretty insecure would say; someone who feels so beholden to particular social norms, real or imagined, that he is uncomfortable even being around someone who doesn't conform to them, or is embarresed vicariously for how 'square' they are. I would imagine, as with most things, that this is really his problem.
I would think someone like that wouldn't be much fun to be around, but you know more than us on this, so give it a thinking over. From my experience however; these kinds of people are generally just projecting their own insecurities- they only care because they feel constrained by these norms and awfully worried about how they are being percieved. It might be worth explaining that you don't care about these things to the guy if this persists- maybe directly addressing his insecurity would allow some progress and make him think wtf he's doing, if you can broach it without making him defensive and prone to denial.
Personally I see people respecting confidence much more than any particular conforming behavior. If your a nice guy and are geniuinely confident and happy with yourself, you come off 'cool', much more so than someone who's behavior appears dictated by external forces.
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I dont think being happy has ANYTHING to do with social circles.
But there clearly is a preference for particular social circles, as the discontenment you express reveals you favor particular people. Whatever the metric, some people are better to be around than others- whether its a personal interaction or the person generally being a pain in the ass doesn't really matter.
I happen to think most of our interactions are somewhat "needy"- that it is very true that we feed off our friends and relations. The only difference I would think is the nature of the relationship and the happiness of the parties- if it isn't working than make some changes, if it can't be changed, then consider whether its worth maintaining the relationship.
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14005179 - 02/22/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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p4kSouL said: Well the give an example. My friend keeps telling me, "You know man, i know you want to be cool" or like "Dude your just not cool enough". My whole life i didnt give a rats ass about social circles or that shit, and ive never been a social king or anything i dont give a fuck but its like he likes to reinforce it on me, reinforcing that being socially cool is a universal law or anything. I dont think being happy has ANYTHING to do with social circles.
Have you tried creating boundaries? I hate to see people get walked on. Next time your friend says those things just be like "I don't really care about being cool, and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop making those comments." I've found being stern and straightforward can diffuse these things rather easily.
Haha yeah, i started yelling at him telling him to stop. Yelling at a very loud tone of voice works wonders. I dont think hes intentionally being a vampire, but its society image that put on him, then "cool people" put other people down. But then its like a pyramid, cause they think they are cool but its like flipped because they are actually controled by Ego.
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: johnm214]
#14005201 - 02/22/11 12:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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p4kSouL said: Well the give an example. My friend keeps telling me, "You know man, i know you want to be cool" or like "Dude your just not cool enough".
Hard to give much feedback on the relationship or the people, obviously, but this seems pretty stupid. Seems like a thing someone pretty insecure would say; someone who feels so beholden to particular social norms, real or imagined, that he is uncomfortable even being around someone who doesn't conform to them, or is embarresed vicariously for how 'square' they are. I would imagine, as with most things, that this is really his problem.
I would think someone like that wouldn't be much fun to be around, but you know more than us on this, so give it a thinking over. From my experience however; these kinds of people are generally just projecting their own insecurities- they only care because they feel constrained by these norms and awfully worried about how they are being percieved. It might be worth explaining that you don't care about these things to the guy if this persists- maybe directly addressing his insecurity would allow some progress and make him think wtf he's doing, if you can broach it without making him defensive and prone to denial.
Personally I see people respecting confidence much more than any particular conforming behavior. If your a nice guy and are geniuinely confident and happy with yourself, you come off 'cool', much more so than someone who's behavior appears dictated by external forces.
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I dont think being happy has ANYTHING to do with social circles.
But there clearly is a preference for particular social circles, as the discontenment you express reveals you favor particular people. Whatever the metric, some people are better to be around than others- whether its a personal interaction or the person generally being a pain in the ass doesn't really matter.
I happen to think most of our interactions are somewhat "needy"- that it is very true that we feed off our friends and relations. The only difference I would think is the nature of the relationship and the happiness of the parties- if it isn't working than make some changes, if it can't be changed, then consider whether its worth maintaining the relationship.
Yeah my friend is insecure as hell, he seemed to come out of his shell after HS. Blames his problems on his IBS, but i see it stemming more deeper and emotionally. its just annoying that i get a call from my friend and the whole fucking conversation was aimed towards me doing something to make him happy. All respect to that though cause i used to be the same way with a ex GF of mine, i molded her into my perfect person. I created a photograph in my head how our relationship was suppose to be. That went well
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: p4kSouL]
#14005276 - 02/22/11 01:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I dont think hes intentionally being a vampire, but its society image that put on him, then "cool people" put other people down.
No, that's just him. He may or may not be intending to do what he does, understanding how his confidence and security is affected by his behavior re: your coolness and his expressions of disaproval, but the problem is his own insecurity rather than society.
While it may be so that these norms he understands are derived from objective properties of society, that he feels the need to conform to these norms, is concerened about whether or not he does, and is concerned whether or not others do, is a result o fhis own psyche, not society. Further, that he not only feels the need to conform to particular norms but feels some need to identify others who are no so-conforming and express his disaproval of such, is once more, a result of his own insecurity and neediness.
Society may where he's getting these ideas from, but the vulnerability and emotional vulnerability that he seems to address through identification of those inferior to him on his deduced scale of coolness- that is all his own complex and not society's.
I may see someone wearing particular clothes for example, but the feelings of approval of their choice of clothing come from me, and my need to dress similarly is also a result of me, not society. I doubt your friend has thought directly about these things, as the usual psychological defenses to objective examination of your self are generally used to diminish those feelings he's allready having: self loathing and that he's unacceptable
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: johnm214]
#14011457 - 02/23/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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turns out I was a vampire myself, in the devil town
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: p4kSouL]
#14011467 - 02/23/11 01:08 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Try vamping them to give them a taste of their own medicine and show them the error in their ways. that or cut them outta your life.
These people will never learn.
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Yeah it seems the only reason im being vamped is because im letting them do it. its funny when i disconnect there vamping source, its like all hell breaks loose.
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: p4kSouL]
#14011670 - 02/23/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I really get a fuck ton of pleasure disconnecting Vampire sources
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: p4kSouL]
#14011685 - 02/23/11 01:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yessir.
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MisterMuscaria said: These people will never learn.
Some don't; I prefer to think that redemption (in a metaphorical sense) is possible for those who come to see that there are better ways than vampirism to receive energy.
Anyway, other posters have said it: cut 'em outta yer life or help show them that what goes around, comes around.
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Its funny because i feel like ive been vamped so much growing up and now i disconnect it people dont seem to have that same power anymore. I hear indications that people are experience more charged emotions these days, probably because people are getting individual power back. Obviously
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Re: Dealing with Vampire people. [Re: p4kSouL]
#14017114 - 02/23/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Most "vamps" should be more correctly called "sponges." I say this because they either don't know they are doing it, aren't doing it on purpose, or most likely both. Vampire should only be used to describe people who are deliberately doing it. And a high percentage of people who deliberately do it also have a strong natural ability to do so. Dealing with Sponges and dealing with Vampires are two different things.
Unless you have a great deal of natural ability yourself I recommend avoiding physical proximity to vampires. Also, directly confront them and ask them to target others if you wish to maintane a relationship.
We could get into a discussion of blocking sponges if you would like.
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I actually confronted someone a few days ago about their vampirism and they were completely oblivious and didnt realize they were doing it.
I didnt know about "sponges" at the time but now it all makes perfect sense.
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Physical distance is the only real protection for the average person from a vampire.
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I understand that but what do you do about sponges?
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assuming you have little to no natural ability to manipulate energy yourself I would say find your self a nice sized and good quality tiger's eye and keep it with you. Fondle it frequently like when your watching tv or something. That is the easiest solution to sponges I can think of. Or help them learn to control it through taking energy from the earth.
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Im actually alright with energy (I wouldnt say Im the best) but I can draw energy from the earth, the sun or even vamp it off of other people.
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then you should be able to stop sponges from passively taking yours. try various things. Think "circle casting" and experiment. or just suck back what they take.
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