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2ndChancesRDivine
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: migraineur]
#13999791 - 02/21/11 07:26 AM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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migraineur said: He's not forcing anyone to buy them and Shrooms are relatively harmless. Better for someone to take shrooms than something like meth or coke or heroin. There are plenty of legal things that do more damage.
I agree, that shrooms are no where near as damaging as meth or cocaine (especially crack) is to a community. I still feel that this is a moral dilemma that he needs to work out on his own, as each of our human experiences is different and unique. I do not feel that this is a decision that should be based on asking a question on a forum and doing what the general consensus dictates. There can be unintended consequences as a result of his decisions. He needs to be aware of that. Also, remember that a mushroom grow doesn't tell on itself... The more people that buy from his friend, the more people who, if they get caught, are going to point fingers. Those fingers could lead straight back to him, even if he trusts his friend. Fight or flight responses are very strong when being faced with prison terms.
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esquaredx



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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: Doc_T]
#14000007 - 02/21/11 08:49 AM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Doc_T said: Prison.
Not that fun I hear. Just eat em...
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HarryL
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: esquaredx]
#14000101 - 02/21/11 09:18 AM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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I am personally against selling mushrooms but also feel it's not my place to judge others. I see mushrooms as a gift, and dispite what the government says, not a drug. But I do not grow them, but hunt them.
What if you were to charge just enough to cover your expenses? Figure out how much you spend in supplies, electricity, your time, then set a goal to recoup the costs? Could be sort of a co-op!
Really,'I would also consider the liabilities... Someone whacked on your fruits, kills themselves or someone else... Cops, prison, being sued.... Just thinking it would cause a bad time for you, and it's just money..... do you need more stress in your life?
Peace
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Shady J
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: Tulaberry]
#14000678 - 02/21/11 11:17 AM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Basically, what you should do in determining if this endeavor is moral or not is ask yourself these questions:
1. Does this compromise anyone's life (including your own)? 2. Will this cause harm unto others? 3. Is it fair to all concerned? 4. Do you believe it is honest? 5. Will this limit or deprive anyone of their individual freedom? 6. And finally, would you want someone else to do the same for/to you?
Ponder these and the answer should become clear, but don't forget to consider the consequences and implications of your actions, as they are just as important.
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SalviNate
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: Shady J]
#14000734 - 02/21/11 11:26 AM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Hustle that shit
we need you out there
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nicechrisman
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: SalviNate]
#14000774 - 02/21/11 11:34 AM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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when I have sold psychedelics in the past, I always tried to sell them to only good friends and for prices that they would be able to make a profit from too.
I don't think it's wrong to sell them. I cost me a fair amount of money to get set up for growing, plus legal risks of growing. I think I deserve something in return. Of course, if friends wanna trip with me I ain't gonna charge them for it.
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indica


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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: SalviNate]
#14001187 - 02/21/11 12:50 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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nigga gotta earn a loaf
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enesi
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: indica]
#14001345 - 02/21/11 01:14 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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The buyer doesn't have a problem paying for them, and obviously he isn't expecting a handout since you said he asked to you to sell to him. I say go for it, but don't get greedy.
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Cakk


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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: indica]
#14001384 - 02/21/11 01:21 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Sell an oz for $180-220 then they can go and make $40-100 per oz win win situation.
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Psilocital Inebria
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: Cakk]
#14001432 - 02/21/11 01:27 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Cakk said: Sell an oz for $180-220 then they can go and make $40-100 per oz win win situation.
hmmm really seems a bit high there, maybe its just me.
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nicechrisman
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: Cakk]
#14001445 - 02/21/11 01:29 PM (13 years, 12 days ago) |
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Cakk said: Sell an oz for $180-220 then they can go and make $40-100 per oz win win situation.
people around here would laugh their asses off if I tried to charge that much. $80-$100 is good around here.
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Maharishi_2_U
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: indica]
#14001499 - 02/21/11 01:36 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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nicechrisman said: when I have sold psychedelics in the past, I always tried to sell them to only good friends and for prices that they would be able to make a profit from too.
I don't think it's wrong to sell them. I cost me a fair amount of money to get set up for growing, plus legal risks of growing. I think I deserve something in return. Of course, if friends wanna trip with me I ain't gonna charge them for it.

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xk3m_indica said: nigga gotta earn a loaf 
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Cakk


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Yea maybe it is it also depends if they are going to redeal it or eat it themselves.
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Scudreloaded
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: Cakk]
#14001712 - 02/21/11 02:07 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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just be careful whenever i delt, well life got fairly crazy.. possibly be prepared for some levels of paranoia. but this can be fixed just by being smart.. and dont let anyone know you grow them....ANYONE morally i think these things should be avalible to everyone. i mean if a person want to do it they will anyways. your just gunna make some money. it wont pay for ur bills. it can..but thats alotta hustlin..now making it pay for itself and massive partying is very doable.. Doc_T brought up a great point though. prison... it sucks there i guess..but since ur already taking the risk by growing..selling them down the chain like ur planing can cause some heads to turn... you may trust him. but what kind of crazy people will he be selling to? you have to be very very carefull
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joemolloy
DMT is Bullshit


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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: Scudreloaded]
#14001759 - 02/21/11 02:14 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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Yeah, I'd never sell drugs and if I did, I'd never sell psychedelics. People lose their shit, get arrested, and the trail leads back to you.
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masterharf
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: joemolloy] 1
#14001831 - 02/21/11 02:22 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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one time i gave an eighth to a kid for a donation and he shorted me $10 in his donation. i made him feel really bad but still gave him the magical supplies. well he ended up calling me while he was peaking stuck in a massive suicidal thought loop and attempting to apologize for shorting me. dont guilt trip your customers or give product to people who are unfit, which its kinda hard to tell who is going to snap.
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Azure Essence


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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: masterharf]
#14001955 - 02/21/11 02:41 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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Guys, where did you first get most of the wonderful drugs you tried?
Fuckin dealers. Dont knock them. Someone's gotta do it. Physical money still has a place in out metaphysical universe. After enlightenment, we still must chop wood and carry the water. You're merely trading services and energy.
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drr

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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: Azure Essence]
#14001974 - 02/21/11 02:44 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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You shouldnt have any moral issues with selling your mushrooms unless you aren't giving people a great deal.
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joemolloy
DMT is Bullshit


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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: drr]
#14002125 - 02/21/11 03:15 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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drr said: You shouldnt have any moral issues with selling your mushrooms unless you aren't giving people a great deal.
True words.
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claytonsemple
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Re: Moral issues with selling Psychedelics [Re: joemolloy]
#14003595 - 02/21/11 07:56 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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If u can think up a bullet proof plan. Go for it
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