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noticeofeviction said: You know, I've always wanted to learn guitar. How hard is it to teach yourself how to play using the resources of the internet? Or do you pretty much just need to take lessons and shit?
if you have a nice , PATIENT, affordable teacher its better to learn from someone, but intewebz is good too, both is best lerning from someone and praticeing and fucking around on your own
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Re: Got my first guitar! [Re: hidenseek]
#14093465 - 03/09/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I will agree to a point about the quality of guitars, but it comes down to the player in all honest respects.
People who suck shit at playing will always use that excuse, "oh well it's cause it isnt my les gibson peevee paul mystic 3000 XRL fruitloop with a mahogony interior... that's why I cant play this lick very well on your guitar."
When people ask me what kind of guitar I have(meaning brand, not acoustic or electric), it's an immediate sign they dont know shit about music(or enough to warrent me talking with them), and are only into brand names. These are the same idiots mind you who have to have the iPhone4 2 months after they got their iPhone3.
Beethoven could write a symphony on 12 tin cans. If you need some special kind of guitar just to play, you are not a musician. You're a monkey who had memorized a sequence.
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I'd ask you what kind of guitar you'd have 
You'd probably be wrong to make the assumption that I don't know shit though.
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Re: Got my first guitar! [Re: twighead]
#14093508 - 03/09/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Then I'd really wonder why the fuck you would want to talk about names painted on wood and not Diatonic Substitutions and Harmonic intervals or something that actually matters
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OH yeah, totally.
I said all of that about expensive guitars and I don't even own one, not really. I grew up on <$400 guitars. I of course have had my hands on some really nice ones and you can really tell the difference.
There is such thing as a guitar that is unplayable. Setup is important even on a piece of shit.
As for the 'what kind of guitar do you have' thing Well I dont know sometimes I ask that because I want to get an idea of the person's style, what they like to play, that is all really. And of course if somebody has a really sweet guitar then I get the idea that they take it really seriously. Its not a bad thing to have a cheapo guitar though. Mine is.
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Yeah I agree on that.
I've been playing a 100$ acoustic for years, and still prefer it over my friend's more expensive ones. It even just sounds better and I cant explain why
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twighead
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Ho solo discutere di musica in linguaggi della musica
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Re: Got my first guitar! [Re: twighead]
#14093568 - 03/09/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So you'd stop speaking italian and actually play, or keep insisting italians invented music?
I kid I kid :P
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Re: Got my first guitar! [Re: drr]
#14093571 - 03/09/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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And yeah I agree - I usually ask people to get a feel for their style.
Hardware is not unimportant 
Especially if you mainly play genres that rely on heavy distortion - shitty guitars sound like fucking SHIT through a good amp with blazing distortion.
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Azure Essence said: I will agree to a point about the quality of guitars, but it comes down to the player in all honest respects.
People who suck shit at playing will always use that excuse, "oh well it's cause it isnt my les gibson peevee paul mystic 3000 XRL fruitloop with a mahogony interior... that's why I cant play this lick very well on your guitar."
When people ask me what kind of guitar I have(meaning brand, not acoustic or electric), it's an immediate sign they dont know shit about music(or enough to warrent me talking with them), and are only into brand names. These are the same idiots mind you who have to have the iPhone4 2 months after they got their iPhone3.
Beethoven could write a symphony on 12 tin cans. If you need some special kind of guitar just to play, you are not a musician. You're a monkey who had memorized a sequence.
i think your being mean
maybe people are just curious what kid of guitar you have,
like in skateborading one might ask what deck you have
or in construction one might ask what drill you have
its called conversation
and i always like the feel of MY guitars jus cause im used to them, cheap or expensive, other peoples guitars feel alien to me
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Re: Got my first guitar! [Re: hidenseek]
#14093580 - 03/09/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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OK ok, I came off as rude.
If it comes up I dont mind talking about it, but if it's what we're going to talk about instead of actual music, that's a little stupid.
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Re: Got my first guitar! [Re: hidenseek]
#14093588 - 03/09/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Has anyone played with MIDI guitars? They can be very fun, but no where near as senitive and responsive as a real one.
Still tho, the fact you can get a decent MIDI controller for under 200 is pretty sick
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twighead
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This thread is about a guy getting his first guitar though 
To most beginners theory talk might as well be in russian its so unintelligible
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OK OK I'm an elitist I'm the worst I know, please still be my friends and we'll talk about anything else
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twighead
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But they sell midi guitars under 200 now? I've been desiring one for quite some time... though working with midi in real time always slightly frustrates me with the damn 30-40ms delays
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Re: Got my first guitar! [Re: twighead]
#14093631 - 03/09/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes they do, and I've heard multiple peopole tell me mine is better than their 2000$ one. different system or sending the signal or something, but it reduces the latency. Also the guitar controller is good because of the voicing... you cant really replicate the guitar voicings on a keyboard.
Look for the YouRock Guitar. It looks like a toy, because it practically is one, but is still one of the best MIDI controllers on the market. I use it exclusively for MIDI, but it has other capabilities
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it does look like a toy.. but its exactly what I'd need.
What kind of material are the strings made of?
I've always wanted to mod an old guitar hero guitar into a little controller just for shits and giggles.
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Re: Got my first guitar! [Re: twighead]
#14093888 - 03/09/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are steel wires where you strum and pluck, but the fretboard itself is like a membrain with raised strings and frets. That way you can take the entire neck off for transportation purposes
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Never tried a midi guitar. But I have played a roland guitar synth (just a pickup mounted next to the bridge on a stratocaster, and a roland hardware device with all the sounds) and it is pretty cool Not exactly new technology though
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Re: Got my first guitar! [Re: drr]
#14095879 - 03/10/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah my uncle has had a strat with a midi pickup since the late 80's - but midi technology has improved pretty drastically in recent years, at least as far as sound quality is concerned.
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