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Rebirtha
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Shit still happens and you have to be prepared. World peace is a good idea, but so is being realistic.
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Re: RON PAUL sets off another MONEY BOMB [Re: Rebirtha]
#14051608 - 03/01/11 10:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not about some Utopian world peace. Explain to me why we must prop up dictators and go to war with countries for profit? That seems to me like it is not in our best interest at all. No that pretty much makes me think the worlds gonna hate us.
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We would be sufficient in defense with a small army and a nation of gun carrying citizens.
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phoxyilluminata
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TheMacDaddyLongLeg said: It's not about some Utopian world peace. Explain to me why we must prop up dictators and go to war with countries for profit? That seems to me like it is not in our best interest at all. No that pretty much makes me think the worlds gonna hate us.
Explain to me why you think anyone with half a brain wouldn't attack the little resource rich anarchist commune across the way for profit?
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what would there be to attack? citizens? really?
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phoxyilluminata
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TheMacDaddyLongLeg said: what would there be to attack? citizens? really?
Yes. Really.
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so your saying that countries are going to literally come over here and break into all our houses and businesses and steal our nice things?
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phoxyilluminata
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TheMacDaddyLongLeg said: so your saying that countries are going to literally come over here and break into all our houses and businesses and steal our nice things?
That's how the world works.
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TheMacDaddyLongLeg said: so your saying that countries are going to literally come over here and break into all our houses and businesses and steal our nice things?
Why not? We do it all the time.
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TheMacDaddyLongLeg said: so your saying that countries are going to literally come over here and break into all our houses and businesses and steal our nice things?
That's how the world works.
and just how would they disarm the public? i don't think anyone in their right mind would invade a country with the gun per capita rates of the US.
a quote from a certain japanese general comes to mind...
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Re: RON PAUL sets off another MONEY BOMB [Re: Yrat]
#14055972 - 03/02/11 05:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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phoxyilluminata said:
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TheMacDaddyLongLeg said: so your saying that countries are going to literally come over here and break into all our houses and businesses and steal our nice things?
That's how the world works.
and just how would they disarm the public? i don't think anyone in their right mind would invade a country with the gun per capita rates of the US.
a quote from a certain japanese general comes to mind...
Oh, yeah, because WalMart behemoths on their mobility scooters just terrify the hell out of everyone.
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Re: RON PAUL sets off another MONEY BOMB [Re: TGRR]
#14055985 - 03/02/11 05:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: RON PAUL sets off another MONEY BOMB [Re: TGRR]
#14055997 - 03/02/11 05:41 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd guess most americans with guns don't know how to use them in combat and many of the guns are pea shooters.
Against a real army with sophisticated weaponry I don't think superior numbers would necessarily win the day. I'm sure it would be messy however.
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Re: RON PAUL sets off another MONEY BOMB [Re: Yrat]
#14056219 - 03/02/11 06:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheMacDaddyLongLeg said: so your saying that countries are going to literally come over here and break into all our houses and businesses and steal our nice things?
That's how the world works.
and just how would they disarm the public? i don't think anyone in their right mind would invade a country with the gun per capita rates of the US.
a quote from a certain japanese general comes to mind...
Yes. Because everyone in America who owns a gun knows how to properly utilize a firearm in a combat situation and of course, they would have no problem shooting another human being, let alone multiple hostile targets, right?
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seems to be working for the afghanis. how did the US fare against a civilian force in vietnam again?
what about those farmers who fought off the biggest military force in the world at the time? you know, those colonist guys?
you: government is our savior 
everyone would be defenseless without it!!!!!!
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Re: RON PAUL sets off another MONEY BOMB [Re: Yrat]
#14056309 - 03/02/11 06:39 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yrat said: seems to be working for the afghanis. how did the US fare against a civilian force in vietnam again?
what about those farmers who fought off the biggest military force in the world at the time? you know, those colonist guys?
Colonial American:

Modern American:

Boo! Scary, kids!
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phoxyilluminata
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Re: RON PAUL sets off another MONEY BOMB [Re: Yrat]
#14056315 - 03/02/11 06:41 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yrat said: seems to be working for the afghanis. how did the US fare against a civilian force in vietnam again?
what about those farmers who fought off the biggest military force in the world at the time? you know, those colonist guys?
you: government is our savior 
everyone would be defenseless without it!!!!!! 
Okay. Read what you want, rather than, say, what I actually said. Yeah, you are TOTALLY right. Because all of those colonists guys were nothing but farmers who had never served in that war they had had just a bit before, and they just started off kicking ass and taking names, and weren't at all trained. Same goes for that civilain force in Viet Nam. Unsupported by the military, untrained, just a bunch of everyday farmers who just so happened to have military-grade weapons, military level marksmanship, and access to seemingly bottomless ammunition wells. Yeah.
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so we need government to hold of otherwise rabid world powers just waiting to pounce upon our prosperity.
i'd say that it's not government we need, but rather the military. care to explain why we need government for defense, and not a trained military force (militia)? you seem to be confused about the difference between the two.
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Re: RON PAUL sets off another MONEY BOMB [Re: Yrat]
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Yrat said: so we need government to hold of otherwise rabid world powers just waiting to pounce upon our prosperity.
i'd say that it's not government we need, but rather the military. care to explain why we need government for defense, and not a trained military force (militia)? you seem to be confused about the difference between the two.
You want a military without a civil authority?
That would be amazing.
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Re: RON PAUL sets off another MONEY BOMB [Re: Yrat]
#14056375 - 03/02/11 06:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yrat said: so we need government to hold of otherwise rabid world powers just waiting to pounce upon our prosperity.
i'd say that it's not government we need, but rather the military. care to explain why we need government for defense, and not a trained military force (militia)? you seem to be confused about the difference between the two.
Okay. So, who, pray tell, will train this militia? Arm it? Feed the miltiapeople? Cloth them? Will they provide their own equipment? Will they train themselves? Will they be professional soldiers? Or only called up in times of war? Who will call them up? Who will house them? Who will pay them?
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