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body temp @ 96 and dropping
    #14000444 - 02/21/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

So yesterday at work i started getting crazy body aches and i was TOTALLY lethargic, like zero energy. I was light headed and somewhat dizzy but i didnt think much of it. today i wake up in a sweat and feeling kinda nauseous, i throw my sheets off and i become freezing. i get up and the nausea subsides to where it isnt noticeable just standing there but i just feel "off", body aches are still there.  i get a thermometer and it reads 96 even. About an hour passes and the light headed feeling comes back but now it hits a point of intensity that leaves me thinking "woa" when it happens. very brief feeling, maybe a second, but very weird feeling. way more light headed than dizzy. take my temp again and its 95.8

when would u guys start to get worried?
I read hypothermia can set in at 95 degrees :S
FYI: sitting here, i dont really feel that sick. its a head thing.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
    #14000477 - 02/21/11 10:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

uhh call the doctor bro?


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: astrolope]
    #14000481 - 02/21/11 10:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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uhh call the doctor bro?



closed, no money for hospital either


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: astrolope]
    #14000482 - 02/21/11 10:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would at least call an advice nurse. They will probably recommend you be seen though. Drink hot liquids, turn up your heater, bundle up in the mean time.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
    #14000504 - 02/21/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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So yesterday at work i started getting crazy body aches and i was TOTALLY lethargic, like zero energy. I was light headed and somewhat dizzy but i didnt think much of it. today i wake up in a sweat and feeling kinda nauseous, i throw my sheets off and i become freezing. i get up and the nausea subsides to where it isnt noticeable just standing there but i just feel "off", body aches are still there.  i get a thermometer and it reads 96 even. About an hour passes and the light headed feeling comes back but now it hits a point of intensity that leaves me thinking "woa" when it happens. very brief feeling, maybe a second, but very weird feeling. way more light headed than dizzy. take my temp again and its 95.8


when would u guys start to get worried?
I read hypothermia can set in at 95 degrees :S
FYI: sitting here, i dont really feel that sick. its a head thing.




my cuz went through the same thing and he ended up losing his life. he temp dropped down to 94.6 and was rushed to the hospital. on the way he went into a seizure than a coma. by the time they arrived they had already pronounced him dead.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Dunno]
    #14000520 - 02/21/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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So yesterday at work i started getting crazy body aches and i was TOTALLY lethargic, like zero energy. I was light headed and somewhat dizzy but i didnt think much of it. today i wake up in a sweat and feeling kinda nauseous, i throw my sheets off and i become freezing. i get up and the nausea subsides to where it isnt noticeable just standing there but i just feel "off", body aches are still there.  i get a thermometer and it reads 96 even. About an hour passes and the light headed feeling comes back but now it hits a point of intensity that leaves me thinking "woa" when it happens. very brief feeling, maybe a second, but very weird feeling. way more light headed than dizzy. take my temp again and its 95.8


when would u guys start to get worried?
I read hypothermia can set in at 95 degrees :S
FYI: sitting here, i dont really feel that sick. its a head thing.




my cuz went through the same thing and he ended up losing his life. he temp dropped down to 94.6 and was rushed to the hospital. on the way he went into a seizure than a coma. by the time they arrived they had already pronounced him dead.



uh... seriously? ill monitor my symptoms and temp VERY closely...

just smoked a bowl and my temp went up to 96.1
weed is awesome :smile:


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn] * 2
    #14000537 - 02/21/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: astrolope] * 1
    #14000543 - 02/21/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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maybe take a bath with luke. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?





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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Dunno]
    #14000557 - 02/21/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:ilold:


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Dunno]
    #14000560 - 02/21/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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astrolope said:
maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?



ya water actually sucks body heat OUT, thats why we sweat. But i bet if i did take a hot bath for a little, like a jacuzzi or something, it would help. thanks.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: astrolope]
    #14000570 - 02/21/11 10:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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:ilold:



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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Dunno]
    #14000578 - 02/21/11 10:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I always get cold when I get out of a warm bath.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: nicechrisman]
    #14000585 - 02/21/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i always heat up when i get out of a cold bath.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn] * 1
    #14000709 - 02/21/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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astrolope said:
maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?



ya water actually sucks body heat OUT, thats why we sweat.




If the water is at a higher temperature than your body, then it would raise your body temperature.  You lose heat when you sweat because of the action of evaporation.  Your sweat absorbs heat from your body until it gets warm enough to vaporize, then it takes that energy with it as it escapes into the atmosphere.  If you submerge yourself in water, the heat will want to equalize, so if you are colder than the water, the heat will move from the water to your body.

Here is an analogy for you:  If you take some frozen chicken out of your freezer, and put it in a bowl of water, does the chicken become colder as the water warms up?


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Happy2fly]
    #14000746 - 02/21/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?



ya water actually sucks body heat OUT, thats why we sweat.




If the water is at a higher temperature than your body, then it would raise your body temperature.  You lose heat when you sweat because of the action of evaporation.  Your sweat absorbs heat from your body until it gets warm enough to vaporize, then it takes that energy with it as it escapes into the atmosphere.  If you submerge yourself in water, the heat will want to equalize, so if you are colder than the water, the heat will move from the water to your body.

Here is an analogy for you:  If you take some frozen chicken out of your freezer, and put it in a bowl of water, does the chicken become colder as the water warms up?



he was talking about luke warm water man...
and i even said in that very same post that if i took a hot bath it probably would help.

i was thinking about when i get out, it would be freezing.. bundling up in blankets and radiating my body heat and smoking weed to raise my temp is the way im going.

did u have a point with this post or do u just like to talk?


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Happy2fly]
    #14000792 - 02/21/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I fucking hate hospitals because they charge you 10,000 when you tell them you are sick, and they have to take your fucking blood 4 times and shit. I mySELF have been in situations where I would almost rather die then go to a hospital


but if you temperature is below 97 then you need to go dude, that is not good. I know your temperature can raise up but when it drops like that NOT good. I think bleeding to death people's heart usually stop when their temperature hits 85 man. lord.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #14000812 - 02/21/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Don't you guys wish you had socialised healthcare? :crazy:


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14000816 - 02/21/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I wish we did.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
    #14001055 - 02/21/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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DrugsAreFunn said:
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astrolope said:
maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?



ya water actually sucks body heat OUT, thats why we sweat.




If the water is at a higher temperature than your body, then it would raise your body temperature.  You lose heat when you sweat because of the action of evaporation.  Your sweat absorbs heat from your body until it gets warm enough to vaporize, then it takes that energy with it as it escapes into the atmosphere.  If you submerge yourself in water, the heat will want to equalize, so if you are colder than the water, the heat will move from the water to your body.

Here is an analogy for you:  If you take some frozen chicken out of your freezer, and put it in a bowl of water, does the chicken become colder as the water warms up?



he was talking about luke warm water man...
and i even said in that very same post that if i took a hot bath it probably would help.

i was thinking about when i get out, it would be freezing.. bundling up in blankets and radiating my body heat and smoking weed to raise my temp is the way im going.

did u have a point with this post or do u just like to talk?




I did have a point.  You said that you didn't want to take a bath because it would suck heat from your body and then compared it to the way sweat "actually sucks body heat OUT".  I just wanted to let you know why sweat cools your body but a hot bath would work in the opposite way.  There is no need to get all testy, it wasn't my intention to offend you...


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Happy2fly]
    #14001082 - 02/21/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Happy2fly said:
Quote:

DrugsAreFunn said:
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astrolope said:
maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?



ya water actually sucks body heat OUT, thats why we sweat.




If the water is at a higher temperature than your body, then it would raise your body temperature.  You lose heat when you sweat because of the action of evaporation.  Your sweat absorbs heat from your body until it gets warm enough to vaporize, then it takes that energy with it as it escapes into the atmosphere.  If you submerge yourself in water, the heat will want to equalize, so if you are colder than the water, the heat will move from the water to your body.

Here is an analogy for you:  If you take some frozen chicken out of your freezer, and put it in a bowl of water, does the chicken become colder as the water warms up?




I'm glad someone here has some sense...
Why the fuck would water suck out your body heat? :facepalm:


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14001098 - 02/21/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Don't you guys wish you had socialised healthcare? :crazy:




nope, cause then I'd have to pay for drugsarefunn's fuckin' bill.
personal responsibility. I have health insurance that I pay for, if you don't, then... :shrug:

OP: I would at least call a hospital, they have on call nurses who will tell you what you should do. They'll probably tell you that you need to be seen, but they might have some other helpful advice that you aren't gonna find on the shroomery


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Anthony917]
    #14001135 - 02/21/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Anthony917 said:
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Mad_Larkin said:
Don't you guys wish you had socialised healthcare? :crazy:




nope, cause then I'd have to pay for drugsarefunn's fuckin' bill.
personal responsibility. I have health insurance that I pay for, if you don't, then... :shrug:




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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Anthony917]
    #14001141 - 02/21/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm glad someone here has some sense...
Why the fuck would water suck out your body heat? :facepalm:




Well, "lukewarm" is about the same temperature as your body.  It would very quickly drop below that.  Probably in 5 minutes or so.  At that point, it would suck out your body heat.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: nicechrisman]
    #14001164 - 02/21/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Anthony917 said:
I'm glad someone here has some sense...
Why the fuck would water suck out your body heat? :facepalm:




Well, "lukewarm" is about the same temperature as your body.  It would very quickly drop below that.  Probably in 5 minutes or so.  At that point, it would suck out your body heat.




If it was cold water, yes. Who the hell is cold, then sits in cold water to warm up, though?

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:facepalm::crankey:




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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: BothHands]
    #14001165 - 02/21/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yes, and what about when you get out of the warm water? I'm always freezing my ass off when I get out of a hot bath.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Anthony917]
    #14001191 - 02/21/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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If it was cold water, yes. Who the hell is cold, then sits in cold water to warm up, though?





No, 95F water is definitely not cold.  It's lukewarm.  And it would equalize with your body's heat, removing it from your body.  The term "lukewarm" is what his argument was about.  Don't take a lukewarm bath, take a hot bath.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: BothHands]
    #14001208 - 02/21/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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yes, and what about when you get out of the warm water? I'm always freezing my ass off when I get out of a hot bath.




You FEEL cold, but that feeling doesn't last.
What happens is your body compensates for the lack of heat on the outside by radiating your internal heat outwards. So, the sudden shock on your skin tells your body that it's really really cold, causing your internal heat to move outwards to keep your skin warm.
Although, I don't think this would cause a serious drop in internal body heat. Maybe you could run the shower to heat the room up, or just step out of the tub and immediately dry off & bundle up.
I still think you should call a nurse or something...I wouldn't fuck around with my health.

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Don't take a lukewarm bath, take a hot bath.



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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: BothHands]
    #14001238 - 02/21/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

thank you for expanding upon the original statement. I was saying warm water as you might not want to take too hot of a bath as to shock your system? but maintaining a water temperature of your body or a little bit higher would equalize your internal thermometer. Baths that are too hot aren't very comfortable to soak in any ways.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: BothHands]
    #14001256 - 02/21/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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yes, and what about when you get out of the warm water? I'm always freezing my ass off when I get out of a hot bath.




When you get out of the warm water, water starts evaporating off of your warm wet skin, which cools you down.  You can minimize the amount of heat lost when you get out of the bath by drying off quickly...

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If it was cold water, yes. Who the hell is cold, then sits in cold water to warm up, though?





No, 95F water is definitely not cold.  It's lukewarm.  And it would equalize with your body's heat, removing it from your body.  The term "lukewarm" is what his argument was about.  Don't take a lukewarm bath, take a hot bath.




lukewarm is not defined by a certain temperature.  It's a relative term.  If the RP's body temp is 96F, a 95F bath will suck heat from his body.  If the water is 97F, his body would suck heat from the water...


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Happy2fly]
    #14001279 - 02/21/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Even if it's 97, it'll only stay that way for a very short time.  Maybe 5 minutes until it's 95.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: BothHands]
    #14001286 - 02/21/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

OP hasn't posted in a while. Hope he's not in a coma. :sad:


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: BothHands]
    #14001341 - 02/21/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Even if it's 97, it'll only stay that way for a very short time.  Maybe 5 minutes until it's 95.




The rate that the water temperature changes depends on the geometry of the tub and the air temperature outside of the bath.  If the temperature of the air in the bathroom is at 97F, then the temperature of the bathwater will not change.  If the surface area of the bath is small compared to the volume of the bath, the heat will escape at a slower rate than if the surface area was large compared to the volume.  Not that any of that matters in this case.  I agree with you that the RP would benefit from a hot bath much more than he would from a lukewarm bath.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Happy2fly]
    #14001824 - 02/21/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Happy2fly said:I did have a point.  You said that you didn't want to take a bath because it would suck heat from your body and then compared it to the way sweat "actually sucks body heat OUT".  I just wanted to let you know why sweat cools your body but a hot bath would work in the opposite way.  There is no need to get all testy, it wasn't my intention to offend you...



ur quoting me out of context... we are arguing about nothing... i say in my o.p. that it would.... again wtf is ur point? again he said luke warm!!!!! not hot!!!


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Happy2fly]
    #14001876 - 02/21/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Even if it's 97, it'll only stay that way for a very short time.  Maybe 5 minutes until it's 95.




The rate that the water temperature changes depends on the geometry of the tub and the air temperature outside of the bath.  If the temperature of the air in the bathroom is at 97F, then the temperature of the bathwater will not change.  If the surface area of the bath is small compared to the volume of the bath, the heat will escape at a slower rate than if the surface area was large compared to the volume.  Not that any of that matters in this case.  I agree with you that the RP would benefit from a hot bath much more than he would from a lukewarm bath.




what kind of argument is this?!?
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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Anthony917]
    #14001888 - 02/21/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?



ya water actually sucks body heat OUT, thats why we sweat.




If the water is at a higher temperature than your body, then it would raise your body temperature.  You lose heat when you sweat because of the action of evaporation.  Your sweat absorbs heat from your body until it gets warm enough to vaporize, then it takes that energy with it as it escapes into the atmosphere.  If you submerge yourself in water, the heat will want to equalize, so if you are colder than the water, the heat will move from the water to your body.

Here is an analogy for you:  If you take some frozen chicken out of your freezer, and put it in a bowl of water, does the chicken become colder as the water warms up?




I'm glad someone here has some sense...
Why the fuck would water suck out your body heat? :facepalm:



rofl that is how it works. put yourself in a small amount of 40 degree water while in the fridge(too make sure the outside air isnt a factor) and take the temp of the water in an hour. AMAZING!!! its warmer :o

now if i got in a lukewarm bath, and go look up the definition of a lukewarm then look up the definition of warm, it would not raise my temp at all, and if i satyed in too long and it lost heat it WOULD start sucking heat from me. Thats why people get hypothermia when they are stranded in the ocean.. The water is colder than they are... So after i get out of the bath after not being warmed up whatsoever i come into contact with cold ass air.. the end result being heat lost from my body. Let me say this one more time, i cannot be more clear, i was never talking about a hot bath having this effect just lukewarm one's


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
    #14001907 - 02/21/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My tempurature is usually at 96-98 range, usually on the low side.. 95.8 is pretty low. Maybe your thermometer is not calibrated correctly.. Definitely keep monitoring it, you can always see one of those 24 hour doc in the boxes for 150 bucks. Much cheaper than a hospital.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
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Happy2fly said:I did have a point.  You said that you didn't want to take a bath because it would suck heat from your body and then compared it to the way sweat "actually sucks body heat OUT".  I just wanted to let you know why sweat cools your body but a hot bath would work in the opposite way.  There is no need to get all testy, it wasn't my intention to offend you...



ur quoting me out of context... we are arguing about nothing... i say in my o.p. that it would.... again wtf is ur point? again he said luke warm!!!!! not hot!!!





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maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?



ya water actually sucks body heat OUT, thats why we sweat. But i bet if i did take a hot bath for a little, like a jacuzzi or something, it would help. thanks.




Here is the complete context.  I wasn't trying to argue with you.  I was only explaining the physics behind why sweat cools you down, but a warm bath warms you up.  After reading the post I quoted above, I concluded that you didn't understand the physics of heat transfer, and that you might be interested in learning.  Obviously you are crabby, and do not care...


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Anthony917]
    #14001956 - 02/21/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Don't you guys wish you had socialised healthcare? :crazy:




nope, cause then I'd have to pay for drugsarefunn's fuckin' bill.
personal responsibility. I have health insurance that I pay for, if you don't, then... :shrug:

OP: I would at least call a hospital, they have on call nurses who will tell you what you should do. They'll probably tell you that you need to be seen, but they might have some other helpful advice that you aren't gonna find on the shroomery



what if you are a 26 year old full time student with an internship that comes with 0 benefits whatsoever. what, these people(like myself) don't deserve some support?
Dude i already have college bills and rent/gas/phone etc. i dont have the money to go to the hosp/doc unless it is legitimately life threatening.. im not suggesting lets give everyone in the world a personal doctor, but there are certain areas that are in dire need of reform NOW!
BTW wise ass, i just stayed bundled up and smoked weed and got my temp stabilized at 98.5

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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
    #14001973 - 02/21/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

my temp is the same... you did globalize it!


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
    #14001975 - 02/21/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

big misunderstanding obviously...
of course cold water sucks heat from your body lol
ahh fuck this thread. I hope you go into a coma OP  :sexysmile:
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Don't you guys wish you had socialised healthcare? :crazy:




nope, cause then I'd have to pay for drugsarefunn's fuckin' bill.
personal responsibility. I have health insurance that I pay for, if you don't, then... :shrug:

OP: I would at least call a hospital, they have on call nurses who will tell you what you should do. They'll probably tell you that you need to be seen, but they might have some other helpful advice that you aren't gonna find on the shroomery



what if you are a 26 year old full time student with an internship that comes with 0 benefits whatsoever. what, these people(like myself) don't deserve some support?
Dude i already have college bills and rent/gas/phone etc. i dont have the money to go to the hosp/doc unless it is legitimately life threatening.. im not suggesting lets give everyone in the world a personal doctor, but there are certain areas that are in dire need of reform NOW!
BTW wise ass, i just stayed bundled up and smoked weed and got my temp globalized at 98.5




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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Rebirtha]
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my temp is the same... you did globalize it!




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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Happy2fly]
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Happy2fly said:I did have a point.  You said that you didn't want to take a bath because it would suck heat from your body and then compared it to the way sweat "actually sucks body heat OUT".  I just wanted to let you know why sweat cools your body but a hot bath would work in the opposite way.  There is no need to get all testy, it wasn't my intention to offend you...



ur quoting me out of context... we are arguing about nothing... i say in my o.p. that it would.... again wtf is ur point? again he said luke warm!!!!! not hot!!!





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maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?



ya water actually sucks body heat OUT, thats why we sweat. But i bet if i did take a hot bath for a little, like a jacuzzi or something, it would help. thanks.




Here is the complete context.  I wasn't trying to argue with you.  I was only explaining the physics behind why sweat cools you down, but a warm bath warms you up.  After reading the post I quoted above, I concluded that you didn't understand the physics of heat transfer, and that you might be interested in learning.  Obviously you are crabby, and do not care...



this is the dumbest shit ever dude... you just want to talk.. "the physics behind why sweat cools you down" is 100% irrelevant to this thread... and how can you argue getting into a bath that is no higher than your body temp at the starting point is a good idea. how. (again i was never talking about a warm/hot bath, JUST A LUKEWARM ONE)

and for the record... it isnt the act of evaporation that cools you down you retard monkey.. by this logic when people wipe sweat from their face, it renders it completely useless.. no, it just didnt absorb as much heat as it potentially could have..

when my body temp is at 95.8 i dont think i want to put myself in a situation where i could make it lower.. but that's just me. stabilized @98.5 now with my method, thanks :smile:


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
    #14002040 - 02/21/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

hypothermia... :thumbup:.  It's not something you get very readily without exposure to the weather, so if you have it I would recommend getting that checked out as it can be a sign of a MUCH worse problem such as a tumor or serious infection


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Rebirtha]
    #14002044 - 02/21/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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my temp is the same... you did globalize it!



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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Anthony917]
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maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?



ya water actually sucks body heat OUT, thats why we sweat.




If the water is at a higher temperature than your body, then it would raise your body temperature.  You lose heat when you sweat because of the action of evaporation.  Your sweat absorbs heat from your body until it gets warm enough to vaporize, then it takes that energy with it as it escapes into the atmosphere.  If you submerge yourself in water, the heat will want to equalize, so if you are colder than the water, the heat will move from the water to your body.

Here is an analogy for you:  If you take some frozen chicken out of your freezer, and put it in a bowl of water, does the chicken become colder as the water warms up?




I'm glad someone here has some sense...
Why the fuck would water suck out your body heat? :facepalm:





if the water is warmer than the frozen chicken, no. but this guy would have to take a 99 degree bath, screw that, he would have to take a 105 degree bath to not get the heat sucked out by the colder water. 105 degrees isn't going to last too long in the water, so he will need constant boiling water poured into the tub now and again to maintain a temperature above 98 degrees.

I would have just gone to the hospital. I know it ruins your credit, but is dying better?


as for smoking weed raising your body temperature, you are very lucky. i'm not saying weed should lower your body temperature, but it will make you tired and lower your metabolism, likely lowing your body temperature in the process.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: BothHands]
    #14002057 - 02/21/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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If it was cold water, yes. Who the hell is cold, then sits in cold water to warm up, though?





No, 95F water is definitely not cold.  It's lukewarm.  And it would equalize with your body's heat, removing it from your body.  The term "lukewarm" is what his argument was about.  Don't take a lukewarm bath, take a hot bath.




ok yes a very hot bath then. didn't realize that 95 was only lukewarm, what is scalding hot then? 100 something degrees? i know at 212 water boils so I assumed 95 was already very hot.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: imachavel]
    #14002060 - 02/21/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Add the chicken to the boiling water first. Next wrap up in blankets and smoke weed. Eat hot chicken.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: imachavel]
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I would have just gone to the hospital. I know it ruins your credit, but is dying better?


as for smoking weed raising your body temperature, you are very lucky. i'm not saying weed should lower your body temperature, but it will make you tired and lower your metabolism, likely lowing your body temperature in the process.



nope, learned that in national geographic channel's documentary "High On: Marijuana". First chance i had to test it out in this kind of setting but i already knew it was true, havent u ever taken a huge rip and started pooring sweat?


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
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Even if it's 97, it'll only stay that way for a very short time.  Maybe 5 minutes until it's 95.




The rate that the water temperature changes depends on the geometry of the tub and the air temperature outside of the bath.  If the temperature of the air in the bathroom is at 97F, then the temperature of the bathwater will not change.  If the surface area of the bath is small compared to the volume of the bath, the heat will escape at a slower rate than if the surface area was large compared to the volume.  Not that any of that matters in this case.  I agree with you that the RP would benefit from a hot bath much more than he would from a lukewarm bath.





it actually raises your body temperature? that isn't just a mental phenomena? I guess that is why when I smoke weed I REALLY HATE being outside in super hot weather. I always thought that was because of mental effect marijuana has on the senses. so btw are you alright dude?

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Evaporation actually sucks body heat out, and in fact your air conditioning uses the same principle, but with compressed freon.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: blujay]
    #14002260 - 02/21/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Evaporation actually sucks body heat out, and in fact your air conditioning uses the same principle, but with compressed freon.



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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: imachavel]
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Even if it's 97, it'll only stay that way for a very short time.  Maybe 5 minutes until it's 95.




The rate that the water temperature changes depends on the geometry of the tub and the air temperature outside of the bath.  If the temperature of the air in the bathroom is at 97F, then the temperature of the bathwater will not change.  If the surface area of the bath is small compared to the volume of the bath, the heat will escape at a slower rate than if the surface area was large compared to the volume.  Not that any of that matters in this case.  I agree with you that the RP would benefit from a hot bath much more than he would from a lukewarm bath.





it actually raises your body temperature? that isn't just a mental phenomena? I guess that is why when I smoke weed I REALLY HATE being outside in super hot weather. I always thought that was because of mental effect marijuana has on the senses. so btw are you alright dude?

if I were you I would eat a whole bottle of vitamin c. I'm glad you are ok.



i was feeling better but now my temp dropped back down to ~96 and i got really light headed.. im making an appointment.

and ya, forgot how they explained it, but smoking weed raises your body temp. my stupid dvr erased the special though ><


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If it was cold water, yes. Who the hell is cold, then sits in cold water to warm up, though?





No, 95F water is definitely not cold.  It's lukewarm.  And it would equalize with your body's heat, removing it from your body.  The term "lukewarm" is what his argument was about.  Don't take a lukewarm bath, take a hot bath.




ok yes a very hot bath then. didn't realize that 95 was only lukewarm, what is scalding hot then? 100 something degrees? i know at 212 water boils so I assumed 95 was already very hot.




I would consider a 98.6F bath to be lukewarm, since that is your ideal body temperature.  A hot tub can be set as hot as 110F, and that is very comfortable for many people.  As I said earlier, the term lukewarm does not actually have a defined temperature.  It's not cold, but it's not hot.

The other variable that nobody has mentioned yet is that the body creates it's own heat.  If the RP's room is 70F, and the bath is 90F, his body temperature could still rise during a bath even though heat is being sucked out from the relatively colder water, just because the water is warmer relative to the air...

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ur quoting me out of context... we are arguing about nothing... i say in my o.p. that it would.... again wtf is ur point? again he said luke warm!!!!! not hot!!!





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maybe take a lukewarm bath. nothing to hot but just something to raise your temp a bit?



ya water actually sucks body heat OUT, thats why we sweat. But i bet if i did take a hot bath for a little, like a jacuzzi or something, it would help. thanks.




Here is the complete context.  I wasn't trying to argue with you.  I was only explaining the physics behind why sweat cools you down, but a warm bath warms you up.  After reading the post I quoted above, I concluded that you didn't understand the physics of heat transfer, and that you might be interested in learning.  Obviously you are crabby, and do not care...



this is the dumbest shit ever dude... you just want to talk.. "the physics behind why sweat cools you down" is 100% irrelevant to this thread... and how can you argue getting into a bath that is no higher than your body temp at the starting point is a good idea. how. (again i was never talking about a warm/hot bath, JUST A LUKEWARM ONE)

and for the record... it isnt the act of evaporation that cools you down you retard monkey.. by this logic when people wipe sweat from their face, it renders it completely useless.. no, it just didnt absorb as much heat as it potentially could have..

when my body temp is at 95.8 i dont think i want to put myself in a situation where i could make it lower.. but that's just me. stabilized @98.5 now with my method, thanks :smile:




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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Happy2fly]
    #14002315 - 02/21/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the fact that evap does suck body heat out doesnt mean its the only way...... u trying to say water wont suck body heat out or what? maybe i didnt fully explain the process of how sweat lowers our body temp (not that it matters what so fucking ever) but i definitely said step one(or at least a step b4 evap u technical bastard, dont use technicalities to distract from the point of the arguement.. its unbecoming) AND I ONLY BROUGHT IT UP TO EXPLAIN WHY I WOULDNT TAKE A LUKEWARM BATH... IN THESE CONTEXTS MY ANALOGY IS FINE... I DONT NEED THE ENTIRE SCIENCE BEHIND IT... GET A LIFE!

edit: and btw i have an old family friend who is a doctor who sees me for free whenever i get sick. Since his office is closed today he told me to wait til tomorrow, stay warm/drink hot liquids, and call him if it gets any lower.
im not going to a hospital i cant afford it


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
    #14002381 - 02/21/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

now im testing @ 100.1 :S
just bought this thermometer today and i do feel pretty weird so i think its accurate.. really light headed.. im getting looked at asap


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
    #14002387 - 02/21/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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now im testing @ 100.1 :S
just bought this thermometer today and i do feel pretty weird so i think its accurate.. really light headed.. im getting looked at asap



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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn] * 1
    #14002392 - 02/21/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe you're just cold blooded? Go bask under a heat lamp :cool:


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: DrugsAreFunn]
    #14002454 - 02/21/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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the fact that evap does suck body heat out doesnt mean its the only way...... u trying to say water wont suck body heat out or what? maybe i didnt fully explain the process of how sweat lowers our body temp (not that it matters what so fucking ever) but i definitely said step one(or at least a step b4 evap u technical bastard, dont use technicalities to distract from the point of the arguement.. its unbecoming.




I apologize for offering some information about heat transfer that you found offensive.  My intention was to inform, but you only want to argue. You are free to remain ignorant to the wonders of physics if you want to...

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DrugsAreFunn said:AND I ONLY BROUGHT IT UP TO EXPLAIN WHY I WOULDNT TAKE A LUKEWARM BATH... IN THESE CONTEXTS MY ANALOGY IS FINE... I DONT NEED THE ENTIRE SCIENCE BEHIND IT... GET A LIFE!




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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Happy2fly]
    #14002501 - 02/21/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I would consider a 98.6F bath to be lukewarm, since that is your ideal body temperature.  A hot tub can be set as hot as 110F, and that is very comfortable for many people.  As I said earlier, the term lukewarm does not actually have a defined temperature.  It's not cold, but it's not hot.




98.6 is certainly a hot bath. The temperature of your epidermis is not the same as your internal temperature.
Luke warm is low-mid 80's Fahrenheit.
Low 90's is hot.
Anything 98+ is very hot.
105+ is hot enough to sting your skin when initially submerging.

I know this because my family has a hot tub that we heat up fairly regularly with an accurate thermometer. Put a thermometer in your bath tub and you can find out for yourself.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Happy2fly]
    #14002718 - 02/21/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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The other variable that nobody has mentioned yet is that the body creates it's own heat.  If the RP's room is 70F, and the bath is 90F, his body temperature could still rise during a bath even though heat is being sucked out from the relatively colder water, just because the water is warmer relative to the air...





Also need to consider that water is a much better conducter, so 60F water will cool you down significantly more quickly than 60F air.

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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14003013 - 02/21/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Even if it's 97, it'll only stay that way for a very short time.  Maybe 5 minutes until it's 95.




The rate that the water temperature changes depends on the geometry of the tub and the air temperature outside of the bath.  If the temperature of the air in the bathroom is at 97F, then the temperature of the bathwater will not change.  If the surface area of the bath is small compared to the volume of the bath, the heat will escape at a slower rate than if the surface area was large compared to the volume.  Not that any of that matters in this case.  I agree with you that the RP would benefit from a hot bath much more than he would from a lukewarm bath.



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Happy2fly said:
I would consider a 98.6F bath to be lukewarm, since that is your ideal body temperature.  A hot tub can be set as hot as 110F, and that is very comfortable for many people.  As I said earlier, the term lukewarm does not actually have a defined temperature.  It's not cold, but it's not hot.




98.6 is certainly a hot bath. The temperature of your epidermis is not the same as your internal temperature.
Luke warm is low-mid 80's Fahrenheit.
Low 90's is hot.
Anything 98+ is very hot.
105+ is hot enough to sting your skin when initially submerging.

I know this because my family has a hot tub that we heat up fairly regularly with an accurate thermometer. Put a thermometer in your bath tub and you can find out for yourself.





I figured this. I mean 100 degrees air temperature is burning you up. although your epedermis experiences 100 degrees as stifling even though that is only 2 degrees higher than internal temperature.


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Re: body temp @ 96 and dropping [Re: BothHands]
    #14003022 - 02/21/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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The other variable that nobody has mentioned yet is that the body creates it's own heat.  If the RP's room is 70F, and the bath is 90F, his body temperature could still rise during a bath even though heat is being sucked out from the relatively colder water, just because the water is warmer relative to the air...





Also need to consider that water is a much better conducter, so 60F water will cool you down significantly more quickly than 60F air.

This thread is fun. :awesome:





no fucking shit. when you get in 68 degree water it sure as shit doesn't FEEL like 68 degree water. lmao wtf right. this guy goes and takes a bath at the wrong temperature at this point, it might be deadly. no kidding.


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