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Offlinen.dangerously
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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: Joolz]
    #13994230 - 02/20/11 05:20 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

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Joolz said:
We are God. We are already in heaven, in the Garden of Eden. If there was no suffering there would not be happiness. We are already perfect, but perfection does not mean without pain or suffering or saddness. Those things exist so that their lighter sides may exist.

(imo)




I don't know.. no heaven of mine would have Justin Bieber in it.

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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: n.dangerously]
    #13994235 - 02/20/11 05:26 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

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n.dangerously said:
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Joolz said:
We are God. We are already in heaven, in the Garden of Eden. If there was no suffering there would not be happiness. We are already perfect, but perfection does not mean without pain or suffering or saddness. Those things exist so that their lighter sides may exist.

(imo)




I don't know.. no heaven of mine would have Justin Bieber in it.




I agree. Its a good thing I don't live anywhere near him or have the capabilities of ever meeting him. I highly doubt I will ever see him in real life and if I do it will not phase me.


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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: Diploid]
    #13994383 - 02/20/11 07:08 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Hey what happened to Droz? :lol:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: Joolz]
    #13994665 - 02/20/11 09:18 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

If there was no suffering there would not be happiness.

Bullshit.

It's always poor people who say bullshit like "money can't buy happiness".

It's a psychological pacifier to help the weak minded deal with the cold, hard, truth that life is a daily struggle with death at the end.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: Diploid]
    #13994919 - 02/20/11 10:37 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Me struggles to the frig to get a beer and then me struggles to my garden for a spliff and then struggles back to the computer for some e-z poker fish money.

Later, I will struggle to the hot tub for a spell and then struggle to the Bahama Breeze for some coconut shrimp.

Then I will struggle to my Blue-Ray player and pop in Wall Street II and struggle over to my LaZy Boy recliner.

Life is a bitch! :kingcrankey:


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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: Diploid]
    #13994933 - 02/20/11 10:40 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Two Quotes, both favoring each side.

"It is not God that created humans, it is humans that created God."
We were so lonely in our quest for the peace and truth we created god to ensure that a good moral way of life would be established by future generations.

"Atoms and particles behave in probabilistic ways, but our brain is made up of atoms and particles... how can free will exist?"
How can God not exist? Don't you find it a little odd that there is always somebody for everyone? Or that the stars in the sky just happen to make shapes and patterns? Or that man and woman are complete opposites? How did evolution know to create opposites for reproduction?

IMO evolution and creation are one in the same.


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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: Keij]
    #13994943 - 02/20/11 10:42 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Don't you find it a little odd that there is always somebody for everyone?

What I find odd is that anyone actually believes that.:lol:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: Keij]
    #13996367 - 02/20/11 04:01 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

The patterns and shapes that the stars happen to create were decided by humans. Two stars that appear to be right next to eachother are probably millions of lightyears apart. Haven't you ever looked at the patterns in walls or sidewalks? Don't they create familiar representations of various things? It's just like seeing a bunny in a cloud, it's your brain making sense out of nonsense. Again, it most certainly isn't god.

As for reproduction, the whole point of any species evolving is to carry on. Not all creatures need a partner to procreate. Men and women are not COMPLETE opposites. We simply have the reproductive systems necessary to help carry on our DNA and continue our existence.

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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: n.dangerously]
    #13996829 - 02/20/11 05:37 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

:thumbup:

And welcome to the shroomery.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: Icelander]
    #13997834 - 02/20/11 08:35 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

Thank you. This has been one of my favorite sites since I found it.

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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: n.dangerously]
    #13999205 - 02/21/11 12:53 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

:rolleyes:
You're acting like I actually believe that shit that I wrote. I was just explaining the quotes in further detail.


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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: Keij]
    #13999303 - 02/21/11 01:34 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

This is a debate oriented forum, is it not?

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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: n.dangerously]
    #13999410 - 02/21/11 02:14 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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Diploid said:
If there was no suffering there would not be happiness.

Bullshit.

It's always poor people who say bullshit like "money can't buy happiness".

It's a psychological pacifier to help the weak minded deal with the cold, hard, truth that life is a daily struggle with death at the end.





I disagree. I definitely don't need to sit here and say "money can't buy happiness, money can't buy happiness, I'm happy" to be happy. I truly am happy, and I work a pretty dead-end job that makes enough money to give me an apartment and keep me high all day.


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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: Joolz]
    #13999961 - 02/21/11 08:34 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

So you can honestly say you don't find my thread atleast thought provoking?


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Re: The creator or the creation? [Re: n.dangerously]
    #14000070 - 02/21/11 09:09 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

Careful, I got addicted.


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